Portia & Ellen don't want kids

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I took RCWs comment to mean regular, non celebrity people who do that. No? Maybe?
I am sure there are plenty who want to show off their babies, but when you have several people pushing, shoving, shouting, clicking away and generally scaring the crap out of the baby, then I can't say that I blame them for not wanting to feed the dragon.
Originally Posted by juanab
That's exactly it. Yes, they are in the public eye due to their jobs, but I also can not get what makes the public feel like they are entitled to photos that come from stalking, fear, and intimidation.

That would have to scare the crap out of a parent, and the child.
Originally Posted by Fifi.G
I agree, but also...(see my long, wordy rant post above)
What I really dont get is why do people get so excited about looking at strangers babies? Like it's such a big deal..i dont get it. And most newborns are weird looking and most of the babies ive happened to see at the store magazine arent even cute.
Originally Posted by Josephine


I like to look at babies. Especially new babies. I think it's a very human thing to want to see babies. Young parents used to be proud to show off their babies. Now there are a bunch of entitled asholes who work so hard to keep people from looking at their Precious-Little-Bundle that they'll put a blanket over the kid's face or seal them up in those infant carseat hoodie things.

It makes me think: Screw you...who do you think you are, Michael Jackson?...I don't even want to look at your ugly baby anymore if you're going to be such a jerk about it.
Originally Posted by RedCatWaves
Serious question: Would you feel the same if you had 25 people with cameras, following you around, screaming things, and trying to get a picture of your baby?

I have all kinds of problems with the methods.
Originally Posted by Fifi.G


Most of those celebrities actually contact the papparazzi before they go out and tell them where they'll be. They WANT to be mobbed. How else would 25 paps know to show up at Starbucks when Brittney is buying a super-mocha-grande-chip-latte with her 2 little brats? There are ways to live a private life, and plenty of very high profile people manage to live private lives. They do it by not being publicity hounds and inviting that sort of nonsense. They do it by being polite and using common sense, not acting like entitled j*ckasses.
I like looking at pics of celebrities (w/ or w/out their babies) if they have great fashion sense or great hair or for some other specific reason that interests me. But seldom do I give a crap enough to want to read about their family planning decisions.
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I took RCWs comment to mean regular, non celebrity people who do that. No? Maybe?
Originally Posted by iroc

I was talking about regular people. WTF regular people feel the need to hermetically seal their Precious-Bundles away from the prying eyes of strangers, I'll never understand.

These two crack me up...they haven't revealed their kids' names and keep them covered all the time. They are mid-level "stars", not huge. Um...no one cares that much about your kids. Get over yourself already.

In some instances I think they have to expect some level of invasion of privacy. They are celebrities. Thats part of the job. Hence the term being in the public eye.

And I think they do things that invites people into their private life even more and that creates a normalcy with invading their privacy.

The dozen celebrities who have been on the cover of magazines baring their pregnant bodies think they're sending a message about beautiful pregnant bodies, but they're also sending a message about not respecting a persons private life. Reality shows are another thing that erases boundary lines.

Gloria Steinem made a statement regarding the comments about Kim Kardashians pregnancy and weight gain. She went on about how nobody has the right to comment on a women's body during pregnancy, and her body is no ones business, and on. While I agree, I also think, this is a woman who became famous by her body being plastered all over magazines in various body revealing outfits. Has a sex tape. Has multiple reality shows. They film themselves taking pregnancy tests, getting medical procedures, going in the delivery room...How can this person suddenly demand privacy and actually expect people to respect that? I feel bad for the invasion of privacy for many people, but I think its becoming hard to draw the line on who and what its okay for. And this is what causes problems for those who actually want some privacy. Everyone deserves to have privacy, but when you open yourself up to so much public viewing, people aren't going to respect your privacy bc they arent used to giving it to you. Even if its not right, the public is going to feel entitled to your private life. And then it starts to extend to all celebrities.

I think children should be off limits, no matter what.


