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What brand of Mag glycinate do you take?

I've been taking Magnesium Malate for hormonal migraine and fibromyalgia spells. It's not seeming to help that much but I may not be taking enough of it either...probably averaging out at 650 mg/day.
I use KAL brand for mag glycinate.

I didnt notice a big help until I was taking at least 600mg for while but I do better at 1000mg a day and using the mag oil on painful areas. We burn off magnesium with meds, stress, insomnia, sugar, etc so it's likely not enough. But there are so many factors to fibro. I have a facebook group if you are interested. Lots of ways to treat fibro. Dr Teitelbaum's book From Fatigued to Fantastic was a life changer for me.

Thanks for the info!

I take Source Natural's Mag Malate as well. I'll up it and try the glycinate and see what happens. I'll check out that book too.

CL- Personally I started taking Magnesium Malate specifically for fibromyalgia. It's thought that people with it both lack magnesium and could benefit from more malic acid (not a lot of food sources of it to my understanding...green apples, green grapes, and a smattering of other things). I did notice that many reviewers of it wound up taking A LOT of it before they noticed relief. I'm thinking that may be because it's still not the best form for absorption, though it's a little better than the forms you would find in a basic grocery store vitamin aisle.
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What brand of Mag glycinate do you take?

I've been taking Magnesium Malate for hormonal migraine and fibromyalgia spells. It's not seeming to help that much but I may not be taking enough of it either...probably averaging out at 650 mg/day.
I use KAL brand for mag glycinate.

I didnt notice a big help until I was taking at least 600mg for while but I do better at 1000mg a day and using the mag oil on painful areas. We burn off magnesium with meds, stress, insomnia, sugar, etc so it's likely not enough. But there are so many factors to fibro. I have a facebook group if you are interested. Lots of ways to treat fibro. Dr Teitelbaum's book From Fatigued to Fantastic was a life changer for me.

Thanks for the info!

I take Source Natural's Mag Malate as well. I'll up it and try the glycinate and see what happens. I'll check out that book too.

CL- Personally I started taking Magnesium Malate specifically for fibromyalgia. It's thought that people with it both lack magnesium and could benefit from more malic acid (not a lot of food sources of it to my understanding...green apples, green grapes, and a smattering of other things). I did notice that many reviewers of it wound up taking A LOT of it before they noticed relief. I'm thinking that may be because it's still not the best form for absorption, though it's a little better than the forms you would find in a basic grocery store vitamin aisle.
Has a lot to do with rate you use up mag too. If there's not enough to go around, you wont notice the fibro benefits. Since it can take months to restore your levels via oral mag, using mag oil in addition to mag malate could be extremely beneficial.

It's not that it's not absorbable. Mag malate is a far superior choice than the mag oxide sold at the drugstore. Just that arent seeing the benefits yet. http://drcarolyndean.com/2012/10/whe...akes-me-worse/

Be sure to check your serving size too. One bottle of mine requires 6 tablets to equal around 400mg and my current bottle requires 3 tablets. Sneaky labeling.
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I take Kal magnesium glycinate and Source Naturals magnesium malate.
Sorry for all the questions, but why the need for 2 different kinds?
Also, I am hypothyroid, but I don't think that should matter.
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I'm hypo also. You need to take the mag supplement separately from the thyroid med. 3-4 hrs is recommended. Mag is best absorbed in small doses thru out the day so I take some morning noon and night.

I use 2 types because the mag is bound to a different chemical in each type. Mag glycinate is chelated with the amino acid glycine. This makes it highly absorbable. Great for insomnia, anxiety, depression, reduction in substance p (causes pain) etc.
Mag malate is combined with malic acid. Malic acid is good for muscle pain and energy production. I could just use the malate but I have a lot of muscle spasms and serious insomnia so the glycinate is more helpful for that. It's a great combo along with the mag oil.
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Has a lot to do with rate you use up mag too. If there's not enough to go around, you wont notice the fibro benefits. Since it can take months to restore your levels via oral mag, using mag oil in addition to mag malate could be extremely beneficial.

It's not that it's not absorbable. Mag malate is a far superior choice than the mag oxide sold at the drugstore. Just that arent seeing the benefits yet. When Magnesium Makes Me Worse | Dr Carolyn Dean MD ND

Be sure to check your serving size too. One bottle of mine requires 6 tablets to equal around 400mg and my current bottle requires 3 tablets. Sneaky labeling.
It sounds like we may have the same Source Naturals Mag Malate bottle. I have the 360 tablet, 1250 mg overall one.

Now I'm looking at it closer though (did notice the suggested use before) and notice that for that serving size (3 tablets), it indicates in the nutrient table that you're getting 425 mg of Magnesium alone.

425/3 = ~142 mg.

So if I work up to 5 tablets daily, that will ultimately be 710 mg.

