Which car to get?

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Honda element 2003 with 107,000 miles or 2004 Toyota rav4 with 122,000. Please don't say the rav4 just because the element is considered "ugly." I actually like how they both look. Also, they are both the same price. I will be moving upstate where it snows a lot, if that helps with deciding. Thanks
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What (if any) major service repairs/replacements have they both had?

Do you have service history for both, meaning oil changes, etc? When were the belts last changed on both?

How old are the tires on both?

Any recalls on either?

Which car feels best when you're driving? Do you prefer the handling on one? Do you prefer the layout of controls on one?

From personal experience a Honda engine will go on and on. I know toyota is also well made, but my personal experience is with Honda.
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Thanks goldy! My experience is with Toyota so I'm glad u said Honda is reliable. My experience has been that Toyota also lasts a long time
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i think honda and toyota makes awesome cars. but as goldy mentioned more info like repairs and such would help you make a better choice.
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I had a 1997 toyota camry it was bomb better than my parents brand new car, Until some male pulled out on a highway and totaled it. Jerk.


I hear great things about hondas too.


I would get the element if I had to choose, the other looks like a minivan, and I hate minivans.



omg I hate minivans. Minivans are the worst.
What (if any) major service repairs/replacements have they both had?

Do you have service history for both, meaning oil changes, etc? When were the belts last changed on both?

How old are the tires on both?

Any recalls on either?

Which car feels best when you're driving? Do you prefer the handling on one? Do you prefer the layout of controls on one?

From personal experience a Honda engine will go on and on. I know toyota is also well made, but my personal experience is with Honda.
Originally Posted by goldy
Yep, except my experience is with toyotas and is the same. Both are reliable on paper so it's going to boil down to which needs less work and which one you prefer(driving, looks, exterior/interior, etc).
I would let my mechanic tell me.
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You say you like the look of the Element but have you driven it? I ask because friend who have/had Elements say they're noisy/rough and don't drive like cars. The Rav 4 is probably going to be quieter and more car-like.

I'd ask a lot of questions about why they're the same price. Wholesale value on the Element is a couple thousand dollars less than the Rav 4.
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Elements are really good cars. Everyone I know who has one absolutely loves it and has had no problems. They are very spacious, and easy to clean. They are fantastic in the rain, and snow. The only place you will find one lacking is in high wind, and that has everything to do with the boxy shape. Still, it's nothing that can't be handled. One problem you might have with an Element is dealing with service. Most of the parts are made in the US, which is handy, but Elements are no longer being made. The parts might (eventually) become hard to find.



On the other hand, I have heard nothing bad about the Rav. Toyotas are also supposed to be great in rain and snow. Con: It does seem like Toyota has more recalls.
When I hear terms like "hipster" I think, who told cliques they could leave high school??

I had a 1997 toyota camry it was bomb better than my parents brand new car, Until some male pulled out on a highway and totaled it. Jerk.


I hear great things about hondas too.


I would get the element if I had to choose, the other looks like a minivan, and I hate minivans.



omg I hate minivans. Minivans are the worst.
Originally Posted by murrrcat
I had a 1998 camry. I loved that car. Sniff. I kept it much longer than anyone expected. It went 224,000 miles before the trans went ( and even then i knew it was coming). So sad. I miss u car!!!!!


Have you driven them both? I prefer the ride of the Toyota. Much smoother although i think the element looks better


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Last edited by scrills; 03-26-2013 at 08:45 PM.
Whenever buying a car you have to look at their history. Have they been in an accident before? Were these cars purchased at an auction and resold? You don't want to end up with a lemon. Also like they said before you have to check the engine, radiator, alternator etc etc. You have to make sure you are getting a good car in good condition that hasn't been put through hell and has been taken care of by the previous owner especially since they are both over 100k miles. If they both clear than you can decide by the look and feel of the car. Whichever appeals to you the most. As for the brands Toyota and Honda are reliable names. I have a 04 Honda Civic and I love it. Then again I consider myself lucky. I found the perfect owner who took care of it and it had about 69k when I bought it. Also make sure the prices match the Kelley Blue Book value. You don't want to pay more than what it's worth.
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Well I went to both dealers and both of them didn't even have the cars. They made me drive down there to try to convince me to buy other, much more expensive cars. I'm so pissed. they were over 40 miles from my house!
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Toyotas suck in snow. I've heard the newer rav4s are better than they used to be; I don't know what year they improved, though.

