questions about pain meds and drug tests

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Thanks everyone for the info and the emotional support. On top of the current foot trauma, I have arthritis and fibromyalgia. In the e-booklet I read where the doctor talks about pain isn't just pain, but it is something that affects the rest of your health, your life, and your longevity. He even mentioned that long-term pain can lead to thoughts of suicide. Mine mental state has never strayed that far, but when I am having a flare-up, I do get really depressed with it sometimes. My family, especially my husband, are very supportive and never dismissive of my feelings, physically or mentally. But being overwhelmed by pain can make me feel very alone and isolated even when surrounded by those who care about and for me. Knowing that there are others "out there" who experience what I do or understand what I am going through really touches me.

You curlies are awesome!

I will continue to research and try natural alternatives for pain control. I do not want to take narcotics long-term. Anyone want to just list what they take? Here's mine:

daily multi-vitamin with pro-biotic
vit C
Vit B complex
vit D-3
vit E
magnesium (must get better kind though)
calcium
potassium
Ribose
taurine
bromelain
fish oil
flaxseed oil
borage oil
glucosamine chondroitin
evening primrose oil
ginko biloba

Good lord.
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Thanks everyone for the info and the emotional support. On top of the current foot trauma, I have arthritis and fibromyalgia. In the e-booklet I read where the doctor talks about pain isn't just pain, but it is something that affects the rest of your health, your life, and your longevity. He even mentioned that long-term pain can lead to thoughts of suicide. Mine mental state has never strayed that far, but when I am having a flare-up, I do get really depressed with it sometimes. My family, especially my husband, are very supportive and never dismissive of my feelings, physically or mentally. But being overwhelmed by pain can make me feel very alone and isolated even when surrounded by those who care about and for me. Knowing that there are others "out there" who experience what I do or understand what I am going through really touches me.

You curlies are awesome!

I will continue to research and try natural alternatives for pain control. I do not want to take narcotics long-term. Anyone want to just list what they take? Here's mine:

daily multi-vitamin with pro-biotic
vit C
Vit B complex
vit D-3
vit E
magnesium (must get better kind though)
calcium
potassium
Ribose
taurine
bromelain
fish oil
flaxseed oil
borage oil
glucosamine chondroitin
evening primrose oil
ginko biloba

Good lord.
Originally Posted by goldencurly
Is fibro the source of your pain? Eliminating Fibromyalgia Pain | Vitality 101
If so, thyroid and adrenals play an active role in pain and fatigue. If your dr said your thyroid is normal, question how he tested. If he just ran a TSH, ask what the level was. This isn't an adequate. If you're symptomatic, it should be treated regardless of what the tests show since they're so inaccurate.Lab Testing Is NOT Reliable! | Vitality 101

have you looked for underlying infections? Not many drs do.
B complex- if you have nerve pain, the you probably need an increase in B6 and methyl B12. I take a B complex and it doesn't have nearly enough B6 and B12 to help my nerve pain. especially if you're taking any prescriptions that rob the body of B vitamins. It's not stored in the body.

How are you taking the bromelain? It needs to be taken on an empty stomach 3 times a day. Otherwise it acts as a digestive aid.

definitely add magnesium malate or magnesium taurate (magnesium plus taurine) The malic acid in the mag malate is helpful for muscle pain

after doing a lot of research, I'm not a big fan of calcium supplementation. It's not needed for bone health.. magnesium and vit D are just as important. So many of our foods are fortified with calcium, that we get a lot more than we think. Calcium is best absorbed from foods and the body stores calcium so we don't need to replenish it the same way as we do magnesium. Unregulated calcium contributes to a lot of health problems including pain. If you want to supplement, you need to take twice as much magnesium as you do calcium otherwise you can't get the benefits of the magnesium because the calcium is using it all (they bind together)

The product Curamin is excellent for pain. It contains a highly absorbable form of curcumin (from turmeric), dlpa, nattokinase and boswellia. I've used it and it really good. Dr Teitelbaum recommends using a higher dose at the beginning then decreasing it as your pain is under control.

The product End Pain is also helpful... acts like a nsaid but none of the nasty long term side effects. It contains white willow, cherry extract and boswellia.
Supplements I take
Energy Revitalization System (nutrient powder)
Vit C at least 3000mg a day
Vit D 5000iu a day
magnesium glycinate 400mg at night
magnesium maate 425mg in the morning
magnesium oil
acetyl l-carnitine 1000mg a day
NAC 600mg a day
D-Ribose 10-15 grams a day
fish oil 4000 mgs a day
Curamin
probiotics
B6 250mg a day
methyl B12 5000mcg a day
astaxanthin
Ubiquinol 200mg a day
Sleep Tonight and Revitalizing Sleep Formula and I add passionflower, valerian, hops, chamomile

for adrenal support- 7 keto dhea, ashwagandha and rhodiola
Yes, I have fibromyalgia (and arthritis) so I have lots of chronic pain.