I had been thinking 5/day is the upper most limit of what's reasonable, but it looks like it's more just right in there. Definitely good to know.
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My mom gets serious migraines everyday but nothing helps because it's caused by prescribed pills that she has to take (Aggrenox).
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Be sure to check your serving size too. One bottle of mine requires 6 tablets to equal around 400mg and my current bottle requires 3 tablets. Sneaky labeling.
It sounds like we may have the same Source Naturals Mag Malate bottle. I have the 360 tablet, 1250 mg overall one.

Now I'm looking at it closer though (did notice the suggested use before) and notice that for that serving size (3 tablets), it indicates in the nutrient table that you're getting 425 mg of Magnesium alone.

425/3 = ~142 mg.

So if I work up to 5 tablets daily, that will ultimately be 710 mg.

I had been thinking 5/day is the upper most limit of what's reasonable, but it looks like it's more just right in there. Definitely good to know.[/QUOTE]

Yup we have the same one. Your bowels will be your guide. If it's too much just cut back and work back up slowly. It's very very difficult to get too much mag because your bowels let you know what you can tolerate... Tho that doesnt mean it's too much overall. Max daily dose is around 1500mg

A great site for fibro info is vitality101.com This dr has changed my life. If I stay on all my meds and supplements, I'm almost normal. Treating my adrenal glands has been the biggest improvement for me yet most drs dont consider adrenal fatigue to be legit so patients suffer.
I had horrible hypoglycemia, tachycardia, dizziness, blood pressure drop when I stood up, etc. All resolved since treating my adrenals. Just know there is a lot to try and no reason to suffer.
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So what do you recommend for the mag oil? Can I use it on feet/legs and get the benefits? I can't use oils on my body or I break out with cystic acne.
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So what do you recommend for the mag oil? Can I use it on feet/legs and get the benefits? I can't use oils on my body or I break out with cystic acne.
Mag oil isnt really oil. It's water and mag chloride flakes melted... Has an oily appearance but no oil involved. You can use it anywhere and once it dries you can wipe it off and apply lotion or whatever since The mag is only absorbed when it's moist. You can do foot soaks too.

I bought my first bottle of mag oil but make my own now. I bought 2+ lbs on amazon for 16$ and no shipping.
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So what do you recommend for the mag oil? Can I use it on feet/legs and get the benefits? I can't use oils on my body or I break out with cystic acne.
Mag oil isnt really oil. It's water and mag chloride flakes melted... Has an oily appearance but no oil involved. You can use it anywhere and once it dries you can wipe it off and apply lotion or whatever since The mag is only absorbed when it's moist. You can do foot soaks too.

I bought my first bottle of mag oil but make my own now. I bought 2+ lbs on amazon for 16$ and no shipping.
Thanks! So if I use the mag oil, I bypass GI problems? That way I can get more mag by taking tabs and soaking my feet.
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I get chronic migraines that not even rx meds can cure. But I use excedrin migraine and it knocks the migraine right out.