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I know you couldn't get either but also keep in mind that generally Toyotas are a much smoother ride if that's what you prefer. My sister, brother, and dad had camries and avalons which I've driven and I didn't like the feel at all. I prefer a car I can feel that I'm driving with a more sporty/rough feel. Hondas and Nissans are way better for that. The Rav4 might be different though.
Do both come with AWD and 4WD? IDk anything about either of these cars but is the clearance on the Element high enough for high snow? What about a CR-V? They don't burn much gas and they have 4WD (or at least AWD). The older ones are a little higher off the ground.
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Well I went to both dealers and both of them didn't even have the cars. They made me drive down there to try to convince me to buy other, much more expensive cars. I'm so pissed. they were over 40 miles from my house!
Originally Posted by sKorpio1190
That sucks sorry to hear you had to go through that mission. That's why I don't trust dealers plus they make you pay dealer fees and all when they didn't do a damn thing. I don't know how much you have for a car but I prefer to buy owner to owner. I found my car on Auto Trader. The owner just happened to live by my job. I made an offer and got it. That was 3 yrs ago and I've loved it ever since. You do have to be careful tho. There are a lot of ppl that buy cars at auctions fix them up so they last through the one month warranty and then sell them. If you can buy one from an older couple that didn't drive it too much than that's perfect but it's rare nowadays. Also a car with hwy miles is better than a car with a lot of city miles. Most importantly be patient a car is not something you want to rush into.
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Longlivecurls, you keep mentioning auctions and how bad they are. I guess you don't realize how many thousands of cars are put through dealer auctions every week. That's how dealers fill up their used car lots. They're definitely not getting all those cars through trade-ins! Auctions are where lease returns go after being turned in.

I'd rather buy a certified used car through a dealer, knowing that it didn't sit in a flood after Sandy than buy a car from god knows who and have no idea what I'm getting.
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Well I went to both dealers and both of them didn't even have the cars. They made me drive down there to try to convince me to buy other, much more expensive cars. I'm so pissed. they were over 40 miles from my house!
Originally Posted by sKorpio1190
That sucks sorry to hear you had to go through that mission. That's why I don't trust dealers plus they make you pay dealer fees and all when they didn't do a damn thing. I don't know how much you have for a car but I prefer to buy owner to owner. I found my car on Auto Trader. The owner just happened to live by my job. I made an offer and got it. That was 3 yrs ago and I've loved it ever since. You do have to be careful tho. There are a lot of ppl that buy cars at auctions fix them up so they last through the one month warranty and then sell them. If you can buy one from an older couple that didn't drive it too much than that's perfect but it's rare nowadays. Also a car with hwy miles is better than a car with a lot of city miles. Most importantly be patient a car is not something you want to rush into.
Originally Posted by longlivecurls
I've been looking like crazy bit cannot find anything for sale by owner that I want and can afford within a 50 mile radius ugh!
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Longlivecurls, you keep mentioning auctions and how bad they are. I guess you don't realize how many thousands of cars are put through dealer auctions every week. That's how dealers fill up their used car lots. They're definitely not getting all those cars through trade-ins! Auctions are where lease returns go after being turned in.

I'd rather buy a certified used car through a dealer, knowing that it didn't sit in a flood after Sandy than buy a car from god knows who and have no idea what I'm getting.
Originally Posted by mrspoppers
But how would u know it didn't sit in the flood? Dealers will fix up anything and say anything to sell a car, as I'm learning the hard way. I rather buy from an owner and just have my mechanic look at it but I haven't found anything. And quite frankly every dealer I've been to here (except for one in my home town) has been horrendous. I felt like I was going to get mugged after leaving them!
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Longlivecurls, you keep mentioning auctions and how bad they are. I guess you don't realize how many thousands of cars are put through dealer auctions every week. That's how dealers fill up their used car lots. They're definitely not getting all those cars through trade-ins! Auctions are where lease returns go after being turned in.

I'd rather buy a certified used car through a dealer, knowing that it didn't sit in a flood after Sandy than buy a car from god knows who and have no idea what I'm getting.
Originally Posted by mrspoppers
But how would u know it didn't sit in the flood? Dealers will fix up anything and say anything to sell a car, as I'm learning the hard way. I rather buy from an owner and just have my mechanic look at it but I haven't found anything. And quite frankly every dealer I've been to here (except for one in my home town) has been horrendous. I felt like I was going to get mugged after leaving them!
Originally Posted by sKorpio1190
They are required to disclose this by law. A reputable dealer is more likely to tell you the truth about that than some random guy on craigslist or Auto Trader. If you do look at cars for sale through private parties, please be careful and take a very large, male friend and some pepper spray with you.
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