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Old 04-11-2013, 05:33 AM   #41
 
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Women do amaze me. Many have been in some messed up situations, and managed to keep going. I hate hearing stories about these young girls who have not been able to.
i consider myself to be very lucky that i don't remember much of what happened to me and that i had a psychiatrist who didn't insist that i did in order to heal. what i do remember is bad enough and i am fortunate to be able to detach myself from it 25 years later.

Rehtaeh Parsons' father has now spoken out too:

'She meant everything to me': Father writes of teen's suicide | CTV News

"How is it possible for someone to leave a digital trail like that yet the RCMP don’t have evidence of a crime? What were they looking for if photos and bragging weren’t enough?”


and now Anonymous is on the case:

Earlier Wednesday, the hacker group Anonymous says it has identified two of the four boys who allegedly raped Parsons and is threatening to reveal all of their identities if authorities do not press charges. (...) “The names of the rapists will be kept until it is apparent you have no intention of providing justice to Rehtaeh's family,” the group said in the statement. “Please be aware that there are other groups of Anons also attempting to uncover this information and they may not to wish to wait at all. Better act fast.”

i don't know what it is we're teaching kids today, but this goes FAR beyond anything i experienced in high school:

Rehtaeh Parsons’ friends were silent about alleged sexual assault | Toronto Star

One student, who grew up with Rehtaeh but said they had grown apart in high school, said she had seen the picture.

She shifted uncomfortably when asked why she and others didn’t tell anyone.

“I don’t think anyone knew it was that bad,” she said.


what kind of PEOPLE are we raising who don't know right from wrong?

maybe they couldn't have prosecuted those boys for rape (sexual assault in Canada), but we have stringent laws on the production and distribution of child porn, and this photo definitely falls into that category.

as for the school officials...

...the high school was informed by police that a photograph of her of the alleged incident was being circulated, but school officials didn’t attempt to find the source.

“We thought that was a police job,”...


it's time the cops start charging teens - the girls as well as the boys - who distribute these photos. and charge them as adults, register them as sexual predators.
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Am angry ...this girl shouldn't be the one dead , if she had any kind of support she wouldn't end her life, why do I feel that there was no real action bcuz they maybe blamed the victim for putting her self in such a situation ...crazy !
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the whole situation is sad.

first off the parents should not have had to move in order to get their daughter peace after something like that happened. The community should had banned together and got her justice and supported her.

this piss me off to no end that this poor child felt she had to resort to this. Im also pissed that we as women have to project our selves and take measures to prevent rape. Why the fvck do we have to protect ourselves? why cant society train these creatures with penises to keep their gross paws to themselves!?!?!? if I say no, I mean no!!! But if i got off his balls, i'm in the wrong and risk going to jail?? effe that bs!

{{{HUGS}}} to my curlies who had to go through this crap. I hope all of your assalants get wants coming to them in the most painful and brutal of ways.
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The whole thing is disgusting. The fact that charges were never brought against those boys even after the photos went viral is proof that women and girls don't rate.

Hugs to all those who survived.
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Women do amaze me. Many have been in some messed up situations, and managed to keep going. I hate hearing stories about these young girls who have not been able to.
i consider myself to be very lucky that i don't remember much of what happened to me and that i had a psychiatrist who didn't insist that i did in order to heal. what i do remember is bad enough and i am fortunate to be able to detach myself from it 25 years later.

Rehtaeh Parsons' father has now spoken out too:

'She meant everything to me': Father writes of teen's suicide | CTV News

"How is it possible for someone to leave a digital trail like that yet the RCMP don’t have evidence of a crime? What were they looking for if photos and bragging weren’t enough?”


and now Anonymous is on the case:

Earlier Wednesday, the hacker group Anonymous says it has identified two of the four boys who allegedly raped Parsons and is threatening to reveal all of their identities if authorities do not press charges. (...) “The names of the rapists will be kept until it is apparent you have no intention of providing justice to Rehtaeh's family,” the group said in the statement. “Please be aware that there are other groups of Anons also attempting to uncover this information and they may not to wish to wait at all. Better act fast.”

i don't know what it is we're teaching kids today, but this goes FAR beyond anything i experienced in high school:

Rehtaeh Parsons’ friends were silent about alleged sexual assault | Toronto Star

One student, who grew up with Rehtaeh but said they had grown apart in high school, said she had seen the picture.

She shifted uncomfortably when asked why she and others didn’t tell anyone.

“I don’t think anyone knew it was that bad,” she said.


what kind of PEOPLE are we raising who don't know right from wrong?

maybe they couldn't have prosecuted those boys for rape (sexual assault in Canada), but we have stringent laws on the production and distribution of child porn, and this photo definitely falls into that category.

as for the school officials...

...the high school was informed by police that a photograph of her of the alleged incident was being circulated, but school officials didn’t attempt to find the source.

