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The New Black, what are you confused about? Is it the population references?
Originally Posted by ElizabethFaith
I didn't know I was part Pygmy! Pygmy?! And I'm part Middle Eastern (West Asian), melanesian and austronesian? There's next to no Indian, which I've always been told we were. Plus SSA is just lumped together although there are lots of distinct cultures there. But eastern Siberian is oddly specific.
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I want to do 23and me because of the medical results. For those of you who are surprised by your results, do you think it's possible that maybe you didn't inherit certain ancestral traits although those genes are among your ancestors? For instance, you may have Native American ancestors, but you didn't inherit any traits from these ancestors. I guess this may be more common among people who have had a lot of mixing in their ancestry because there are more genes to choose from so some are not chosen.
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UH... I got some gedmatch results back. I guess this is supposed to be for me??? But I'm cornfused!:

MDLP World-22 Admixture Proportions
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Population
Pygmy 3.41%
West-Asian 2.47%
North-European-Mesolithic 2.23%
Indo-Tibetan 1.26%
Mesoamerican 0.76%
Arctic-Amerind -
South-America_Amerind 0.20%
Indian -
North-Siberean 0.29%
Atlantic_Mediterranean_Neolithic 9.31%
Samoedic 0.87%
Indo-Iranian 0.10%
East-Siberean -
North-East-European 12.56%
South-African -
North-Amerind -
Sub-Saharian 62.05%
East-South-Asian -
Near_East 3.73%
Melanesian 0.12%
Paleo-Siberian 0.27%
Austronesian 0.39%
Originally Posted by The New Black
This is so interesting! You are the world in one genome

It is amazing how much we don't know about ourselves, either who we are (TNB) or are not (also TNB; Amandacurls). I'm intrigued how much of my own family's lore is accurate.

I'm going to try to persuade as many relatives as possible to take the DNA test with me, to get a fuller picture. Maybe I'll give them as holiday gifts - would that be appropriate, or would it seem intrusive?
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I want to do 23and me because of the medical results. For those of you who are surprised by your results, do you think it's possible that maybe you didn't inherit certain ancestral traits although those genes are among your ancestors? For instance, you may have Native American ancestors, but you didn't inherit any traits from these ancestors. I guess this may be more common among people who have had a lot of mixing in their ancestry because there are more genes to choose from so some are not chosen.
Originally Posted by multicultcurly
Well said, multicultcurly! My great great grandmother apparently had Native ancestry, but I didn't inherit any Native ancestry due to genetic recombination. There are many cases where the child doesn't inherit a specific ancestry but the parent does. And I highly recommend testing with 23andMe! At $99, you'll get your money's worth considering the wealth of health and ancestral information included!

The New Black, Pygmy shows in my results from Gedmatch as well! And regarding the little NA ancestry that was represented, Multicultcurly provided a very good explanation. Could you possibly test one of your parents or a generation or two closer to your Native ancestor?

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Last edited by ElizabethFaith; 10-06-2013 at 07:15 PM.
Have any of you heard of Ancestry's new ethnic breakdown? There was a preview available for some customers on September 12th. It's scheduled to be released to all customers soon.

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My hair has a mix of low/med/high porosity, and it's medium textured (some are still fine, though!)

CG since Sept. 2011
Cowash: Vo5/Suave Naturals/Tresemme Naturals*
RO/LI: GVPCB*, Tresemme Naturals*
Low-poo: Shea Moisture Moisture Retention
Stylers: KCKT*, Coconut Oil, Olive Oil, Grapeseed Oil, Honey*

* represents my HGs!!! Finally!!!
No but I'll look into it!
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I read a report on (I think) NPR last year about melungeons (this used to be a slur, by the way). Apparently they are descended from the first group of indentured servants in the colonies: primarily black males and white females. Then because of laws outlawing miscegenation, they could only marry within the group. The group started to say they were of Portugese or Native American origin because of discrimination they would face for having African ancestry. Anyway, last year when these research findings were published, many people in Appalachia who identified as melungeons were not happy.

I'll try to find the original article.

Oh well, I can't access that journal, but it is referenced here. http://www.denverpost.com/breakingne...ias-melungeons
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Last edited by curlyarca; 01-11-2014 at 10:45 AM. Reason: article link
^ There are different theories on that. You have the Melungeons (word that was turned around and used as a slur, and more predominately in areas of Kentucky, and has been proudly reclaimed) who claimed they had no AA ancestry at all and claimed they came from the Lost Colony like the Lumbee's. Then you have a few blood lines that are NA with no AA ties. That comes down to the Gibson families and a couple others. I am related to the the Gibson's. It has caused an uproar with some people. Just like the Lumbee Project and there have been some rather interesting findings with the Cherokee.

