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Old 04-04-2013, 11:47 AM   #21
 
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GC, this thread has made me want to henna. My hair is fine and lots of gray. Pretty gray but gray and starting to be depressing.

RCW, since you like to talk about henna. My hair is dark brown, almost black with maybe 25% gray, fine and pretty dry. I'm pretty opposed to chemical coloring. I'm not sure how I would feel about red. I used henna in my late teens/early twenties but my hair was cut in a pixie and really anything then looked cute on me; now not so much.
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GC, this thread has made me want to henna. My hair is fine and lots of gray. Pretty gray but gray and starting to be depressing.

RCW, since you like to talk about henna. My hair is dark brown, almost black with maybe 25% gray, fine and pretty dry. I'm pretty opposed to chemical coloring. I'm not sure how I would feel about red. I used henna in my late teens/early twenties but my hair was cut in a pixie and really anything then looked cute on me; now not so much.
Well, you have to like red if you want to use henna. Henna only dyes red. You can "brown it" with indigo. You can even get a "black" with a 2-step henna-indigo. But it will always have a red tone with it.

I happen to LOVE my dark auburn streaks...henna turns my gray into red highlights and leaves the brown looking brown (in regular light, in sunlight, it all looks red). But red isn't for everyone.
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Is the color like this? How do you do a 2-step henna-indigo?

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Is the color like this? How do you do a 2-step henna-indigo?

http://www.teluguone.com/tonecmsuser...0Coloring1.jpg


Yes, that's about right.

A 2-step henna/indigo as a way to get black is done by doing a full henna treatment, rinsing, and then doing an indigo treatment. Indigo dyes blue (on fabric with a mordent), but if you use it with red (henna), it makes black. You can get a fairly dark brown by mixing henna and indigo together in one treatment (called henndigo), but it needs to be a 2-step to get all the way to black. There are a lot of details on it at the mehandi.com website.
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Thank you, I spent some time reading on the mehandi.com site. It's on the list for after April 15th. I think I'll order soon so that I can be ready.
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Thank you, I spent some time reading on the mehandi.com site. It's on the list for after April 15th. I think I'll order soon so that I can be ready.
Will you please post before and after photos? I am planning on posting mine in hopes that RCW doesn't respond, "I told you to go slow because it's permanent!!!"
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Thanks, RCW, speckla and claudine!

Here are my before and afters:
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GC, your hair looks amazing.

I'm going to add some lighter extensions in my hair for the Summer to give it a highlighted affect.
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Thanks, RCW, speckla and claudine!

Here are my before and afters:


I like it very much! Just enough color to make it golden. Nice job!
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I love your hair golden. It is truly golden!

My twelve year old daughter wants to do hers when I do mine. I hardly ever say no to her about stuff like this since I'm really trying to pick my battles. So I am going to research the best way for her hair to be shiny and fun but not so much a different color ~ she has very dark gorgeous brown hair.

Thanks Golden and RCW, you've inspired me by your words in this thread and I'm looking forward to trying this after 4/15. I was resigned to my mop and now I'm optimistic again!
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Your hair looks great!

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My twelve year old daughter wants to do hers when I do mine. I hardly ever say no to her about stuff like this since I'm really trying to pick my battles. So I am going to research the best way for her hair to be shiny and fun but not so much a different color ~ she has very dark gorgeous brown hair.


Even used full-strength, henna won't make a drastic change on dark brown hair. She'd get a lovely red glow in the sun, and LOTS of shine, but it wouldn't look crazy-red in normal lighting.
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Thanks RCW, that's what I was hoping.
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Golden, I love your color! I use a cassia/henna mix all the time to camouflage my grays, but I'm curious to know what your recipe was. Would you mid posting it? Did you use a gloss?
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My twelve year old daughter wants to do hers when I do mine. I hardly ever say no to her about stuff like this since I'm really trying to pick my battles. So I am going to research the best way for her hair to be shiny and fun but not so much a different color ~ she has very dark gorgeous brown hair.


Even used full-strength, henna won't make a drastic change on dark brown hair. She'd get a lovely red glow in the sun, and LOTS of shine, but it wouldn't look crazy-red in normal lighting.
Yea, I have basically black hair and it doesn't show at all.

Random henna(mendhi) info -

In south asia, most older women use it when they start getting white hairs, so they end up with orangey hair. Many Muslim religious men also dye their beards with it's believed that the prophet Muhammad used to do that. And because of that, many Muslim brides won't put henna on their feet (as is a tradtion at south asian weddings) because they see it as disrespectful(yes its crazy).

I now just use it on my hands for holidays.

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Golden, I love your color! I use a cassia/henna mix all the time to camouflage my grays, but I'm curious to know what your recipe was. Would you mid posting it? Did you use a gloss?
Yes, I did a gloss and I loved it way better then the cassia/henna mix I used years ago.

I used henna for African Hair from mehandi.com. I ordered a 3 gram sample and it's enough to do my hair twice!

I mixed the entire packet with lemon juice until it was the consistency of yogurt and let it sit about 5 hours. (that wasn't the plan, but I got sick and it waited) When I went back, because I hadn't covered it at all, it had dried a bit, so I added more lemon juice to get it back to Greek yogurt-like.

I divided into halves and put 1 tsp. in a zipper baggie in my freezer for next time and then to the remaining teaspoon I added 3 tbs. of Jessicurl Deep Conditioning Treatment and then 1/2 c. of Suave Rosemary & Mint conditioner. Since you apply it to dry hair, it takes way more conditioner than I thought! I thought about adding oil, but didn't since JDCT has a lovely mix of oils.

