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Old 11-21-2012, 04:30 PM   #1
 
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Default OMG! Big Brother is tracking you - at school!



Texan schoolgirl expelled for refusing to wear RFID tag ? The Register

how is this even legal????
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Old 11-21-2012, 04:39 PM   #2
 
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I found this paragraph disturbing.....

"What's happening now is going to spread across the country," Whitehead said. "If you can start early in life getting people accustomed to living in surveillance society then in future it'll be a lot easier to roll these things out to the larger populace."
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Old 11-22-2012, 11:49 AM   #3
 
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I don't see the big deal about wearing an ID tag. It's not like it's being implanted into the students' bodies. You need an ID tag to do a lot of things. I wonder if that family disavows credit cards too.
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ID /= radio transmitted tracking device. And a lot of people don't use credit/debit or club cards for privacy reasons. It's not really all that strange of a viewpoint.
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Old 11-22-2012, 05:18 PM   #5
 
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Yeah I know; it's radio frequency identification.
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What kind of things do you need an tracking ID tag for? Seems excessive to me.

My only experience with rfid is that my 7 year old kid wears one in ski school so they don't lose him on the mountain. I don't think teenagers should be tracked by their school. Their parents? Maybe. That's a family decision.
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Old 11-22-2012, 05:30 PM   #7
 
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The article said they're trying to reduce truancy. If truancy (and school violence) are issues, then this seems like not too bad a solution.
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Solution to truancy isn't big brother type tracking. At all. It doesn't get at the reason behind why people are skipping.

Another example of putting a bandaid on a much more complex problem.
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Much more complex, yes, and more expensive to address.

We know why kids skip: school is boring and they'd rather hang with friends. Bullying and difficulty in learning are other reasons but not as much. School won't excite most kids unless typical teaching models are totally changed. And hanging with friends, um, that's hard to compete with.

If the bandaid works use it.
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lol at the mark of the beast.
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Old 11-23-2012, 12:08 AM   #11
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To me the moral/long-term cost of such a device is too high. Not worth it. I'd commend my child for refusing to wear it and probably do what I could to leave the district.
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What moral/long term cost?^^
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Tracking devices is not something I support, and the idea of becoming complacent towards it is terrifying.

The ideology behind that kind of technology is not something I am okay with.

'Bandaid' solutions end up being more costly in the long-run. And there are a million reasons why kids skip. The typical "school is boring" phase that many kids explore is not really the problem. It's the other kinds that are more complex that need to be dealt with head on.
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That's kinda vague...According to a study done, the major reasons for skipping are the ones named above. But that's ok; we disagree and we can leave it at that.
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As a teacher in a program with a few skippers the "school is boring" excuse is just a band aid reason for students who can't express their issues. Often things are going on in school, home, personally that they don't feel they can handle, then the schoolwork mounts up, and they feel overwhelmed and the cycle starts again. Many have to help their families survive and many are falling into bad cycles of easy money to be had elsewhere (drugs) vs. the attentions that are required for school. Sometimes they are dealing with mental issues that they can't get a handle on (depression, et al).

Some the system does fail, admittedly but making them carry a tracking card isn't fixing anything. Who is hunting them down? Who is doing something with the data? Do they actually increase attendance? and if they do what are the behavior incidents that arise because their needs aren't being met in the school because money was spent on ID cards.
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