Survivor 25: Philippines **Possible Spoilers**

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I was hoping Denise would win but it does seem like Malcolm was robbed! I know the show is heavily edited but I laughed when Malcolm started talking about appeasement and told Denise to stop nodding. I never noticed how much she did that until he mentioned it!

I was born to be a pessimist. My blood type is B Negative.
I couldn't believe Penner threw Lisa "under the bus" by telling everyone she was a child star. I am amazed at the people who go on this show and then think anyone with any amount of money shouldn't win. Penner made a bad move when he didn't align for the final four with Lisa and Skupin and was taking his bitterness out at that moment. When it got to the final 3, I wasn't sure which one should win. They all were deserving. Skupin proved he was a force to be reckoned with at challenges, and they all seemed like nice likable people.

I am always amazed that the jury, being such big Survivor fans they say they are, don't give the final 2 or 3 credit. Everyone gets stabbed in the back so to speak. It's the name of the game. . . vote off your opponents. You can't keep all your promises. The numbers just won't allow it.

Jeff was on the jury because he worried more about voting Penner off than he did about keeping himself in the game. Pete was there because he ignored Lisa when she came to him with the opportunity to get rid of Malcolm. Penner didn't join the final four alliance. Artis stayed true to an alliance that was crumbling instead of making a move for himself. Abi's days were numbered because of her personality. I wouldn't have wanted to take Malcolm to the final with me either. He was just too big of a threat. The only one who was, in my mind, a real casualty of the game was Carter. He was a nice guy who was just too much of a physical threat.
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I was so surprised - everyone seemed to really like Lisa!! I thought it would be hands-down Denise but people seemed really mad at her (maybe we missed a lot of in-camp footage). And Malcolm - really? you got mad at Denise when you had planned to vote her out anyway?

Abi's face just annoyed me, so ... just grumpy faced

Denise does nod a lot but she's a therapist, I expect that in a therapist LOL

I am wondering Penner's motivation for telling on Lisa - it was a cruddy thing to do - for whatever reason he wanted to ensure she didn't win

and Skupin - his even pondering taking Malcolm was beyond me. I was shocked to hear him go on about how he really felt he could beat Malcolm in the finals. I think he was shocked when he sat there in the final three and people weren't overly impressed with him.

I haven't watched the reunion portion yet so don't know if I have anything additional to add, but pretty sure I will LOL

Overall I'm glad how it all played out
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I saw the reunion show and I actually LIKED Abi... she seemed to get how awful she was to deal with - really made me laugh that she was able to poke fun at herself and say she had a lot of work to do on herself.

And, I say it every season "that was my last season of watching"
then Jeff had to go and say "Fans vs Favorites" and now I want to know which favorites are on it!! (but if Russell Hantz is on, I don't think I can stomach watching it)
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I saw the reunion show and I actually LIKED Abi... she seemed to get how awful she was to deal with - really made me laugh that she was able to poke fun at herself and say she had a lot of work to do on herself.

And, I say it every season "that was my last season of watching"
then Jeff had to go and say "Fans vs Favorites" and now I want to know which favorites are on it!! (but if Russell Hantz is on, I don't think I can stomach watching it)
Originally Posted by PerriP
I am curious too as to who they are bringing back. I wonder if Malcolm might not be one of them. They had Russell Hantz do back-to-back seasons, and Jeff seemed very interested when he asked Malcolm if he would do it again.
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I googled and found a "spoiler" list of who is going to be on.
don't want to spoil here though, but if you google it, you will find it
of course, no guarantee that list is correct, but still interesting

and again I say if Russell Hantz is going to be on I don't think I could watch, that man is really crazy
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I googled and found a "spoiler" list of who is going to be on.
don't want to spoil here though, but if you google it, you will find it
of course, no guarantee that list is correct, but still interesting

and again I say if Russell Hantz is going to be on I don't think I could watch, that man is really crazy
Originally Posted by PerriP
At your suggestion I googled this. A couple I am interested in seeing return. Have to admit a few of them I don't remember. Maybe I will once I see them in action.
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I was rooting for Denise most of the season, but in the end I wanted Malcolm to win. I want Malcolm back for another season. He was all sorts of awesome. I think he actually looked more handsome on the island.

And what was up with that kiss? That was staged, right? Dawson kissed Jeff right on the mouth!
I DVRd the finale and therefore missed the last half hour of it.

Who won the 100k?

Did they ask Penner why he gave Lisa away about being a child star?? I was so mad when he did that...so NOT his place!!
I DVRd the finale and therefore missed the last half hour of it.

Who won the 100k?
Originally Posted by texascurly
Lisa.
never in a million years would i have thought malcolm would lose. i did not predict that at all!!!!!!!!!!!

also, on what planet of delusion was skupin on, what world of denial was he living in, what dream of a thousand dreams was skupin having when he actually had the audacity to think to believe that he was on the same level athletically with malcolm??

i was stunned listening to him ponder about going head to head with an equal, really, you are equal with malcolm, how, where????
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never in a million years would i have thought malcolm would lose. i did not predict that at all!!!!!!!!!!!

also, on what planet of delusion was skupin on, what world of denial was he living in, what dream of a thousand dreams was skupin having when he actually had the audacity to think to believe that he was on the same level athletically with malcolm??

i was stunned listening to him ponder about going head to head with an equal, really, you are equal with malcolm, how, where????
Originally Posted by frau
I swear, I think the producers influence the contestants to mislead us. They wanted us to think Skupin might bring Malcolm. They wanted to up the anticipation of "will he or won't he?" Notice nothing about tribal council is EVER predictable? They always have us guessing until the very end.
i was surprised to hear that even if both malcolm and denise made it to the final that he still wouldn't have won.

i wonder why? envy?
That surprised me too Frau.

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I knew that they were going to vote Malcolm off as soon as he lost the challenge.
i just read this: 'Survivor: Philippines' Winner Denise Stapley Reveals Plans for $1 Million Prize; Final 4 Spill Finale Secrets - Hollywood Reporter

snippets I found interesting:

How did the final vote break down?
According to the finalists, Denise received six of the eight jury votes, while Skupin and Lisa each received one.

- only one vote each!

Is there anything Skupin learned from his second time in the game?
For starters, he says he thought that, of the final seven players, Denise had the least chance of winning. "I looked at her game, and I watched how she coasted throughout, and it turns out she just made less enemies. The part of the game I underestimated was Ponderosa [where the jury members stay while the game is still in progress]. It's part of the game you can't control. ... You could have seven people that love you to death, and one person that still wants to play gets over there and spoils the whole thing. I'm not saying that's what happened, because the game doesn't lie. ... But an hour later, the vote could change. With that vote, at that particular time, Denise had the least amount of enemies. ... I respect the heck out of her. I have no regrets. I think I played the heck out of it."

... apparently his delusion about being able to beat Malcolm wasn't isolated- "she coasted throughout"??? she WORKED to make the least amount of enemies - it's how you WIN.
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Some strong players forget the value of the social game.

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Denise played an excellent social game, but she was also a force in the challenges from the very beginning.

She also gave the best speech at the final TC.
I haven't watched this season but I saw .2 seconds at my parents' house and I said, OMG, that's Blair Warner! People had to be TOLD she was a child star? Have these people ALWAYS lived in an island with no electricity?
I haven't watched this season but I saw .2 seconds at my parents' house and I said, OMG, that's Blair Warner! People had to be TOLD she was a child star? Have these people ALWAYS lived in an island with no electricity?
Originally Posted by CGNYC
You're hilarious! But yeah, I was surprised none of the older contestants knew. Artis? Jeff? Denise?

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