Active Basketball Player Comes Out As Gay

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The articles I've read on this topic have almost unanimously said the fear of coming out by pro athletes isn't so much because they're afraid of what their teammates will say. It has more to do with what the public will say. Their fear is that the public will ridicule them and fans will mock them at games.
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The articles I've read on this topic have almost unanimously said the fear of coming out by pro athletes isn't so much because they're afraid of what their teammates will say. It has more to do with what the public will say. Their fear is that the public will ridicule them and fans will mock them at games.
Originally Posted by mrspoppers
I heard Charles Barkley say something to that effect. He has long stated that “every player has played with gay guys,” and "I’d rather have a gay guy who can play than a straight guy who can’t play.” The problem is the crowd reaction. That's why it's important that active players come out: the support of their own teammates makes it difficult for people to criticize and taunt them. The turning point in the acceptance of black athletes was Pee Wee Reese's famous gesture of putting his arm around Jackie Robinson. Kobe Bryant's tweet expressing support for Collins could have that same influence.

IMHO, it's a lot like gay soldiers. As anyone who has ever served in the military knows, gay men and women have always been in uniform, but have been forced to conceal their sexual orientation. As long as they can perform their duties, why should anyone care? Given the widespread problem of sexual assault of female soldiers by their male colleagues, gays should be the least of the military's concerns.

I think that shocked me more then anything!

Good for him and I hope this means others will feel comfortable enough to come out.
Originally Posted by CurlyCanadian
I'm assuming Canadian males are different? It's a big deal here.
Originally Posted by Josephine
I don't think this would be a big deal to the average Canadian male, especially in the 18-40 year old range. But maybe I'm wrong.
Originally Posted by mad scientist
I was watching a Canadian morning show today (BT) and the hosts were talking about this. After the story was read, one of them said "Really? The first? Seems so weird that we're actually talking about this!"

The same sentiment has been all over the comments sections on the few local radio stations I have on Facebook. I'm sure there are negative comments out there, but I haven't seen any. Just seems to be such a non issue here.

I go to quite a few hockey games and can't imagine the crowd saying anything about a player being gay. I feel the rest of the crowd would go after the person for it!
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I'm assuming Canadian males are different? It's a big deal here.
Originally Posted by Josephine
I don't think this would be a big deal to the average Canadian male, especially in the 18-40 year old range. But maybe I'm wrong.
Originally Posted by mad scientist
I was watching a Canadian morning show today (BT) and the hosts were talking about this. After the story was read, one of them said "Really? The first? Seems so weird that we're actually talking about this!"

The same sentiment has been all over the comments sections on the few local radio stations I have on Facebook. I'm sure there are negative comments out there, but I haven't seen any. Just seems to be such a non issue here.

I go to quite a few hockey games and can't imagine the crowd saying anything about a player being gay. I feel the rest of the crowd would go after the person for it!
Originally Posted by CurlyCanadian
I'm also a big hockey fan, and I've been very impressed at the efforts the NHL has made to support gay players. Brian Burke was a huge part of this, since he is universally respected and nobody was going to question his masculinity. (For those who don't follow the sport (probably most of you), Burke is a longtime hockey executive.) His son Brendan came out as gay, but died shortly thereafter in a car accident. His other son Patrick started a campaign called You Can Play in his honor, and it has really taken off.

I was really pleased to see my team (Islanders) kick in $10,000 of their own money for the program.

But I wouldn't be so sure about the fans. Wayne Simmonds has endured quite a few racial taunts from opposing crowds, so I wouldn't put it past anyone to use sexual orientation against a player.

ETA: It's kind of surprising that there's still a problem with homophobia in Canada, given your country's well-deserved reputation for tolerance. I recently learned that before he came to the Brooklyn Dodgers, Jackie Robinson spent a season in Montreal, where he was treated very well. If race was not an issue for Canadians in 1946, I'm surprised homosexuality would be in 2013.
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Last edited by yossarian; 04-30-2013 at 08:10 AM.

Yep I had a male coworkers tell me how it's different with guys and he wouldn't feel comfortable playing and being in a locker room with a gay athlete. Another one agreed and I'm not surprised.
Originally Posted by Josephine
They really need to get over themselves. The automatic assumption is that a gay guy is going to be attracted to you? Perhaps their fear comes from not being secure about their own sexuality.
Originally Posted by juanab
Is that the reason? Maybe. But I don't necessarily think so. Similar topics have been discussed on the board before. For example, having coed locker rooms or having someone who's MTF (in transition). I wouldn't be comfortable having a man in a locker room with me, not because I think he'd be attracted to me. It's not a rational concern but I'd still feel uncomfortable.
Originally Posted by The New Black
Yes, he told me it would be the same as if a guy would be in the locker room with me. I told him that's totally different. But he also thought I'd be uncomfortable with a lesbian woman in the locker(because I would be worried that she's checking me out). I said no, and then he said, well women are different anyways and wouldnt think that of another woman which I disagree with. I just don't care. A lot of guys are insecure. This guy is very conservative and has other backwards views so I'm not suprised by this.

Last edited by Josephine; 04-30-2013 at 09:44 AM.
But he also thought I'd be uncomfortable with a lesbian woman in the locker(because I would be worried that she's checking me out). I said no, and then he said, well women are different anyways and wouldnt think that of another woman which I disagree with. I just don't care. A lot of guys are insecure. This guy is very conservative and has other backwards views so I'm not suprised by this.
Originally Posted by Josephine
In fairness, unlike men, our bodies don't have a public broadcasting system that reveals we're attracted to someone ...

I agree that homophobes usually have other prejudices to go along with anti-gay attitudes. Haters gonna hate.

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It was on the news this morning that another player (name escapes me..) tweeted something to the effect of "wow, so many beautiful women out there and men still want men. SMH"
Whaaaat. *sideeye*
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They really need to get over themselves. The automatic assumption is that a gay guy is going to be attracted to you? Perhaps their fear comes from not being secure about their own sexuality.
Originally Posted by juanab
Is that the reason? Maybe. But I don't necessarily think so. Similar topics have been discussed on the board before. For example, having coed locker rooms or having someone who's MTF (in transition). I wouldn't be comfortable having a man in a locker room with me, not because I think he'd be attracted to me. It's not a rational concern but I'd still feel uncomfortable.
Originally Posted by The New Black
Yes, he told me it would be the same as if a guy would be in the locker room with me. I told him that's totally different. But he also thought I'd be uncomfortable with a lesbian woman in the locker(because I would be worried that she's checking me out). I said no, and then he said, well women are different anyways and wouldnt think that of another woman which I disagree with. I just don't care. A lot of guys are insecure. This guy is very conservative and has other backwards views so I'm not suprised by this.
Originally Posted by Josephine
I wonder if he realizes he has most likely already been naked in numerous locker rooms with gay men. :lol
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When are women going to face the fact that they don’t know their own bodies as well as men who have heard things?

Don Langrick
Bonsai Culturist
It was on the news this morning that another player (name escapes me..) tweeted something to the effect of "wow, so many beautiful women out there and men still want men. SMH"
Whaaaat. *sideeye*
Originally Posted by Narnia
Yeah, that was Mike Wallace, but his team (Miami Dolphins) immediately released a statement reprimanding him. I think this is the key difference in pro sports over the past few years - the commissioners, owners and managers have taken a definitive stand against racism and homophobia. When Kobe Bryant called a referee a "***got" for a call against him, the NBA fined him $100,000. A lot of teams have participated in the "It Gets Better" campaign against bullying of LGBT kids.

So at least now the powers that be have let it be known that this kind of comment is unacceptable & has consequences.
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