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I just stopped at the Vitamin Shoppe and bought:
  • Source Naturals Magnesium Malate 1250 mg (for 3 tabs)
  • KAL Magnesium Glycinate 400 mg (for 2 tabs)
  • Reserveage Organics Resveratrol 250 mg (for weight, heart, cholesterol, etc)
So should I only take one of the mags to start and adjust? I was going to start with the mag malate, but each tab would be @400. Would that be too much?
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I just stopped at the Vitamin Shoppe and bought:
  • Source Naturals Magnesium Malate 1250 mg (for 3 tabs)
  • KAL Magnesium Glycinate 400 mg (for 2 tabs)
  • Reserveage Organics Resveratrol 250 mg (for weight, heart, cholesterol, etc)
So should I only take one of the mags to start and adjust? I was going to start with the mag malate, but each tab would be @400. Would that be too much?
Good choices Each tab isnt 400. That tablet would be too big to swallow. lol. If you look at the serving size then the amount of magnesium and divide that, you'll get the amount. I'm not sure what the 1250mg refers to. For the malate you need 3 tablets to get 425mg magnesium.
I like to start slow- around 200mg morning and night. My dr suggests starting at 400mg twice a day but that killed my stomach which can be sensitive. Malate is best taken in the morning and glycinate at night.
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I just stopped at the Vitamin Shoppe and bought:
  • Source Naturals Magnesium Malate 1250 mg (for 3 tabs)
  • KAL Magnesium Glycinate 400 mg (for 2 tabs)
  • Reserveage Organics Resveratrol 250 mg (for weight, heart, cholesterol, etc)
So should I only take one of the mags to start and adjust? I was going to start with the mag malate, but each tab would be @400. Would that be too much?
Good choices Each tab isnt 400. That tablet would be too big to swallow. lol. If you look at the serving size then the amount of magnesium and divide that, you'll get the amount. I'm not sure what the 1250mg refers to. For the malate you need 3 tablets to get 425mg magnesium.
I like to start slow- around 200mg morning and night. My dr suggests starting at 400mg twice a day but that killed my stomach which can be sensitive. Malate is best taken in the morning and glycinate at night.
You're right, I wonder where they get the 1250mg malate when the serving of 3 tabs = 425. So I should be OK to take one in the AM, and 1 glycinate tab (=200mg) in the PM to start, right?
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I just stopped at the Vitamin Shoppe and bought:
  • Source Naturals Magnesium Malate 1250 mg (for 3 tabs)
  • KAL Magnesium Glycinate 400 mg (for 2 tabs)
  • Reserveage Organics Resveratrol 250 mg (for weight, heart, cholesterol, etc)
So should I only take one of the mags to start and adjust? I was going to start with the mag malate, but each tab would be @400. Would that be too much?
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I just stopped at the Vitamin Shoppe and bought:
  • Source Naturals Magnesium Malate 1250 mg (for 3 tabs)
  • KAL Magnesium Glycinate 400 mg (for 2 tabs)
  • Reserveage Organics Resveratrol 250 mg (for weight, heart, cholesterol, etc)
So should I only take one of the mags to start and adjust? I was going to start with the mag malate, but each tab would be @400. Would that be too much?
Good choices Each tab isnt 400. That tablet would be too big to swallow. lol. If you look at the serving size then the amount of magnesium and divide that, you'll get the amount. I'm not sure what the 1250mg refers to. For the malate you need 3 tablets to get 425mg magnesium.
I like to start slow- around 200mg morning and night. My dr suggests starting at 400mg twice a day but that killed my stomach which can be sensitive. Malate is best taken in the morning and glycinate at night.
You're right, I wonder where they get the 1250mg malate when the serving of 3 tabs = 425. So I should be OK to take one in the AM, and 1 glycinate tab (=200mg) in the PM to start, right?
Yes 1 of each am/pm is a good starting place. You can always cut them in half if needed. Or add another after a few days. I'm going to email vitacost and ask about the 1250mg I'm curious.
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Suck it! I can only seem to find the magnesium oxide! Imma gonna have to get down and dirty tomorrow...

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Do you have a vitamin shoppe? If not, order online from them.

I have another migraine today. I "borrowed" a Fioricet and tried that. It seemed to work the same as my Midrin; I was able to lie down for an hour or so, it didn't make me (more) nauseous or dizzy. I called the doctor's and asked for an rx in case the Imitrex doesnt work. I couldn't take the Imitrex because it hit me quickly and it was too late.

I also started taking the mag tonight, one glycinate tab.
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Do you have a vitamin shoppe? If not, order online from them.

I have another migraine today. I "borrowed" a Fioricet and tried that. It seemed to work the same as my Midrin; I was able to lie down for an hour or so, it didn't make me (more) nauseous or dizzy. I called the doctor's and asked for an rx in case the Imitrex doesnt work. I couldn't take the Imitrex because it hit me quickly and it was too late.

I also started taking the mag tonight, one glycinate tab.
Hooray! I'm glad the Fioricet seemed to work for you. Does the Imitrex not work for you when you actually have a migraine? I usually wake up with them and take one and it will take care of it if I lay back down for a bit longer to let it get into my system. If the migraine isn't better in 2 hours, I can take another Imitrex with a maximum of 4 per day.

I took myself off on a jaunt to a local health food store. There's only one in the valley and it has my flavored Stevia drops, which I've been too poor to purchase for like, ever...I finally had money and needed the magnesium and found both at this store. It was like an act of GD to find them, though. Because, you know, it wouldn't make sense at ALL to put two magnesium supplements by each other or anything. And can I just say holy majoly these pills are massive! Now I'm going to order me some magnesium oil online because frankly, I don't want to try to find it on the ground.
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Hooray! I'm glad the Fioricet seemed to work for you. Does the Imitrex not work for you when you actually have a migraine? I usually wake up with them and take one and it will take care of it if I lay back down for a bit longer to let it get into my system. If the migraine isn't better in 2 hours, I can take another Imitrex with a maximum of 4 per day.

I took myself off on a jaunt to a local health food store. There's only one in the valley and it has my flavored Stevia drops, which I've been too poor to purchase for like, ever...I finally had money and needed the magnesium and found both at this store. It was like an act of GD to find them, though. Because, you know, it wouldn't make sense at ALL to put two magnesium supplements by each other or anything. And can I just say holy majoly these pills are massive! Now I'm going to order me some magnesium oil online because frankly, I don't want to try to find it on the ground.
I haven't tried an Imitrex yet, I will have to next time it really hits me. But I had heard it doesn't help if you don't take it right away, so I thought I'd try the Fioricet instead today. They only gave me 9 Imitrex pills, they are 100mg and it says I can take one at the onset then one more 2 hours later, max 2 in 24 hrs.
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