I can't enjoy a vacation surrounded by animal cruelty

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I'm in Puerto Rico visiting my grandmother because I haven't seen her in about 8 years. I enjoy being with her in her home, but when we go out its torture for me. The amount of animal cruelty is horrible. There are dead dogs on the side of the roads from being run over, dead dogs that people poison just for fun, dead puppies from having their mom killed, starving dogs in the streets that usually are limping too, dogs left to die in car trunks because their owners are tired of them... I can't take this! I'm a HUGE animal lover. My dog is like my baby. I can't even watch those ASPCA commercials back home. This is killing me. I cry every time we go out because of it. I want to enjoy my vacation but I can't like this. Idk what to do
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Wow, I have never seen that in puerto rico! I have only been there about 4-5 times since my dad moved there so maybe I just didn't notice or it wasnt as apparent where we were but thats just terrible. That would upset me too.
I am so sorry. i am an animal lover as well and have trouble with those ASPCA commercials. I have no advice, i don't know how things are in PR. I dont know how i would take seeing what you are seeing.
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It's probably not in the commercial areas. The problem is that my grandma lives in a tiny town, so it's abundant here. It's driving me crazy and ruining what is supposed to be a fun time
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Thanks thelio. I'm glad to see I'm not alone. My grandma and my father just tell me get over it because that's just how it is here. Well, excuse the hell out of me for not being raised with that ****! I'm sorry, but that just really gets me upset
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its hard to see when you are raised or live in a country where there are laws against such abuse and cromes. a friend from the philippines, was shocked that american's treat animals so humanely here. she told me of some horror stories she had witnesses. for her then it wasnt a big deal. now that she has lived here for over 5 years and has a dog, she cant take seeing it when she goes back over there. she said she thinks of her dog and wants to cry.
I've heard it said that the measure of how civilized and advanced a society is can be judged by how it treats the most vulnerable members. I think this could apply to animals who are so often at our mercy.

I wouldn't be able to enjoy a vacation where I saw such cruelty, either.
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If you feel THAT strongly about it, maybe you can make it your life's work...or maybe one of many projects you take on over the course of your career. I'm sure your (future) law degree will help you start a nonprofit there.

When something makes that kind of impression upon you, you shouldn't dismiss it.

I haven't been to PR but I've seen what you describe in other parts of the Caribbean.
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Last edited by spiderlashes5000; 03-11-2013 at 10:09 AM.
sKorpio1190 -- the animal cruelty is heartbreaking here in PR

A friend of mine started a program on Vieques that partnered with the Humane Society (I think?) and the local schools to teach children about caring for animals properly. It's still a new program, but hopefully it will counter-act what they see at home (pitbull and rooster fighting, poising dogs that bark too much, trapping cats and letting them starve, etc.) After school, the kids get to interact with the animals and are taught about feeding, bathing, loving, and caring for them.
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That would be very hard to see, especially on a regular basis and knowing it is all purposeful cruelty.
I agree curly pearl, it does make humans seem lowly and uncivilized and uncaring when we can do such things to other creatures. It happens everywhere and at every level of the "civilized society" scale.
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That would be very hard to see, especially on a regular basis and knowing it is all purposeful cruelty.
I agree curly pearl, it does make humans seem lowly and uncivilized and uncaring when we can do such things to other creatures. It happens everywhere and at every level of the "civilized society" scale.
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I don't think it's all purposeful; a lot of these dogs are strays and they breed and get sick and hurt.
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Most of it is purposeful spiderlashes. They poison the dogs, hit them, abuse them, etc for fun. They think it's funny
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Yes spider I understand it's probably not 100% purposeful. There are strays most everywhere who limp or are sick. But whether it's 100% or 87% purposeful, it's still more than it should be.
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Most of it is purposeful spiderlashes. They poison the dogs, hit them, abuse them, etc for fun. They think it's funny
Originally Posted by sKorpio1190
Aren't there any laws against that?
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If you feel THAT strongly about it, maybe you can make it your life's work...or maybe one of many projects you take on over the course of your career. I'm sure your (future) law degree will help you start a nonprofit there.

When something makes that kind of impression upon you, you shouldn't dismiss it.

I haven't been to PR but I've seen what you describe in other parts of the Caribbean.
Originally Posted by spiderlashes5000
I was actually thinking about that earlier
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Most of it is purposeful spiderlashes. They poison the dogs, hit them, abuse them, etc for fun. They think it's funny
Originally Posted by sKorpio1190
Aren't there any laws against that?
Originally Posted by spiderlashes5000
As far as I know, none. It's just "the way of life" here. Which really scares me
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Yes spider I understand it's probably not 100% purposeful. I have strays around my house who limp or are sick. But whether it's 100% or 87% purposeful, it's still more than it should be.
Originally Posted by jeepcurlygurl
I liked the really, gratuitously snarky response you initially posted better.
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I've heard it said that the measure of how civilized and advanced a society is can be judged by how it treats the most vulnerable members. I think this could apply to animals who are so often at our mercy.

I wouldn't be able to enjoy a vacation where I saw such cruelty, either.
Originally Posted by curlypearl
I agree with this well known sentiment about how we treat our weakest members, I just don't like the use of the word civilized, because I think in too many contexts it's used as a judgment and way of seeming as if one's society is better than others, especially in modern times. Of course, it's not as if our so-called "civilized" society treats our most vulnerable members better - we just hide it more and give the guys who run dog fighting rings slaps on the hand before letting them return to their careers as if nothing were wrong... And then there's the way our society treats the "others" and the "less thans" as they are perceived - blame them for not having health care or jobs, etc. I think our current media treatment of our weakest members in US society would have us branded as barbarians if outsiders really looked at us as far as how we treat others.

That would be very hard to see, especially on a regular basis and knowing it is all purposeful cruelty.
I agree curly pearl, it does make humans seem lowly and uncivilized and uncaring when we can do such things to other creatures. It happens everywhere and at every level of the "civilized society" scale.
Originally Posted by jeepcurlygurl
I don't think it's all purposeful; a lot of these dogs are strays and they breed and get sick and hurt.
Originally Posted by spiderlashes5000
That's a big part of it, I think. Here, strays are picked up and spayed/neutered, put to sleep if sick or not adopted. Many folks from other parts of the world would think our tendency to put dogs in cages is cruel, too. I remember being astounded by the huge number of stray cats in Rome, and can imagine folks being horrified by that easily, too.

I also applaud Spidey's suggestion that if it affects you so strongly it is something you should think about and try to determine how to change with the opportunities you have in your life. There are more good causes out there than any of us can help in a lifetime, but the ones which really speak to you like this are the ones which are most rewarding to help.
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