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CurlyCanadian 02-11-2013 04:35 AM

Pope Benedict to Resign
 
First time in over 600 years.

Pope Benedict to resign - The Globe and Mail

redcelticcurls 02-11-2013 05:04 AM

It certainly makes more sense than carrying on when feeble.

The New Black 02-11-2013 05:25 AM

Whoa dude...

I wonder if they're looking at nonEuropean candidates to replace him.

curlylaura 02-11-2013 06:07 AM

They can resign? I didn't know that.

CurlyCanadian 02-11-2013 06:27 AM

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Originally Posted by curlylaura (Post 2118022)
They can resign? I didn't know that.

I didn't, either. I thought it was one of those lifer roles.

thelio 02-11-2013 06:47 AM

its more like a supreme court justice role. they cant be fired, but she resign.

my grandma is going to be happy, she never liked that man.

legends 02-11-2013 07:23 AM

Hmmm, I smell a soon-to-break scandal. I can't think of any other reason for this.

Considering how "so what?" the Vatican has been over the sex abuse scandals, whatever's coming must be HUGE.

thelio 02-11-2013 07:30 AM

he always said he wouldnt be pope long. i think he knew soem people really disliked him adn didnt think he was a good pick.

but his excused because he's getting old and health is declining is suspicious. dude before him looked like they had a stick up his back to keep him from falling over. ever see him wave? like a puppet on strings.

sKorpio1190 02-11-2013 07:30 AM

Considering he was a member of the Hitler youth, he shouldn't have been there to begin with.

yossarian 02-11-2013 07:32 AM

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Originally Posted by legends (Post 2118045)
Hmmm, I smell a soon-to-break scandal. I can't think of any other reason for this.

Considering how "so what?" the Vatican has been over the sex abuse scandals, whatever's coming must be HUGE.

I suspect the HBO documentary Mea Maxima Culpa played a role. It really laid bare the institutional corruption that allowed the abuse to continue. Powerful & infuriating.

Alex Gibney also produced Smartest Guys in the Room (about Enron) and Taxi to the Dark Side (about the use of torture in the so-called "war on terror) which were both excellent.

thelio, I'm with your grandmother. I was so disappointed with the selection of Ratzinger, especially after John Paul II. I loved that man, and I'm not even Catholic!

ETA: (also to thelio) yeah, it was painful to see JPII repeatedly trotted out long after his mental and physical condition had deteriorated badly. I really thought he would be relieved of his duties, as an act of mercy.

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LadyV69 02-11-2013 07:37 AM

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Originally Posted by legends (Post 2118045)
Hmmm, I smell a soon-to-break scandal. I can't think of any other reason for this.

Considering how "so what?" the Vatican has been over the sex abuse scandals, whatever's coming must be HUGE.

That's exactly what I was thinking. They usually serve until their last breath and leave in a pine box. The resignation can' t bode well at all.


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multicultcurly 02-11-2013 07:42 AM

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Originally Posted by sKorpio1190 (Post 2118048)
Considering he was a member of the hitler youth, I can't say I'm sad to see him go. It's about time.

I didn't know he was part of this, but I don't think that necessarily should be held against him. If that is the case, there are lots of white Americans who went along with segregation and unjust laws because "that is just what people did back then." my point is that some of us have done stupid things or thought them and then grew up and realized how stupid we really were. Obviously I'm not talking about adults who willingly tortured someone else because they thought they were better than that person and not having to do time for the crime.

sKorpio1190 02-11-2013 07:50 AM

I understand that. But for this type of position, there really needs to be a higher standard. This isn't your everyday type of job. He represents an entire religion here.

thelio 02-11-2013 07:54 AM

he was a member of the nazi youth, but in his defense he had to, it was the law. at that time all youths had to join or risk beign labled a traitor and risk death along with his family. He hated it and was not a nazi supporter. he had a relative who was sent to the camps and killed because he was mentally hadicapped or something.

sKorpio1190 02-11-2013 07:56 AM

He had to. Yes. But he didn't have to be the pope

sKorpio1190 02-11-2013 08:00 AM

All I'm saying is that I don't agree with him becoming the pope. Whether or not other people feel that way too is entirely their choice. I'm not forcing my views on anyone, just stating my opinion

thelio 02-11-2013 08:06 AM

would he had been allowed to reject the position when offered. when he was elected he really didnt seem enthusiastic about the job.

CanItBeChristine 02-11-2013 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by thelio (Post 2118059)
he was a member of the nazi youth, but in his defense he had to, it was the law. at that time all youths had to join or risk beign labled a traitor and risk death along with his family. He hated it and was not a nazi supporter. he had a relative who was sent to the camps and killed because he was mentally hadicapped or something.

Yes, his cousin was killed in the euthanasia program to test-out their techniques. He had Down's Syndrome. So sick.

I remember when he became Pope...he said that he really didn't want to be Pope, and prayed like crazy to not be elected. Honestly, 7 years later, I clearly remember that and remember thinking the church was in trouble if this was the Pope!

thelio 02-11-2013 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by CanItBeChristine (Post 2118367)
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Originally Posted by thelio (Post 2118059)
he was a member of the nazi youth, but in his defense he had to, it was the law. at that time all youths had to join or risk beign labled a traitor and risk death along with his family. He hated it and was not a nazi supporter. he had a relative who was sent to the camps and killed because he was mentally hadicapped or something.

Yes, his cousin was killed in the euthanasia program to test-out their techniques. He had Down's Syndrome. So sick.

I remember when he became Pope...he said that he really didn't want to be Pope, and prayed like crazy to not be elected. Honestly, 7 years later, I clearly remember that and remember thinking the church was in trouble if this was the Pope!

I remember he said he would be pope for like five years or something. I actually feel bad for him. He didn't want the job. He probably knew people didn't want him for the job. At least he got a few years left to go do whatever he has planned.

sKorpio1190 02-11-2013 04:54 PM

So why did they choose him then...?


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