And end of rant.
Originally Posted by iroc
The ones who put themselves out there are fair game as far as I am concerned, the Kardashians and their ilk. There are those who go out to promote their movie or TV show, but otherwise want to be left alone. Why should they be put on display because of their chosen profession?

ITA about the children. Leave them out of it.

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I like to look at babies. Especially new babies. I think it's a very human thing to want to see babies. Young parents used to be proud to show off their babies. Now there are a bunch of entitled asholes who work so hard to keep people from looking at their Precious-Little-Bundle that they'll put a blanket over the kid's face or seal them up in those infant carseat hoodie things.

It makes me think: Screw you...who do you think you are, Michael Jackson?...I don't even want to look at your ugly baby anymore if you're going to be such a jerk about it.
Originally Posted by RedCatWaves
Serious question: Would you feel the same if you had 25 people with cameras, following you around, screaming things, and trying to get a picture of your baby?

I have all kinds of problems with the methods.
Originally Posted by Fifi.G


Most of those celebrities actually contact the papparazzi before they go out and tell them where they'll be. They WANT to be mobbed. How else would 25 paps know to show up at Starbucks when Brittney is buying a super-mocha-grande-chip-latte with her 2 little brats? There are ways to live a private life, and plenty of very high profile people manage to live private lives. They do it by not being publicity hounds and inviting that sort of nonsense. They do it by being polite and using common sense, not acting like entitled j*ckasses.
Originally Posted by RedCatWaves
Some do, and some do not. Plenty have shared stories about their children being hounded and terrified. That crosses a line, imo. Also, celeb gossip sites have lines for tips on where celebrities are, and what they are doing, and also offer good money to anyone who can provide them with tips. That is also a common way that the find out.

Regardless, there is sadly a market (demand) for useless crap like this.

Iroc, I read your post and agree with reality tv, 100% It has created more of a trend to know what everyone is doing, at every moment.
When I hear terms like "hipster" I think, who told cliques they could leave high school??

Again, see Jodie Fosters speech. Lol.

"I am not Honey Boo Boo Child"
When I hear terms like "hipster" I think, who told cliques they could leave high school??

I took RCWs comment to mean regular, non celebrity people who do that. No? Maybe?
Originally Posted by iroc

I was talking about regular people. WTF regular people feel the need to hermetically seal their Precious-Bundles away from the prying eyes of strangers, I'll never understand.

These two crack me up...they haven't revealed their kids' names and keep them covered all the time. They are mid-level "stars", not huge. Um...no one cares that much about your kids. Get over yourself already.

Originally Posted by RedCatWaves


OMG IT'S BILL AND SOOKIE!!!!












I forgot they were a) married b) had a baby c) and I still don't care.....get on muh hbo, I don't care about your real life.
Bill (or the actor who plays Bill) has two other kids from two other women, and nobody cared about them either.
I took RCWs comment to mean regular, non celebrity people who do that. No? Maybe?
Originally Posted by iroc

I was talking about regular people. WTF regular people feel the need to hermetically seal their Precious-Bundles away from the prying eyes of strangers, I'll never understand.

These two crack me up...they haven't revealed their kids' names and keep them covered all the time. They are mid-level "stars", not huge. Um...no one cares that much about your kids. Get over yourself already.

Originally Posted by RedCatWaves


OMG IT'S BILL AND SOOKIE!!!!












I forgot they were a) married b) had a baby c) and I still don't care.....get on muh hbo, I don't care about your real life.
Originally Posted by murrrcat
^ That is the truth right there. Bring on the True Blood!


But I do recall seeing the birth of their babies on the news (yes, the news). They were born premature, and were in the hospital for months. Hope they are well, and moving on...
When I hear terms like "hipster" I think, who told cliques they could leave high school??

she had twins? I had no idea, I barely knew she was pregnant it was more of "did you know sookie in real life is pregnant?" ...."did you say eric northman" .."No" "not listening"
she had twins? I had no idea, I barely knew she was pregnant it was more of "did you know sookie in real life is pregnant?" ...."did you say eric northman" .."No" "not listening"
Originally Posted by murrrcat
Exactly, but yes. She had twins. I had forgotten she was pregnant and then I saw the news story. She naturally delivered the babies, they had several health problems, and were in the hospital for a long time. They covered it when the babies were finally released.

