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12-27-2012, 09:51 AM
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Um I most certainly did not.
However, this question references an "ex." To me, that implies an ex-boyfriend.
I would consider somebody an actual "boyfriend" if I had a long-term, exclusive, relationship with them. And if I was in love with them. So yes, in these scenarios, sex was involved.
I certainly don't consider all the many randos I dated for a month or 2 an "ex." Do most people?
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12-27-2012, 09:55 AM
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Join Date: May 2003
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My SO & I see it as more of respecting each other than not trusting each other. That's just the way we feel. No offense to anyone else who feels differently.
Goldy, I hope you don't think I was insinuating that you have slept with everyone you dated. I wasn't and I wouldn't have a problem with my SO being friends with someone he only dated for a while with no sex involved.
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12-27-2012, 09:56 AM
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Join Date: Jul 2001
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I don't think so, but current bf told me he wouldnt be comfortable with me keeping touch with those short term guys either. I feel the same way and was so relieved that he did too. I think it's cool that other people are okay with it and wish I could be sometimes but I'm not and I'm okay with that. Somethings you realize about yourself that are just not going to change.
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12-27-2012, 10:02 AM
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Join Date: Dec 2007
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It's not fundamentally different. As I already said, I met up with him under the impression that she was in the know. When we got there, about an hour in is when I realized she didn't (she travels for work and wasn't in town). I did call him on it. I didn't come here to ask if it's okay that he did that. Again, as I said, he did this to me and it was a problem in our relationship.
That said, I never gave him a reason to lie about it. I never took issue with them having a friendship, he just chose to lie about it. In this case, nothing was hidden when I posed the question so no, I don't think it's unreasonable. And as bad as it sounds, she shouldn't have an issue with it anyways, and if she's gonna be a B about nothing, then too bad, so sad if he's gonna come meet me for coffee or lunch or whatever.
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12-27-2012, 10:04 AM
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Join Date: Dec 2007
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I didn't ask that question. So read the thread, and the OP, then come back and join the conversation of you feel it's necessary.
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12-27-2012, 10:24 AM
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Join Date: Jul 2001
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Actually I was just responding to this and the coffee sneaking situation. Either way, it's a newsgroup and I posted my opinion on something that was posted in this conversation(wether you asked or not)  .
Anyways, I'm sorry you're so offended by my comment and opinion. You can just ignore it, it's really not that serious.
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12-27-2012, 10:48 AM
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Join Date: Dec 2007
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I was a bit, yea. I'm not ignorant enough to believe that is okay, and I said that twice. I didn't ask, yet you called me ignorant over something I am not ignorant about.
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12-28-2012, 02:55 AM
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Join Date: Nov 2004
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Narnia, it seems you've asked a simple question, and gotten some pretty simple answers.
Then you added some detail that made the situation seem not so simple.
I'm OK with my SO meeting up with an ex. But how can I be OK with something I know nothing about? I cannot.
This thread is starting to feel like a bait and switch!
If you didn't want us to consider the GF's POV in this particular situation, you should have left out how he deceived her.
If you didn't want us to consider his past with you, you should have left out that bit.
So basically, you could have just stuck with your OP and left it at that.
Basically, if you mention stuff, we're going to comment on it. You know how it works.
Your response to me gave me pause. Are you sure you don't feel some guilt here? You seem highly reactive to fairly innocuous posts about this situation. You seem defensive, which is confusing because you keep insisting your conscience is clear. You insist you support their relationship, then you insinuate the GF can go kick rocks for all you care. You seem conflicted.
You probably don't like me now, but oh well. This is what I'm seeing.
Last edited by wild~hair; 12-28-2012 at 02:58 AM.
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12-28-2012, 07:52 AM
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Join Date: Jun 2005
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I don't think she baited and switched bc the the ex's new gf had an objection to their friendship long before the ex snuck out to meet her for coffee.
The secret coffee mtg was a nonissue when the gf objected. (And the question is about the general objection to the friendship.)
Narnia wasn't aware the ex was going to sneak out and said she expressed her disapproval of the sneaking both to him and to us.
But then she is called ignorant and criticized for wanting to remain on friendly terms w/ the guy...I don't think narnia is the one getting defensive. (I think it's just a touchy issue for some ppl.)
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Last edited by spiderlashes5000; 12-28-2012 at 07:56 AM.
