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Old 02-01-2013, 03:39 PM   #21
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OMG!! you guys got me sucked in! I'm on episode 59. I love fritz! Lydia is so annoying! but it was sweet when she gave her sister back her necklace. jane is so sweet. lizzie is so funny. when are we going to meet darcy?
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Haha! Actually if I remember right you should be meeting him pretty soon!
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The website mentioned in episode 84 isn't available. I wonder if it's real world issues or in-Universe happenings.
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I'm thinking by now Darcy has paid Wickham off?
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The website is still up. I just checked it.
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Is it sad I'm so obsessed with the lives of fictional strangers.
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Is it sad I'm so obsessed with the lives of fictional strangers.
At least you're in good company!
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The website is still up. I just checked it.
Whew! It's back. Going by YouTube comments last night (well, early AM) it was down for others.

I debated whether to do the right thing in-Universe and not sign up, or sign up to see what happens and if I get further info. My curiosity got the best of me and I signed up.
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Thanks to this thread I found it! I'd never heard of it before. I am up to episode 13.

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I found it slow going in the beginning, partly because I felt aged out of it, as though this version is only for those under 30. But, as it went along, I got more into it, and I enjoyed seeing how they interpreted the plot and how they used or repurposed the characters.

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I watched Lydia's channel and Pemberly Digital last night. The Lydia downward spiral seems more dramatic to me in this version. Lydia is annoying in all versions, but I felt sad that she becomes less annoying and more victim as her episodes roll on. The actor playing Wickham does play the emotionally abusive manipulator quite well, especially in episode 28. It was cringe worthy because I wanted to go in there, slap him silly, and pull her out. But, she'd just go back. She's sucked in.
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I found it slow going in the beginning, partly because I felt aged out of it, as though this version is only for those under 30. But, as it went along, I got more into it, and I enjoyed seeing how they interpreted the plot and how they used or repurposed the characters.

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I watched Lydia's channel and Pemberly Digital last night. The Lydia downward spiral seems more dramatic to me in this version. Lydia is annoying in all versions, but I felt sad that she becomes less annoying and more victim as her episodes roll on. The actor playing Wickham does play the emotionally abusive manipulator quite well, especially in episode 28. It was cringe worthy because I wanted to go in there, slap him silly, and pull her out. But, she'd just go back. She's sucked in.

I couldn't agree more! I had zero feeling for Lydia in the book mainly because after she got herself and her family in troubs she still never "got it". It was like "la-de-da all is well. I'm married; your not. Suck it."

I think in these videos sure she's annoying but you can tell she has a good heart..that's why it's so troubling that a creepo is taking advantage of her.

Also, I never understood the motivation of George Wickham in the books. In the videos is comes across very clear that he's a controlling abuser.
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I always thought the motivation for George in the book was do that he could get part of the Bennet inheritance and saw Lydia as an easy way to do that.
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I always thought the motivation for George in the book was do that he could get part of the Bennet inheritance and saw Lydia as an easy way to do that.
But the Bennett's didn't have a large inheritance. The estate was going to go to Mr Collins. The girls had a small dowery. That's why Wickham stopped seeing Elizabeth and started seeing Mary (?) whatsherface that had just come into a large sum of money.

Unless that was only info for the reader. But it seems like everyone had an idea of other people's finances back then.

ETA: Miss King! That was her name! She had inherited 10000 and George started courting her.

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I always thought the motivation for George in the book was do that he could get part of the Bennet inheritance and saw Lydia as an easy way to do that.
I believe the motivation was purely sexual and escapist. He left Brighton partly due to the fact that his gambling debts were so high. Lydia was willing to have non marital sex with him. So, he could have sexual companionship without having to marry or buy prostitutes. He could have sex while hoping for a better financial situation. Mary King was moved by her family shortly before, perhaps to keep her away from his mercenary wooing tactics.

He only married Lydia because Darcy put him between a rock and a hard place. Darcy paid off Wickham's debts, and got a minimal stipend after the marriage. He hoped to marry better, but got stuck.

His initial interest in Elizabeth may have been money driven, but he probably found out quite quickly that the estate was entailed. But, she was pretty and fed his ego, especially in their mutual dislike of Darcy, so she was good company. He moved on pretty quickly when Mary King on her large inheritance came on the scene.

I have an annotated P&P. it gets into the finer details quite nicely. Some words were used differently back then, and it makes a difference in reading.
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RCC where is that annotated p&p from? I'd love to read it.
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This one.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/0307278107

I have the Persuasion version as well. It really adds to a good Austen reading experience.
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I always thought it was quite obvious that Wickham seduced Lydia for sex in the book. He's a nasty character, he gets close to Lizzie because he finds someone who eats up his lies and hates Darcy as much as he does, when she makes it clear she knows the truth and his victim act will no longer work with her he quickly backs away. In the meantime he has started paying attention to Miss King because she has a fortune, when that doesn't work out, and with his debts spiralling, he uses Lydia for sex. He never has any intention of marrying her and he knows the Bennet family has no money, but Darcy finds him and gives him no choice but to marry her.

RCC said it better than me though

I always thought the reason Lydia comes off as such an unlikeable character is because we only ever see her through Lizzies eyes. I find Lizzies diaries a bit annoying, but as they've gone on I have gotten into the whole set up. I actually love Lydia's diaries much more and it's so uncomfortable watching it all take place. He guy playing Wickham is brilliant in that I want to tell him to back the eff off!
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I just met Gigi!!!
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Lydia would probably come across better if the book was through Mrs. Bennet's eyes.

Austen couldn't be as direct about sexy as we might be, but I find it interesting that P&P, S&S, and Mansfield Park contain sex scandals. Mansfield Park really shows the difference of how men and women were treated differently when it happened.
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I think that even if all we had were Lizzie's videos, Lydia would still come off a lot better than she does in the book. It's been a very long time since I read P&P so it's entirely possible my memory of the book is mixed in with the movie version, but I always thought Lydia existed for us to compare her to Lizzie and to be the cause of the major conflict that brings Darcy and Lizzie together. That's it. She was never a fully-realized character; there was never any there there.
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YAAASSSSS NEW VIDEO!

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