My little cousins went through the same. They get lung infections every other day.
When I hear terms like "hipster" I think, who told cliques they could leave high school??

What I really dont get is why do people get so excited about looking at strangers babies? Like it's such a big deal..i dont get it. And most newborns are weird looking and most of the babies ive happened to see at the store magazine arent even cute.
Originally Posted by Josephine


I like to look at babies. Especially new babies. I think it's a very human thing to want to see babies. Young parents used to be proud to show off their babies. Now there are a bunch of entitled asholes who work so hard to keep people from looking at their Precious-Little-Bundle that they'll put a blanket over the kid's face or seal them up in those infant carseat hoodie things.

It makes me think: Screw you...who do you think you are, Michael Jackson?...I don't even want to look at your ugly baby anymore if you're going to be such a jerk about it.
Originally Posted by RedCatWaves
I get that a lot of women like babies. But why are celebrity babies so hyped up? O well.
In some instances I think they have to expect some level of invasion of privacy. They are celebrities. Thats part of the job. Hence the term being in the public eye.

And I think they do things that invites people into their private life even more and that creates a normalcy with invading their privacy.

The dozen celebrities who have been on the cover of magazines baring their pregnant bodies think they're sending a message about beautiful pregnant bodies, but they're also sending a message about not respecting a persons private life. Reality shows are another thing that erases boundary lines.

Gloria Steinem made a statement regarding the comments about Kim Kardashians pregnancy and weight gain. She went on about how nobody has the right to comment on a women's body during pregnancy, and her body is no ones business, and on. While I agree, I also think, this is a woman who became famous by her body being plastered all over magazines in various body revealing outfits. Has a sex tape. Has multiple reality shows. They film themselves taking pregnancy tests, getting medical procedures, going in the delivery room...How can this person suddenly demand privacy and actually expect people to respect that? I feel bad for the invasion of privacy for many people, but I think its becoming hard to draw the line on who and what its okay for. And this is what causes problems for those who actually want some privacy. Everyone deserves to have privacy, but when you open yourself up to so much public viewing, people aren't going to respect your privacy bc they arent used to giving it to you. Even if its not right, the public is going to feel entitled to your private life. And then it starts to extend to all celebrities.

I think children should be off limits, no matter what.


And end of rant.
Originally Posted by iroc
I agree, I don't feel sorry for people who have cameras in their face. In america, they chose and wanted that and get paid well for it. Their kids can decide to go with it or fade away.
I read that 80% of women want kids, but only 41% of lesbians do. More gay men than lesbians want kids! It's something with the hormones. I'm bi and probably can't have kids. Not all women who have PCOS (hormone imbalance) are gay/bi, but those who are actually born with it are 30% more likely to be gay/bi. It's rarer to be born with it and much harder to treat that way tho those that get it from diabetes/being overweight may have a pre-disposition. My ring finger is actually taller than my index just like in a man's (Women's are the opposite.). Men who have high testosterone are more likely to have daughters with PCOS.


Many gays/bis get offended by my saying that, but it's the truth. I've lived this - can't run from it. Even with PCOS' awful symptoms (Recently spent a night in the ER.) I wouldn't change it. I don't want kids. The thought of it repulses me. I don't mind kids/babies, but my bf likes them more than I do, and he's had a vasectomy. I basically told him he has to do that to prove he doesn't want them b/c we've gone through too many scares when I thought I was pregnant (He'd been considering it for a long time.). PCOS = off cycles. I have spells when I think it would be nice to have a child around. But I'd adopt an older one. Actually bearing children... Ahhh... Why??

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