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12-28-2012, 09:58 AM
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Join Date: Jul 2001
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To be clear I wasn't criticizing. Who cares what the gf thinks unless you want to respect the relationship and/or the gf. She doesn't have a responsibility to do so, it's his problem, not hers. She does seem to be getting defensive about this. We all do stuff that others might not do, so what.
Most people here have said they have no issue if the bf is friendly with exes, but I have met many that feel the way I do and it's not that weird. I do think it's ignorant(which is not such a bad word geez) to think that one can always be friends with the ex and there will be no issues. It's not really a foreign concept.
Bottom line is if it's so important to be friends with this dude, then go ahead. Gf doesn't like it, that's life. He'll have to deal with the consequences. Either way it probably won't last long.
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12-28-2012, 11:07 AM
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Join Date: Dec 2007
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I've said over and over in every reply that I DID NOT KNOW AT THE TIME I ASKED THE QUESTION. I don't need people to tell me that sneaking around for coffee is wrong.
Do I feel guilty? No, not at all. Not my problem. I'm single. I know what he's like and that's why I'm not with him - she will have to learn that lesson. But that doesn't mean I have disdain for her. I wish she would be okay with it, sure, but if she's not, they will have to deal with that. Like I said I won't be seeing him anymore so it's no longer relevant. I support them being together because I don't have my own vendetta going on here, but sure, she can go "kick rocks" and I wouldn't care about that either. In fact, it's probably to her benefit to do so!
Thanks spiderlashes, that is what I'm trying to say.
Every time I start a personal thread I feel like I have to defend myself, yea. I do know how it works and every time, I find myself wondering okay is what I'm writing not getting read here? The responses almost always deviate from the original question or issue. In this case, I don't recall ever asking if it was okay to sneak off with an ex for coffee and not tell the GF. So what am I missing..
I don't dislike you wildhair, I can separate the issues!
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12-28-2012, 11:20 AM
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Agreed. That's how it is here on nc.com. I was just discussing this with someone else recently.
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12-28-2012, 12:07 PM
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Join Date: May 2008
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+1 especially to #2. I don't get women sometimes. The man is the one who betrayed your trust not the woman who he cheated with whom you never ever met. Maybe if the other woman was one of your close friends.
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12-28-2012, 12:15 PM
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Yes. I've witnessed personal threads become attacks on the OP especially when it comes to men and relationships. Best to be prepared for an onslaught and many people jump to conclusions.
To the OP I think that he needs to stop sneaking. I mean really. If he has nothing to hide (and its clear that he doesn't at least from your end) why is he sneaking?
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12-28-2012, 12:24 PM
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I'd say it's because he doesn't want to rock the boat with his new GF. But I don't think that's it. I think it's just his personality/character to be sneaky.
ETA: I don't know the guy, but that's how it sounds to me.
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12-28-2012, 12:26 PM
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#56
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Join Date: Jun 2005
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Men, relationships, weightloss, work, family, pregnancy, childbirth, childrearing, weddings, money, clothing, sex, religion, race relations, body image, shower curtains, lunch meat, plastic forks...
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12-28-2012, 12:30 PM
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#57
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Join Date: Dec 2007
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Agreed. There's some reason that he wanted to see me, and she wasn't okay with it, so he came anyways.
But it is his personality, and he did it to me, will do it to her again, and will do it to the next girl if there is a next girl.
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12-28-2012, 12:31 PM
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#58
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Join Date: Jul 2001
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Because his current gf doesn't like it. And yes he doesn't want to rock the boat with her by just telling her that's the way it's going to be. Also it's probably not a totally innocent thing on his part(ie, theres always some attraction from the male with male/female friendship although most women refuse to believe this for whatever reason).
Last edited by Josephine; 12-28-2012 at 12:35 PM.
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12-28-2012, 12:32 PM
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Join Date: Jul 2008
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Don't forget sandwiches (Crustables) and cars (PT cruisers).
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12-28-2012, 12:40 PM
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Join Date: Jul 2001
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Sorry I wasn't clear, sometimes I assume some things are understood. I know you know that it's not right to be sneaking off. I was referring to the overall situation. The fact that he did sneak off means that in this case he shouldn't be friends with an ex if that's what it would have to come to. Or find a new gf that's okay with it. But it seems like he likes to be shady.
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