Twerking...

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I'm not sure how anyone can say that's not sexual with a straight face.

Very similar to the Brazilian Surra de Bunda.
Originally Posted by CurlyCanadian
Seriously.
These white girls knew exactly what they were doing, shaking their asses all up on school property.

Everyone has made really good points, but I feel that these people thought they were going to go viral and become famous like the tampon girl when actually they looked ridiculous and will miss out on prom and comercement memories. They broke rules and will have to suffer the consequences like the adults they nearly are. Just like when you break the law, you pay a fine or go to jail.

I agree, let this be a learning experience for them.

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That wasn't even suspension worthy. LoL! That was some lame a$$ twerkin.
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That wasn't even suspension worthy. LoL! That was some lame a$$ twerkin.
Originally Posted by BlackAngelPlayah

Right?? Lmafo. It looked like they were struggling.

The boy standing next to them must have felt so proud
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If the rules clearly stated no provocative dancing like freaking, then twerking would be included in that category. I think they should be able to participate in graduation. That video was sexual. It looked as if they belonged in a strip club and the guy was their pimp.

I do understand that booty shaking is part of many West African dances and it isn't always sexual. But in America, booty shaking is usually sexual or attention getting. There isn't anything wrong with that but I am disturbed by the girls being in high school and okay with this guy filming it. The guy in the video and the message at the end of "making his dream come true" made me feel that humankind has taken a step backwards since the 70s of women being more than sex objects for guys' amusement.

I am 32 and never liked that type of dancing. It never appealed to me, but this was around in the late 90s and early 2000s.

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If the rules clearly stated no provocative dancing like freaking, then twerking would be included in that category. I think they should be able to participate in graduation. That video was sexual. It looked as if they belonged in a strip club and the guy was their pimp.

I do understand that booty shaking is part of many West African dances and it isn't always sexual. But in America, booty shaking is usually sexual or attention getting. There isn't anything wrong with that but I am disturbed by the girls being in high school and okay with this guy filming it. The guy in the video and the message at the end of "making his dream come true" made me feel that humankind has taken a step backwards since the 70s of women being more than sex objects for guys' amusement.

I am 32 and never liked that type of dancing. It never appealed to me, but this was around in the late 90s and early 2000s.

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Originally Posted by multicultcurly
Oddly though. I have a sense of humor.. But I KNOW why the school found it offensive. See the guy onlooking... See the girls dancing.

And that's all I'm saying.... About that.

Now. I know school policy is school policy... But I have a feeling if the dancers resembled the guy in the video... This wouldn't have been punished so strictly.

So is the way if our country.
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If the rules clearly stated no provocative dancing like freaking, then twerking would be included in that category. I think they should be able to participate in graduation. That video was sexual. It looked as if they belonged in a strip club and the guy was their pimp.

I do understand that booty shaking is part of many West African dances and it isn't always sexual. But in America, booty shaking is usually sexual or attention getting. There isn't anything wrong with that but I am disturbed by the girls being in high school and okay with this guy filming it. The guy in the video and the message at the end of "making his dream come true" made me feel that humankind has taken a step backwards since the 70s of women being more than sex objects for guys' amusement.

I am 32 and never liked that type of dancing. It never appealed to me, but this was around in the late 90s and early 2000s.

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Originally Posted by multicultcurly
Oddly though. I have a sense of humor.. But I KNOW why the school found it offensive. See the guy onlooking... See the girls dancing.

And that's all I'm saying.... About that.

Now. I know school policy is school policy... But I have a feeling if the dancers resembled the guy in the video... This wouldn't have been punished so strictly.

So is the way if our country.
Originally Posted by BlackAngelPlayah
I agree with you about the racial dynamics being a factor. I would hope if the majority of the girls were dark skin black girls, the outrage would be the.same, but I realize it wouldn't be for everyone.

I also think that in mainstream American culture, teens are hypersexualized in media but sexual behavior, even the self-respecting kind, is viewed as bad and low-class, so this is another factor in the harsh punishment.

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Keeping them from participating in graduation ceremonies is just wrong IMO. Think of all the work they put in and their parents put in to get them to that point. This is definitely not ok after 13+ years of work to graduate. My kids aren't geniuses. They work hard to get the grades they get. I would be raising hell if they were denied graduation ceremonies over a dance video, no matter how provocative anyone might think it is.
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I've been thinking about this whole thing and just not sure how I feel about it all. The actual dance is ugly and vulgar and quite weird when done upside down against a wall (don't get it). That said, every generation has some stupid thing that they 'do'.

I would be ashamed if any of these were my kids. But then, I notice that most girls go to the prom nowadays dressed like low class call girls so I'm guessing modern day parents don't really care about such things.
Originally Posted by jeepcurlygurl
My 16yo girl and 17yo boy both said its done upside down because you can get more movement from the hips/butt.

I hate clothes shopping with my 16yo daughter. The clothes are so trashy. 1/2" inseam is very common. It's ridiculous. And shopping for party dresses? Forget it.
I'm so thankful she does t want to dress like this yet.
Rules r rules they hv to face the circumstances responsibly , imagine if theyl weren't punished and they got away with it to prom..hell yea everybody will be twerking in prom , skool everywhere..! No man they did that by their own will they hv to deal with the results.
These white girls knew exactly what they were doing, shaking their asses all up on school property.
Originally Posted by LoveInBetween
They sure did. It was planned. Which is why the majority of them went to school that day wearing black leggings and booty shorts.

Since they lost their privileges they want to feign ignorance. They threw the cameraman under the bus. They didn't know what he was going to do with the video. Yea, right! What did they think he was going to do with it? Erase it?

West African culture? Sexism? Racism? How about they broke the rules. Plain and simple.