I started at the roots and massaged it in all over my scalp really good first and then worked it out to the ends. I raked it through probably way more than necessary and even scrunched it to make sure it covered every single hair. Then I swirled it around my head, plastering it down. I covered it with a plastic Walmart bag and used a butterfly clip on the outside to hold it tight and in place. Then I covered that with an old towel. The plastic bag and towel got my head really warm, so it was like a conditioning treatment, henna coloring, and sinus relief all in one!

I set a timer for 30 minutes and then rinsed it out. It rinsed out SOOOOOOO easily because of the conditioner. My hair was super silky and slippery! I did go ahead and shampoo just to make sure there was no gritty residue and then I used a wee bit of leave in conditioner, favorite gel and scrunched it and let it air dry.

It is so silky and smooth now! I don't look at my hair much, but I cannot stop touching it!!! I really like the color and texture now. It didn't effect my curl pattern at all. I am so pleased with the results!

I had never heard of a henna gloss until RCW suggested it and then Claudine and Speckla gave me conditioner recommendations (which I took as guidelines and just used what I had at home already.)

I hope that makes sense. If not, feel free to ask questions and I'll answer the best I can.

ETA: wear gloves! I did and had no skin issues at all

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Since you apply it to dry hair, it takes way more conditioner than I thought!
Just a note...you don't have to apply to dry hair. You can apply to damp hair.
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Golden, I love your color! I use a cassia/henna mix all the time to camouflage my grays, but I'm curious to know what your recipe was. Would you mid posting it? Did you use a gloss?
Yes, I did a gloss and I loved it way better then the cassia/henna mix I used years ago.

I used henna for African Hair from mehandi.com. I ordered a 3 gram sample and it's enough to do my hair twice!

I mixed the entire packet with lemon juice until it was the consistency of yogurt and let it sit about 5 hours. (that wasn't the plan, but I got sick and it waited) When I went back, because I hadn't covered it at all, it had dried a bit, so I added more lemon juice to get it back to Greek yogurt-like.

I divided into halves and put 1 tsp. in a zipper baggie in my freezer for next time and then to the remaining teaspoon I added 3 tbs. of Jessicurl Deep Conditioning Treatment and then 1/2 c. of Suave Rosemary & Mint conditioner. Since you apply it to dry hair, it takes way more conditioner than I thought! I thought about adding oil, but didn't since JDCT has a lovely mix of oils.

I started at the roots and massaged it in all over my scalp really good first and then worked it out to the ends. I raked it through probably way more than necessary and even scrunched it to make sure it covered every single hair. Then I swirled it around my head, plastering it down. I covered it with a plastic Walmart bag and used a butterfly clip on the outside to hold it tight and in place. Then I covered that with an old towel. The plastic bag and towel got my head really warm, so it was like a conditioning treatment, henna coloring, and sinus relief all in one!

I set a timer for 30 minutes and then rinsed it out. It rinsed out SOOOOOOO easily because of the conditioner. My hair was super silky and slippery! I did go ahead and shampoo just to make sure there was no gritty residue and then I used a wee bit of leave in conditioner, favorite gel and scrunched it and let it air dry.

It is so silky and smooth now! I don't look at my hair much, but I cannot stop touching it!!! I really like the color and texture now. It didn't effect my curl pattern at all. I am so pleased with the results!

I had never heard of a henna gloss until RCW suggested it and then Claudine and Speckla gave me conditioner recommendations (which I took as guidelines and just used what I had at home already.)

I hope that makes sense. If not, feel free to ask questions and I'll answer the best I can.

ETA: wear gloves! I did and had no skin issues at all
Thank you so much! I use cassia/henna from mehandi.com all the time, and I've done glosses in the past, but I don't really get to realize the full impact of the color because I only have a few grays here and there yet.

Your color is really the color I am striving for with my grays. I use the African henna as well. I used to mix it with my own flaxseed gel. I can't use all that lemon juice because my hair is dark. I've noticed that it bleaches out the surrounding natural color too much, so I had to cut way back on it or use amla as the acid.

So am I understanding correctly that you didn't mix this with cassia? This is just a henna-only gloss?

Henna/cassia seems to have relaxed my curl pattern somewhat.
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Thank you so much! I use cassia/henna from mehandi.com all the time, and I've done glosses in the past, but I don't really get to realize the full impact of the color because I only have a few grays here and there yet.

Your color is really the color I am striving for with my grays. I use the African henna as well. I used to mix it with my own flaxseed gel. I can't use all that lemon juice because my hair is dark. I've noticed that it bleaches out the surrounding natural color too much, so I had to cut way back on it or use amla as the acid.

So am I understanding correctly that you didn't mix this with cassia? This is just a henna-only gloss?

Henna/cassia seems to have relaxed my curl pattern somewhat.
Yes, I used just henna, no cassia. The henna is "watered" down or diluted by the conditioner, so I didn't get RED hair. Amla should help your curl pattern if you use that instead of lemon juice, according to the mehandi website. I may try that next time.

I liked the result on dry hair, really soft and silky. I may experiment when it comes time to do my roots.
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Thanks, GC.

The amla hasn't ever done anything for my curl pattern. I use Brazilian Keratin, so my curl pattern is a little unpredictable now and has been uncharacteristically soft and limp recently.

Enjoy your hair!
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