kourtney k's unretouched post preg tummy - Page 2

murrrcat · 01-08-2013, 08:47 AM

you can prevent stretch marks with certain lotion and discipline I've learned, and this the same woman that bleached her sisters buttholes, who knows what methods she could have gone to.

I JUST wanted to remention that, because I find them gross.

luvmylocs · 01-08-2013, 09:23 AM

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Side note: when Nap85(youtuber) was pregnant she said that her doctor said for the pregnancy that she only needed to eat an extra 200-300 calories and that this is the normal for most pregnant women. She looks to still be about the same size I don't know if her belly is back to its same position, but she said that whole eating for two thing is kind of a sham. So from what she said, because I have never been pregnant, if Kourt stuck to only eating an extra 200-300 calories it might have not been as hard for her to whip her body back into shape.

i follow her too. she and her hubby are so sweet with their baby! i watched the whole birthing video and felt like i was right there with them, lol. i've heard you only need a small amount of extra calories too but of course some women have bad cravings, some don't know better and some just choose to eat and do what they want during that time (and it's all okay). i'm not judging anyone but it does seem like the women themselves feel better physically and emotionally when they get back into shape after pregnancy. i would suspect having a lot, not a little but a lot of extra weight after pregnancy would make one feel more tired and dissatisfied with themselves.

my friend that is a zumba instructor taught almost up until the end of her pregnancy, i know everyone can't, but she was back last night and she looked great and had high energy. she seemed happy! it's been about 6 weeks since she had her precious boy. she said her hips are tight and something about ligaments so she has to stretch more but i know she loves zumba and the members love her too so i was happy to see her back in the game so quickly!

CGNYC · 01-08-2013, 09:59 AM

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you can prevent stretch marks with certain lotion and discipline .

Um, no. Either you get them or you don't. You can't discipline your breasts and belly not to get bigger when they hold milk and a baby. You might get stretch marks, you might not. I know some really large women who have zero stretch marks. You get what you get.

Josephine · 01-08-2013, 10:08 AM

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That's true. There def is pressure.

It's self inflicted pressure.

NetG · 01-08-2013, 10:15 AM

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That's true. There def is pressure.

It's self inflicted pressure.

Women may add pressure to themselves, but really? There is so much external pressure, spoken or not. There are subtle and overt media pressures all over the place, which I think was the objection to this article. It's all "hurrah, see, it's easy to get back to your pre-baby shape and you should be celebrated if you do it quickly!" with the unspoken message being "and there's something wrong with you if you don't."

spiderlashes5000 · 01-08-2013, 10:23 AM

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That's true. There def is pressure.

It's self inflicted pressure.

It's similar to the pressure for all women to be slim and have great figures and long, flowing hair and marry a doctor and have a 2 children by the time they are 35 and a thriving career and a big, beautiful, clean house, etc., etc.

It's socially-based. And very real. But we choose the extent to which we want to buy in.

Josephine · 01-08-2013, 10:25 AM

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That's true. There def is pressure.

It's self inflicted pressure.

Women may add pressure to themselves, but really? There is so much external pressure, spoken or not. There are subtle and overt media pressures all over the place, which I think was the objection to this article. It's all "hurrah, see, it's easy to get back to your pre-baby shape and you should be celebrated if you do it quickly!" with the unspoken message being "and there's something wrong with you if you don't."

I don't get that at all. Then again I don't read or even notice those types of magazines unless am at the nailshop and that's all there is, it's just mindless entertainment. If people didn't buy them, they wouldn't sell. People want to read and see this stuff. I know it goes beyond magazines, but yes really, people take this stuff way too seriously IMO.

spiderlashes5000 · 01-08-2013, 10:30 AM

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It's self inflicted pressure.

Women may add pressure to themselves, but really? There is so much external pressure, spoken or not. There are subtle and overt media pressures all over the place, which I think was the objection to this article. It's all "hurrah, see, it's easy to get back to your pre-baby shape and you should be celebrated if you do it quickly!" with the unspoken message being "and there's something wrong with you if you don't."

I don't get that at all. Then again I don't read or even notice those types of magazines unless am at the nailshop and that's all there is, it's just mindless entertainment. If people didn't buy them, they wouldn't sell. People want to read and see this stuff. I know it goes beyond magazines, but yes really, people take this stuff way too seriously IMO.

But some men take it seriously and expect Superwomen. And it's like the women who don't measure up to these (sometimes unrealistic) standards wind up being ignored or rejected by men. And I guess there is a lot of frustration and shame in that for some women.