Melungeons were also called Gypsies in some areas. Travelers, and several identified as that, but there are people mentioned in NC history, in the 1500's, with gray eyes, and dark skin who spoke english and were Presbyterian.
When I hear terms like "hipster" I think, who told cliques they could leave high school??


Last edited by Fifi.G; 01-11-2014 at 10:47 AM.
I'm going to test my dad soon. I'm trying to prove whether or not my paternal great-great-grandmother was partly Native American. I must say that genealogical research has become a hobby of mine, lol!
Originally Posted by ElizabethFaith
It is a very interesting hobby. I am loving the findings. It is helping piece together some mysteries.
When I hear terms like "hipster" I think, who told cliques they could leave high school??

UH... I got some gedmatch results back. I guess this is supposed to be for me??? But I'm cornfused!:

MDLP World-22 Admixture Proportions
????

Population
Pygmy 3.41%
West-Asian 2.47%
North-European-Mesolithic 2.23%
Indo-Tibetan 1.26%
Mesoamerican 0.76%
Arctic-Amerind -
South-America_Amerind 0.20%
Indian -
North-Siberean 0.29%
Atlantic_Mediterranean_Neolithic 9.31%
Samoedic 0.87%
Indo-Iranian 0.10%
East-Siberean -
North-East-European 12.56%
South-African -
North-Amerind -
Sub-Saharian 62.05%
East-South-Asian -
Near_East 3.73%
Melanesian 0.12%
Paleo-Siberian 0.27%
Austronesian 0.39%
Originally Posted by The New Black
That is pretty amazing!

Several people are told they have NA ancestry and then find they don't. It's incredibly common, especially when oral history comes into play.

I was very sure about mine because of the area I live in, which ups the odds, and knew which families I am related to thanks to Uncles who loved genealogy and started putting together trees years ago.

There are still questions to be asked, simply for my own curiosity. I've met too many people who have spent their life digging for a way in. I just want to know my family. I'm pretty sure Cherokee is not the only tribe in my tree.
When I hear terms like "hipster" I think, who told cliques they could leave high school??

I'm not sure if I mentioned it in here or not, but I have had quite a laugh reading about some area families struggles with genealogy. Like others, very limited records were kept, some came to American in Indentured Servitude, and only basics were later known. There were 2 brothers in the family known as magnificent story tellers. Some women in the family were trying to work on a family tree and asked them if they knew anything about it. Well they spun a yarn a mile long. They had no mean intent, they were simply pulling their cousins legs, and the women had no idea. Little did they know that some in the family would write all this down and later publish a book about it. Haha. Oh yeesh! After they started getting DNA testing that had to go back to square one of several of the branches. At least they have a concrete starting point now.
When I hear terms like "hipster" I think, who told cliques they could leave high school??

I recall first hearing about the melungeons. I was fascinated.
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It's still a fascinating subject. I've enjoyed reading several of the articles I have came across about that topic and the Lumbee's.

I was always told growing up that there was AA on my grandfathers side of the family, along with NA. Some said it in rather impolite ways. The Gibson were a family that was constantly pointed out as liars about their NA heritage. It turns out they are one of the few who actually have it. I have came across some rather interesting stories about that. The family is spread out through the mountains and other parts of the US. Several went further down the trail and several went wherever they culled find work.
When I hear terms like "hipster" I think, who told cliques they could leave high school??

My first cousin just had a test done on my his moms (my moms sisters) side of the family. I'm a mutt

Scottish & Irish and a sprinkle of Welsh have the highest percentage (no surprise & score one for the boy from Liverpool) followed by Scandinavian (Finnish/Swedish), Russian (score one for the doctors), German, Central Asian and Native American.

The test my cousin had gave specific names of Rivers, which I am going to have to check out. My mom has it all scribbled down.

***ETA*** Volga-Ural were specific names of areas/rivers given.
Originally Posted by Fifi.G

Having all the info from my cousins test would have helped. Based on what he told me and what I have put together... This may go way back. The Native American, Central Asian is probably the Sami People coming from the Finn/Swedish (Russian & German based on places listed). *So no, not NA but they go by CA markers too so there could be confusion or perhapa more than one grouping. I'm pretty sure we have a 1 or more U markers, I markers and X would be the key to Sami. I need to confirm that though. I came across different links.

mtDNA Haplogroup X: An Ancient Link between Europe/Western Asia and North America?

