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Old 04-25-2013, 04:07 PM   #281
 
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LOL and she calls us horrible people

How can I say goodbye P.L.G.
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Old 04-25-2013, 07:08 PM   #282
 
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Disgusting. How is that proving any point?
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Old 04-25-2013, 09:21 PM   #283
 
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A DEAD-BABY picture!!!!!???

This would probably be the very first time I m seriously glad someone was banned...
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Old 04-25-2013, 11:12 PM   #284
 
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It makes no sense that a woman, say, pushed down the stairs during pregnancy by her boyfriend resulting in the child dying can press charges, yet the same woman with the same child inside her could kill the kid herself completely legally. If you kill a pregnant woman, you are charged with double murder. Yet that same child could be killed by the mother herself and everything is honky dory. It is not consistent.
I know this thread has moved on (and kinda ended) but I wanted to discuss this point further because its always made me uncomfortable.

I've been a pregnant woman. I'm also a professional chemist, a downhill skier, a mountain biker. I drive a car to work. I do things every day that can potentially be a risk to my unborn baby. I've always worried that the extension of the above would be that if a woman did something (unintentionally, maybe irresponsibly) that led to miscarriage or stillbirth, that she could somehow be charged with murder?

To me its always seemed that if you kill a PERSON - pregnant or not - the charge should be the same.
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Old 04-25-2013, 11:59 PM   #285
 
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It makes no sense that a woman, say, pushed down the stairs during pregnancy by her boyfriend resulting in the child dying can press charges, yet the same woman with the same child inside her could kill the kid herself completely legally. If you kill a pregnant woman, you are charged with double murder. Yet that same child could be killed by the mother herself and everything is honky dory. It is not consistent.
I know this thread has moved on (and kinda ended) but I wanted to discuss this point further because its always made me uncomfortable.

I've been a pregnant woman. I'm also a professional chemist, a downhill skier, a mountain biker. I drive a car to work. I do things every day that can potentially be a risk to my unborn baby. I've always worried that the extension of the above would be that if a woman did something (unintentionally, maybe irresponsibly) that led to miscarriage or stillbirth, that she could somehow be charged with murder?

To me its always seemed that if you kill a PERSON - pregnant or not - the charge should be the same.


It's definitely considered to be a slippery slope for those on the pro-choice side. We do charge some women for endangering their fetuses...but we generally withhold that for serious drug abusers who give birth to drug addicted babies. And we charge them after a live birth, not before. I don't think law enforcement generally goes after women for stillbirth, although the danger is always there that we could arrest and imprison a pregnant woman for sneaking a cigarette.
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Old 06-09-2013, 01:32 AM   #286
 
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Well, I am glad I missed all of that.

I came across this a few moments ago and thought I would post it. It does have a few grim descriptions about how and where the babies were found.

http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/3405039/

I like that so many people have come forward, asking to give the children a proper burial. Considering the nature of this case, a quiet, private and respectful graveside service would be nice, if one can assure that is what the babies would get. I don't know exactly how the M.E would make a decision om that, and I am sure some 'less than' groups have asked, but...

It's a good thought.
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Old 06-09-2013, 01:05 PM   #287
 
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^ To add:

Anyone who tweeted in a request would be an immediate NO!! I don't think so. That's really not an appropriate way to inquire.
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