However, I thought the gist of this article is that Kourtney is sharing her post-preg fitness and diet tips?

murrrcat · 01-08-2013, 10:44 AM

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you can prevent stretch marks with certain lotion and discipline .

Um, no. Either you get them or you don't. You can't discipline your breasts and belly not to get bigger when they hold milk and a baby. You might get stretch marks, you might not. I know some really large women who have zero stretch marks. You get what you get.

Um, no. you can prevent them. NOT everyone, sorry I forgot to say that, but you can take preventive measures with certain creams.

I know people who've had them and then didn't have them the second time.

I know people who know they can get stretch marks and used creams to prevent getting them.

I don't know what you're um, noing, but your statement doesn't really go with mine.

Josephine · 01-08-2013, 10:59 AM

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Women may add pressure to themselves, but really? There is so much external pressure, spoken or not. There are subtle and overt media pressures all over the place, which I think was the objection to this article. It's all "hurrah, see, it's easy to get back to your pre-baby shape and you should be celebrated if you do it quickly!" with the unspoken message being "and there's something wrong with you if you don't."

I don't get that at all. Then again I don't read or even notice those types of magazines unless am at the nailshop and that's all there is, it's just mindless entertainment. If people didn't buy them, they wouldn't sell. People want to read and see this stuff. I know it goes beyond magazines, but yes really, people take this stuff way too seriously IMO.

But some men take it seriously and expect Superwomen. And it's like the women who don't measure up to these (sometimes unrealistic) standards wind up being ignored or rejected by men. And I guess there is a lot of frustration and shame in that for some women.

Right and I wonder why. I guess it's low self esteem? Why would anyone want those type of men. I've come across them, they're easy to spot and eliminate.

I agree that media's portrayal of women generally sucks, nothing new.

legends · 01-08-2013, 12:04 PM

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But some men take it seriously and expect Superwomen. And it's like the women who don't measure up to these (sometimes unrealistic) standards wind up being ignored or rejected by men. And I guess there is a lot of frustration and shame in that for some women.

However, I thought the gist of this article is that Kourtney is sharing her post-preg fitness and diet tips?

Once at the gym, I overheard a personal trainer talking to his client, about how his wife was due soon, and how he'd have her back to 110, "A tight 110," in 12 weeks. Can you imagine being married to that? And then have a baby, which means you're stuck with him for the foreseeable future? That kind of pressure will where most women down, no matter how good their self-esteem.

gemini · 01-08-2013, 12:07 PM

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you can prevent stretch marks with certain lotion and discipline .

Um, no. Either you get them or you don't. You can't discipline your breasts and belly not to get bigger when they hold milk and a baby. You might get stretch marks, you might not. I know some really large women who have zero stretch marks. You get what you get.

Agreed. I used the "certain lotion" (Palmers) and still got them. They are not hugely noticeable, and don't bother me.

I have 2 kids and did not have problem losing the baby weight. The issue for me is the non baby weight.

I agree with Saria in general, but I think the "transformation" type stories will always be out there. It's also misleading, because you know some of these transformations involves a workout that is basically a full time job. I agree with Webbie too, that my weight loss is my responsibility and these types of articles should not carry much weight (pun intended?). It's things like this ("What's your excuse?") that rub me the wrong way. Yes, awesome for her, and I'm sure she worked hard (let's not mention genetics, because I have a feeling that is an "excuse"), but I truly dislike the message there. It doesn't strike me as very supportive, it's more of an implied, "In yo' face, you lazy fatties". Maybe it motivates some women, but not me.

murrrcat · 01-08-2013, 12:08 PM

that's cause everyone knows palmers ain't shh.

FieryCurls · 01-08-2013, 12:12 PM

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you can prevent stretch marks with certain lotion and discipline .

Um, no. Either you get them or you don't. You can't discipline your breasts and belly not to get bigger when they hold milk and a baby. You might get stretch marks, you might not. I know some really large women who have zero stretch marks. You get what you get.

Um, no. you can prevent them. NOT everyone, sorry I forgot to say that, but you can take preventive measures with certain creams.

I know people who've had them and then didn't have them the second time.

I know people who know they can get stretch marks and used creams to prevent getting them.

I don't know what you're um, noing, but your statement doesn't really go with mine.

Some women might not get new stretch marks with each pregnancy or they might get the marks in the same place. So, yeah, creams aren't going to help.