“We thought that was a police job,”...


it's time the cops start charging teens - the girls as well as the boys - who distribute these photos. and charge them as adults, register them as sexual predators.
(((Hugs))) Rou. I know exactly what you mean with remembering enough and staying detached. I'll just consider this group therapy, and move on. I needed to finally say it, but that still doesn't change what I already know. I could not help it, I can not change it, and I am not going to let him mess with the rest of my life. He ran back home, and he can stay there.


You are right, RCW. Claudine's words do sum it up, perfectly.


Good lord. Everyone is now shifting responsibility. :-/ It figures.
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I just can't fathom the fact that not one, but four rapists were able to get together, assault someone, and think it was "cool" enough to record digitally.

What the hell is going on here?

I was also assaulted thirteen years ago by someone who I knew well, but I suspect that I was drugged and the entire memory is so hazy. What I do recall is months later, calling my older brother in hysterics as the scene became clearer to me. I never did anything about it, but my assailant ended up in jail for other reasons, and he is still there now.

I later became a women's studies minor in college, and felt a lot of guilt for not even attempting to press charges in my past. In at least three other situations, I became violent toward men for grabbing my waist/butt/etc (somehow acceptable for some at a club) and I was the one that was no longer invited out with friends.

The one time that I did call the police to make a report for an assault, there were no cameras in the gas station where it occurred (it was the attendant) and my report was just filed and nothing came of it. It's sad to say that it still felt better than doing nothing.

These stories coming from everyone make me so angry and sad. I don't want my daughter going through what so many of us have gone through, or worse. Sometimes it feels like the world has gone crazy.
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I just can't fathom the fact that not one, but four rapists were able to get together, assault someone, and think it was "cool" enough to record digitally.

What the hell is going on here?


I was also assaulted thirteen years ago by someone who I knew well, but I suspect that I was drugged and the entire memory is so hazy. What I do recall is months later, calling my older brother in hysterics as the scene became clearer to me. I never did anything about it, but my assailant ended up in jail for other reasons, and he is still there now.

I later became a women's studies minor in college, and felt a lot of guilt for not even attempting to press charges in my past. In at least three other situations, I became violent toward men for grabbing my waist/butt/etc (somehow acceptable for some at a club) and I was the one that was no longer invited out with friends.

The one time that I did call the police to make a report for an assault, there were no cameras in the gas station where it occurred (it was the attendant) and my report was just filed and nothing came of it. It's sad to say that it still felt better than doing nothing.

These stories coming from everyone make me so angry and sad. I don't want my daughter going through what so many of us have gone through, or worse. Sometimes it feels like the world has gone crazy.
Me either.

Jesus, date rape is so common. I guess I didn't know...
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I wish didn't remember. I wish didn't remember her and him holding me down, covering my mouth, while he assaulted me. I wish I didn't know the shame and guilt you can feel at age 12. I wish didn't remember the fear of telling what happened, knowing someone could, probably would get killed. I don't know where my perpetrators are. I remember what they did and their names, not their faces.

I am fine most of the time, now, but I wasn't for a long time emotionally nor physically. I didn't say anything to anyone until I was 18. Unfortunately that took a toll physically. I don't think my body has ever really recovered.
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(((Munchy))) I am sorry.

I am always proud of women who have the courage to come forward. I tell them that when I take calls about it. It's not easy, for many reasons. We know that. You have your own personal struggle with it, depending on the situation, and now young/women have a whole new set of worries.

I feel like the world has gone crazy as well. I'm actually quite sure of it.
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Oh God, Juana. I am so very sorry.


It's enough to make you sick.
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Munchy, I bet you felt empowered by filing that report. Good for you.
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I just can't fathom the fact that not one, but four rapists were able to get together, assault someone, and think it was "cool" enough to record digitally.

What the hell is going on here?


I was also assaulted thirteen years ago by someone who I knew well, but I suspect that I was drugged and the entire memory is so hazy. What I do recall is months later, calling my older brother in hysterics as the scene became clearer to me. I never did anything about it, but my assailant ended up in jail for other reasons, and he is still there now.

I later became a women's studies minor in college, and felt a lot of guilt for not even attempting to press charges in my past. In at least three other situations, I became violent toward men for grabbing my waist/butt/etc (somehow acceptable for some at a club) and I was the one that was no longer invited out with friends.

The one time that I did call the police to make a report for an assault, there were no cameras in the gas station where it occurred (it was the attendant) and my report was just filed and nothing came of it. It's sad to say that it still felt better than doing nothing.

These stories coming from everyone make me so angry and sad. I don't want my daughter going through what so many of us have gone through, or worse. Sometimes it feels like the world has gone crazy.
Me either.

Jesus, date rape is so common. I guess I didn't know...
It's far too common. What happened to me happened just before date rape drugs became the norm. I cringed when I heard about it. There goes thousands more...

I don't leave my drink, I let no know that I do not know and trust buy my drink, and I let no one near my drink. A friend of mine (in her 40's) was drugged on a work trip to Florida 2 years ago, in her hotel bar. Thankfully she left as soon as she felt odd, and went to her hotel room.
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I wish didn't remember. I wish didn't remember her and him holding me down, covering my mouth, while he assaulted me. I wish I didn't know the shame and guilt you can feel at age 12. I wish didn't remember the fear of telling what happened, knowing someone could, probably would get killed. I don't know where my perpetrators are. I remember what they did and their names, not their faces.