How come Finnish and Hungarian are not Indo-European? | Antimoon Forum

"The ancestors of the Finns and Hungarians appear to have originated further east than those of the Indo-Europeans, in the western part of Siberia. Their languages belong to another linguistic family called "Uralic" which extends across most of northern Scandinavia, Russia and Siberia.

Uralic speakers have probably been in certain parts of Europe as long as Basque and Indo-European speakers have, about 8,000 years. The Magyars or Hungarians who arrived in Panonia in the 9th century A.D., from the northern part of the Volga River region, actually represent the tail end of the Uralic migrations into Europe.

Many Uralic speaking populations were eventually either absorbed or pushed back by Indo-European speaking invaders. For example, the Finns and Lapps seem to have occupied nearly all of Scandinavia before Germanic tribes began arriving there around 300 B.C. The Finns once extended as far south as Poland too before the Slavs began expanding."

Haplogroup I1 (Y-DNA) - Eupedia

^ Lomg, but a good guide on European groups for anyone interested.

ETA: I came across one talking about settlements in central asia and the Sami language/Lappish being frrom Central Asia. Maybe this explains why Estonians keep seinding me FB friend requests. Probably not but it's weird.
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Last edited by Fifi.G; 02-09-2015 at 09:49 PM.
ARRRRGGGGHHHH! Sami are V not X. I think the author of one article was confused but it's easy to do but they were right in part. I still have to check H. It's in Orkney Islands and I'm pretty sure I had some family there. Lard. The places R1b leads you. I need to know more.


ETA: I need to go to bed rather than checking out the Basque connection but I can't help myself.

I also enjoy all the lost tribes theories people have


**** Hopefully I will get this isht straighted out. I went back thru some of old FB messages last night and figured out my train of thought on a few things. Some family members of mine, on my maternal grandmothers side, tested as a match for the X Woman found in a Denisovan Cave in the Altai Mountains/Sibera. Others have been found in South Central Asia/Siberia that were from the Western range of Eurasians. So I want to see if any of this was mentioned in my 1st cousins DNA results. I only have partial info and can't read some.

* Side note on the link. I agree with the multi-regional theory more than strict Out of Africa. It's makes more sense. It will be interesting to see how the theories evolve.
When I hear terms like "hipster" I think, who told cliques they could leave high school??


Last edited by Fifi.G; 02-10-2015 at 11:26 AM.
I know they have found out more since this article but it's still the pretty nifty basics. It fascinates me, regardless, but even more so when cousins are a match. We traveled in clumps and have always been where we were (wherever that may be). Lol

Meet X-woman: a possible new species of human - life - 24 March 2010 - New Scientist

ETA: Maybe they will find a group of mysterious bird people in Central Asia that will explain the extra free floating bones I had removed from my big toes that are normally only found in the structure of birds. I'm kidding, but yet I'm not. One of my oldest friends had the bone structure for a tail at the base of her spine. Strange and true things.
When I hear terms like "hipster" I think, who told cliques they could leave high school??


Last edited by Fifi.G; 02-10-2015 at 09:37 AM.
Have any of you checked into Surname projects after getting your results? I stumbled across 2 this morning that I have great interest in. One reads like a who's who of my area, and has almost all my family names on it including my moms & possible variations of my dads, but you have to have a family member born in the UK, father or grandfather, to join. The Scots Cluster/Model DNA is rather large and spread out. It's to clarify paths people took/history so the results should be interesting. I can tell them what happened from specific points on. lol. It's already hella interesting to me for several reasons. The other reads like a much smaller who's who's and is open to a relative with in the last 1000 to 5000 years but is I think it's also only open to men. I would love to know results of each. *The basis of the project & different DNA types/groups of people being followed is already helpful to genealogists in my area.
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Last edited by Fifi.G; 02-11-2015 at 05:25 AM.
Native American Gene Flow

(Point of several branches... you might be related but your not technically Native, which has always been a much loved story of my life. family is family)

In case anyone is interested due to their DNA test, or just for the heck of it. This is packed full of great info and links to facial reconstructions. I've seen Kennewick Man before and always marvel at his Patrick Stewart/Jean-Luc Picard-ness.

*I always think of stories from different tribes about people who were there before them. The "Moon Eyed" people who could not see in the day. Light eyes? Fair skin that burnt easily? Genetic anomoly? Then I can't help thinking of old records about people with a darker complexion and light grey eyes being seen circa 1500 NC.
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