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Old 01-26-2013, 11:14 AM   #21
 
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TG I don't have any acne.
If you did, they'd probably have something at Acme to cure it.
How can you tell?

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That was helpful. IME holistic health philosophies work well for me. I believe that everything is connected. Western medicine generally cures symptoms instead of focusing on causation and prevention. It also seems as if many supporters of Western medicine believe their way is only the right way. I find that silly.
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If you did, they'd probably have something at Acme to cure it.
I was thinking the same thing.
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Western medicine generally cures symptoms instead of focusing on causation and prevention.
Woah, that couldn't be further from the truth. It's just that the terrible American healthcare system means most people can only afford to treat symptoms.

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It also seems as if many supporters of Western medicine believe their way is only the right way. I find that silly.
Well, I don't believe that. There's no single "correct" cultural approach to medicine, and there's room for scientific medicine to be combined with aspects of traditional medicine. On top of that, medical science is like any other science -- it's always developing and improving. That includes researching the effectiveness of traditional medicine. For example, here's the National Institutes of Health, which is part of our government, has to say on acupuncture:

Acupuncture is the practice of inserting thin needles into specific body points to improve health and well-being. It originated in China more than 2,000 years ago. American practices of acupuncture use medical traditions from China, Japan, Korea and other countries. In the United States, the best-known type involves putting hair-thin, metallic needles in your skin.

Research has shown that acupuncture reduces nausea and vomiting after surgery and chemotherapy. It can also relieve pain. Researchers don't fully understand how acupuncture works. It might aid the activity of your body's pain-killing chemicals. It also might affect how you release chemicals that regulate blood pressure and flow.

(Sorry for all the edits, I was trying to make it less disjointed.)
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Well Elinowy, I'll agree to disagree :-)
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Old 01-27-2013, 06:01 AM   #27
 
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I don't like the expression "Western" medicine. To me, it's just medicine. I understand people feel it is arrogant to put one's culture above others, and if we were still using the medicine from the Middle Ages, I'd join the choir. But no culture has a monopoly on the scientific method, regardless of its roots in modern European history. If you are Korean and develop a cure doing the research and can produce universally verifiable evidence, we don't call that Korean medicine.
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I don't like the expression "Western" medicine. To me, it's just medicine.
While the underlying biology is the same, illnesses may be categorized/conceptualized differently, and manifest differently, from one culture to another. This is especially true of mental illnesses. Plus, the practice of medicine works differently from one culture to another. Western medicine currently takes a sort of conveyor belt approach to patients, which can be helpful in terms of preventing mistakes, but often feels dehumanizing.
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I don't like the expression "Western" medicine. To me, it's just medicine.
While the underlying biology is the same, illnesses may be categorized/conceptualized differently, and manifest differently, from one culture to another. This is especially true of mental illnesses. Plus, the practice of medicine works differently from one culture to another. Western medicine currently takes a sort of conveyor belt approach to patients, which can be helpful in terms of preventing mistakes, but often feels dehumanizing.
While the "medical model" definitely needs an overhaul In terms of treating people holistically (treating whole person not referring to holistic medicine) the scientific method and evidence based medicine should be practiced by all.

How people disagree with the value of the scientific method makes me think people just don't really understand what it means.

Just piggybacking not directing tis at you
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It would seem I have been dual ovulating for a decade on a constant basis. I have to be close to running out soon then right?
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Old 01-27-2013, 05:46 PM   #31
 
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Just piggybacking not directing tis at you
I'm not sure what this means But I wasn't at all saying anything against science and the scientific method. I meant that evidence based, scientific medicine fits into different cultures in different ways; there's more than one way to apply it.

Anyway, another reason that the Western model of medicine isn't appropriate for all cultures is that it revolves around the biology of ethnically European men. There's generally inadequate research into the health problems and treatments affect women and/or other ethnicities. So, medical research produced in the west isn't necessarily adequate for non-western cultures. It's not even adequate for western cultures.
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Old 01-28-2013, 07:09 AM   #32
 
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LOL, I think we should have done a spin off thread.

So acne, eh?
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Old 01-28-2013, 11:44 AM   #33
 
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I think the big cystic acne on my cheek is telling me to leave it the hell alone.

Recently I seem to be getting a lot of chin acne. It seems to coincide with ovulating.
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This time it's actually correct in that I've been having allergy problems and area 3 was hit first. However, allergies often show up on my neck first on one side then across my face toward my nose. I usually have chin acne, and more than anything it means I've been tired and leaning on my hand instead of sitting up straight. Sometimes if I'm on my desk phone too much I get some on the left side of my face from the phone.

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TG I don't have any acne.
If you did, they'd probably have something at Acme to cure it.
It really bugs me that the quoted post disappeared. Such inconsistent BS. Thanks for quoting it, RCW!
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