I take bromelain at night right before bed and I don't eat late, so it's as empty as my stomach will ever be. I have trouble taking things midday because I just cannot remember to. I am starting to remember to take the Ribose when I need to but I am still not great about it. I figure once I get that worked out and do it regularly, I can add other things to that schedule.

I do take extra B12, but only 1250mg on top of the B-mix. My doctor warned about taking too much B12 because too much can cause nerve damage.

I am going to look into some of the things you take that I have never heard of. Thank you so much for sharing so much info with me! Doctors tend to prescribe things but mine is very supportive of me preferring to take a natural approach, thank goodness!
Thanks everyone for the info and the emotional support. On top of the current foot trauma, I have arthritis and fibromyalgia. In the e-booklet I read where the doctor talks about pain isn't just pain, but it is something that affects the rest of your health, your life, and your longevity. He even mentioned that long-term pain can lead to thoughts of suicide. Mine mental state has never strayed that far, but when I am having a flare-up, I do get really depressed with it sometimes. My family, especially my husband, are very supportive and never dismissive of my feelings, physically or mentally. But being overwhelmed by pain can make me feel very alone and isolated even when surrounded by those who care about and for me. Knowing that there are others "out there" who experience what I do or understand what I am going through really touches me.

You curlies are awesome!

I will continue to research and try natural alternatives for pain control. I do not want to take narcotics long-term. Anyone want to just list what they take? Here's mine:

daily multi-vitamin with pro-biotic
vit C
Vit B complex
vit D-3
vit E
magnesium (must get better kind though)
calcium
potassium
Ribose
taurine
bromelain
fish oil
flaxseed oil
borage oil
glucosamine chondroitin
evening primrose oil
ginko biloba

Good lord.
Originally Posted by goldencurly
Is fibro the source of your pain? Eliminating Fibromyalgia Pain | Vitality 101
If so, thyroid and adrenals play an active role in pain and fatigue. If your dr said your thyroid is normal, question how he tested. If he just ran a TSH, ask what the level was. This isn't an adequate. If you're symptomatic, it should be treated regardless of what the tests show since they're so inaccurate.Lab Testing Is NOT Reliable! | Vitality 101

have you looked for underlying infections? Not many drs do.
B complex- if you have nerve pain, the you probably need an increase in B6 and methyl B12. I take a B complex and it doesn't have nearly enough B6 and B12 to help my nerve pain. especially if you're taking any prescriptions that rob the body of B vitamins. It's not stored in the body.

How are you taking the bromelain? It needs to be taken on an empty stomach 3 times a day. Otherwise it acts as a digestive aid.

definitely add magnesium malate or magnesium taurate (magnesium plus taurine) The malic acid in the mag malate is helpful for muscle pain

after doing a lot of research, I'm not a big fan of calcium supplementation. It's not needed for bone health.. magnesium and vit D are just as important. So many of our foods are fortified with calcium, that we get a lot more than we think. Calcium is best absorbed from foods and the body stores calcium so we don't need to replenish it the same way as we do magnesium. Unregulated calcium contributes to a lot of health problems including pain. If you want to supplement, you need to take twice as much magnesium as you do calcium otherwise you can't get the benefits of the magnesium because the calcium is using it all (they bind together)

The product Curamin is excellent for pain. It contains a highly absorbable form of curcumin (from turmeric), dlpa, nattokinase and boswellia. I've used it and it really good. Dr Teitelbaum recommends using a higher dose at the beginning then decreasing it as your pain is under control.

The product End Pain is also helpful... acts like a nsaid but none of the nasty long term side effects. It contains white willow, cherry extract and boswellia.
Originally Posted by crimsonshedemon
I was going to suggest adding malic acid but crimsonshedemon beat me to it. My husband used this brand of magnesium and malic acid to treat degenerative disk disease and it worked really well. In fact, his pain is now under control, as long as he watches his weight, so he doesn't need to take it anymore.
When are women going to face the fact that they donít know their own bodies as well as men who have heard things?

Don Langrick
Bonsai Culturist
I was going to suggest adding malic acid but crimsonshedemon beat me to it. My husband used this brand of magnesium and malic acid to treat degenerative disk disease and it worked really well. In fact, his pain is now under control, as long as he watches his weight, so he doesn't need to take it anymore.
Originally Posted by mrspoppers
Thank you!!
The systemic enzymes need to be taken more than once a day. Most say 3 times a day. I struggle with mid day dosing too. You may want to look at a better systemic enzyme and dosing it better. Initially and during injury, we need around a double dose then we can reduce the dose.
I've been reading really good things about them for fibro and chronic pain and just for overall health including cancer.
It's something I'm going to be more strict with.
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Originally Posted by mrspoppers
I was going to suggest adding malic acid but crimsonshedemon beat me to it. My husband used this brand of magnesium and malic acid to treat degenerative disk disease and it worked really well. In fact, his pain is now under control, as long as he watches his weight, so he doesn't need to take it anymore.[/QUOTE]

Look up the benefits of magnesium and you may want him to resume a product with more mag. excellent for so many areas.

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