Like.Australia · 01-08-2013, 12:17 PM

Re: stretchmarks.. it really is luck of the draw. I got them in puberty, but not during pregnancy. Even the products that are sold as preventatives can't legally be labeled as such because they can't prove they work.

murrrcat · 01-08-2013, 12:18 PM

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Um, no. Either you get them or you don't. You can't discipline your breasts and belly not to get bigger when they hold milk and a baby. You might get stretch marks, you might not. I know some really large women who have zero stretch marks. You get what you get.

Um, no. you can prevent them. NOT everyone, sorry I forgot to say that, but you can take preventive measures with certain creams.

I know people who've had them and then didn't have them the second time.

I know people who know they can get stretch marks and used creams to prevent getting them.

I don't know what you're um, noing, but your statement doesn't really go with mine.

Some women might not get new stretch marks with each pregnancy or they might get the marks in the same place. So, yeah, creams aren't going to help.

Okay well I guess I'm just a magical wizard (which I am) because I used bio oil in high school and it got rid of my stretch marks, but it wasn't the cream it had to have been the fact that I'm a magical wizard.

I used it religiously like the bottle says, with its directions, but that doesn't count because it was magic.

But my examples are invalid because the people who have not experienced the magicalness that is wizardy creams will never believe because they have not experienced it. This is common occurrence for anything, in which people will make your statements invalid because they haven't experienced it, we've seen this numerous times, especially in nonhair.

You have to experience it to be a believer. You guys just didn't get the letter, from the hogcream school of witchcraft and stretchmark removal.

But maybe it was because I magically believed so hard that they went away, maybe, because I am magic.

Nej · 01-08-2013, 12:26 PM

Certain creams containing vitamin E may aid in healing of scar tissue/stretch marks thus affecting their appearance but will not prevent/stop them if you are genetically predisposed or have certain skin colourations. The earlier you start (when they are red/new) the better chance you have of making a difference. Despite this, some people will still get them and be unable to get rid of them.

That said who cares. I don't have any but my ex did from weight gain. Didn't bother me and shouldn't (ideally) bother anyone else.

NetG · 01-08-2013, 01:41 PM

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Once at the gym, I overheard a personal trainer talking to his client, about how his wife was due soon, and how he'd have her back to 110, "A tight 110," in 12 weeks. Can you imagine being married to that? And then have a baby, which means you're stuck with him for the foreseeable future? That kind of pressure will where most women down, no matter how good their self-esteem.

Well, it depends... if the wife WANTS him to help with that, great. If not.... gross.

I'm currently getting my butt absolutely kicked by a horse trainer. I've told him I want him to, and my mom was a little shocked when I was going to rest during one of my lessons and he yelled at me not to be a wimp and keep going. However, we had discussed it and he knew that was what I wanted him to do, and I told my mom not to worry - I desperately want to be back in shape, and I appreciate being worked that hard! (He also takes things into account like he could tell I was stiff/sore from some work so had me do other things for two days until I was feeling better, rather than ragging on me for not being able to do as well as I had before getting sore. A good personal trainer is going to be the same way.)

sarah42 · 01-08-2013, 02:54 PM

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Once at the gym, I overheard a personal trainer talking to his client, about how his wife was due soon, and how he'd have her back to 110, "A tight 110," in 12 weeks. Can you imagine being married to that? And then have a baby, which means you're stuck with him for the foreseeable future? That kind of pressure will where most women down, no matter how good their self-esteem.

Oh, that story makes me

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. Twelve weeks?? That's less than three months. It takes some time for physical recovery and healing after giving birth.

scrills · 01-08-2013, 03:19 PM

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Once at the gym, I overheard a personal trainer talking to his client, about how his wife was due soon, and how he'd have her back to 110, "A tight 110," in 12 weeks. Can you imagine being married to that? And then have a baby, which means you're stuck with him for the foreseeable future? That kind of pressure will where most women down, no matter how good their self-esteem.

Well, it depends... if the wife WANTS him to help with that, great. If not.... gross.

I'm currently getting my butt absolutely kicked by a horse trainer. I've told him I want him to, and my mom was a little shocked when I was going to rest during one of my lessons and he yelled at me not to be a wimp and keep going. However, we had discussed it and he knew that was what I wanted him to do, and I told my mom not to worry - I desperately want to be back in shape, and I appreciate being worked that hard! (He also takes things into account like he could tell I was stiff/sore from some work so had me do other things for two days until I was feeling better, rather than ragging on me for not being able to do as well as I had before getting sore. A good personal trainer is going to be the same way.)

Agreed. Maybe she wanted it or maybe it was his way of saying what a great trainer he is. Self-promotion. I wasn't there so I can't say what he meant but there the possibility that he didn't mean it in a gross way