I am fine most of the time, now, but I wasn't for a long time emotionally nor physically. I didn't say anything to anyone until I was 18. Unfortunately that took a toll physically. I don't think my body has ever really recovered.
As a mother of a little girl, I'm just curious about what your mother might have been able to do or say to make you feel more comfortable coming fwd w/ this after it happened? How were you able to hide the physical and emotional wounds from the attack?

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What the hell is going on here?


I was also assaulted thirteen years ago by someone who I knew well, but I suspect that I was drugged and the entire memory is so hazy. What I do recall is months later, calling my older brother in hysterics as the scene became clearer to me. I never did anything about it, but my assailant ended up in jail for other reasons, and he is still there now.

I later became a women's studies minor in college, and felt a lot of guilt for not even attempting to press charges in my past. In at least three other situations, I became violent toward men for grabbing my waist/butt/etc (somehow acceptable for some at a club) and I was the one that was no longer invited out with friends.

The one time that I did call the police to make a report for an assault, there were no cameras in the gas station where it occurred (it was the attendant) and my report was just filed and nothing came of it. It's sad to say that it still felt better than doing nothing.

These stories coming from everyone make me so angry and sad. I don't want my daughter going through what so many of us have gone through, or worse. Sometimes it feels like the world has gone crazy.
Me either.

Jesus, date rape is so common. I guess I didn't know...
It's far too common. What happened to me happened just before date rape drugs became the norm. I cringed when I heard about it. There goes thousands more...

I don't leave my drink, I let no know that I do not know and trust buy my drink, and I let no one near my drink. A friend of mine (in her 40's) was drugged on a work trip to Florida 2 years ago, in her hotel bar. Thankfully she left as soon as she felt odd, and went to her hotel room.

I have told my daughter ad nauseum to never leave a drink or accept a drink from anyone. If they want to buy you one, stand there while they do and have the bartender hand it to you.
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I'm sorry to all of you who've had to endure this. It really makes me sick. I know it happens, a lot. It just makes my blood boil thinking about it. I was molested also by my stepuncle but it was very little (no rape) and I don't think it has affected me directly. Men don't understand how often this happens and why mothers are so protective. I was not allowed to spend the night anywhere outside my home except once when I was 15 and then finally 17 when I went to summer scholars program. My parents never went on vacation or anywhere without us.

I hate it when people try to say that women here have equal or good enough rights, we don't. That's why **** like this happens and not only to the attackers not get caught but the victims get attacked in one way or the other. This also might be why some of us come across as 'militant' feminists or 'manhaters'. When men do the same thing, except they don't get labelled or put on a lower ranking.

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I wish didn't remember. I wish didn't remember her and him holding me down, covering my mouth, while he assaulted me. I wish I didn't know the shame and guilt you can feel at age 12. I wish didn't remember the fear of telling what happened, knowing someone could, probably would get killed. I don't know where my perpetrators are. I remember what they did and their names, not their faces.

I am fine most of the time, now, but I wasn't for a long time emotionally nor physically. I didn't say anything to anyone until I was 18. Unfortunately that took a toll physically. I don't think my body has ever really recovered.
As a mother of a little girl, I'm just curious about what your mother might have been able to do or say to make you feel more comfortable coming fwd w/ this after it happened? How were you able to hide the physical and emotional wounds from the attack?

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So saddened to hear all of these stories. It really hurts my heart.
SL, please talk to you daughter about good and bad touches. That family members, friends, acquaintances are capable of doing these of these actions. Let her know that no matter what, come to you. My mom never talked to me about these things. The sad part is, when I finally told her what happened to me. She disclosed it happened to her too. O_ O
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I know someone who grandmother was raped when she was a child, her own mother blamed her for wearing a skirt. her mother was raped as a child and became pragnant with her. No charges were filed because of the stigma and shame. she was then sexually assualted my a stepgrandfather and stepfather. once again charges were not filed and mother continued to see the man who tried to rape her daughter. It took her year to understand that what happened to her, her mother, and grandmother was not their fault and it was wrong. she says that the abuse will stop with her. She talks to her younger sisters and brothers about respecting others and how easy it is to destroy someones life.
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((HUGS)) to you all.

The craziest thing is that I'm sure I was drugged by the bar manager. He was friends with the person I was lunching with. There were so many knowing glances that were shared between them before things really got hazy. I was also very young and they were much older. In hindsight, it seemed like a setup.

After that, anytime I felt the feeling that others are sharing inside information, I always leave. I demanded to be dropped off out of nowhere a few times, just because I felt so paranoid.

I have told my daughter more times than she cares to hear about good touches, bad touches, etc. I will continue to drill as many protective measures into her head without being overly militant. It's so common for us to go through these things, and it took me so long to be able to just talk about it without feeling embarrassed or ashamed.
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