Many of us remember a time when school faculty and administrators turned their heads when we were doing such things. If they didn't see it, it didn't happen. Times have changed. Social media busted them. If the faculty did not see what was going on that day, someone brought it to their attention. They had to address it because these idiots aired their dirty laundry for the whole world to see.

White girls are not the only ones being punished for breaking the rules. In Ohio and Michigan, male students were suspended for making a Harlem shake video and airing it. Just a couple of years ago, students were being suspended for Tebowing.

It's not that deep. Break the rules in school and you are punished.
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I work in a high school. Kids skip classes for various reasons every day. They are not banned from graduation. Hell, often it gets overlooked or it's just a detention.

Yes these kids broke the rules and stupidly put it up for the world to see. Suspend them. I'm even fine with the missing of prom, since usually dances are seen as a privilege and students usually have to be in good standing to attend.

What bothers me is the banning from graduation. I don't believe students should be banned from participating unless they've done something particularly grievous. Making a stupid video? Not so much. Make them film an apology and air it at graduation.

Did that other kid file a complaint? Can they claim harassment if he didn't?

As for dancing rules. While yes there is a line, often you don't know until you see it but it's like administrators who make these rules have no idea whats going on and expect kids to still know how to lindy and waltz (which as also considered obscene and lewd when it began) or line dance. Maybe they need a little instruction on what is or not ok dancing for school dances. Yes, it probably should be discussed at home. But when teens are surrounded by conflicting messages, a little instruction can't hurt.

I also grew up dancing. Often young students are taught how to isolate hips and ribcage to "pop" them when needed. What about young kids who do ballroom competitions in tango and rhumba? They are asked to move in ways most adults would consider provocative.
I agree that the punishment is suitable. I don't consider twerking dancing when the only thing you do is shake your butt. Dance is an expressive art in all of it's forms from ballroom to hiphop. If we would have done this at my high school, the punishment would have been the same or worse. There are videos of children doing this and thinking it's cute, it's not. There are who are famous because of twerking why? There is a video of a father spanking his two daughters because he caught them making a twerk video. Everyone made a big deal out of it and said he was abusing them because he used a belt and used force. I don't think it's slut slamming, the punishment to be suspended and not participate in graduation and prom is a common punishment, when I was in high school kids received it for fighting,talking back, and ditching class. Males and females alike.
Originally Posted by Always@night
That's what I'm saying. Twerking is not about dancing. It's a purely sexual thing. Why else would it be their ass that they're shaking?
Originally Posted by sKorpio1190
Yes but so? Isn't that what teenager start doing? It's just a dance. As RCW pointed out, every generation has their dirty/provactive dance, it's normal. Also I'm assuming they weren't humping on each other and just shaking their asses. Big deal.
I agree that the punishment is suitable. I don't consider twerking dancing when the only thing you do is shake your butt. Dance is an expressive art in all of it's forms from ballroom to hiphop. If we would have done this at my high school, the punishment would have been the same or worse. There are videos of children doing this and thinking it's cute, it's not. There are who are famous because of twerking why? There is a video of a father spanking his two daughters because he caught them making a twerk video. Everyone made a big deal out of it and said he was abusing them because he used a belt and used force. I don't think it's slut slamming, the punishment to be suspended and not participate in graduation and prom is a common punishment, when I was in high school kids received it for fighting,talking back, and ditching class. Males and females alike.
Originally Posted by Always@night
That's what I'm saying. Twerking is not about dancing. It's a purely sexual thing. Why else would it be their ass that they're shaking?
Originally Posted by sKorpio1190
Yes but so? Isn't that what teenager start doing? It's just a dance. As RCW pointed out, every generation has their dirty/provactive dance, it's normal. Also I'm assuming they weren't humping on each other and just shaking their asses. Big deal.
Originally Posted by Josephine
Yes they weren't humping each other.

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i saw clips of the video. I dont believe the girls had no clue what was going on. Unless that was a school uniform, they were dressed to twerk. But they should be allowed to walk across the stage on graduation. i understand they broke the rules, but the punishment is too extreme imo.
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^^Yeah, it's pretty bad! These kids were dumb to break school rules to make this horrible video.

Twerking is definitely a sexualized and objectifying dance. Watch a REAL twerking video and you'll see. Does it have cultural ties to dances from Africa? Sure, but let's not play here. These days it's more culturally relevant to the strip club and dirty rap lyrics. Twerking has never been popular in the mainstream, until trap music glorifying strip club culture reached suburbia. Just sayin.
Originally Posted by Layali
I agree.
This strip club culture has had a huge impact on music (Af American) and fashion, and these influences are being normalized on tv.

I don't think girls should aspire to or glamorize it and I'm glad the school isn't taking it lightly. (Tho I don't agree w/ the punishment.)
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I'm all for teens (responsibly) exploring their new found sexuality...but there is a time and place for everything. And those teens learned that 6th period, in the school gym (or wherever they were) was neither the time nor place.

Also from the articles I read, the only thing that was definite was the suspension. School officials refused to comment on any other punishments. I think think it's very likely that they'll be able to walk @ graduation, especially considering that most of the students were juniors.
^^Yeah, it's pretty bad! These kids were dumb to break school rules to make this horrible video.

Twerking is definitely a sexualized and objectifying dance. Watch a REAL twerking video and you'll see. Does it have cultural ties to dances from Africa? Sure, but let's not play here. These days it's more culturally relevant to the strip club and dirty rap lyrics. Twerking has never been popular in the mainstream, until trap music glorifying strip club culture reached suburbia. Just sayin.
Originally Posted by Layali
I agree.
This strip club culture has had a huge impact on music (Af American) and fashion, and these influences are being normalized on tv.

I don't think girls should aspire to or glamorize it and I'm glad the school isn't taking it lightly. (Tho I don't agree w/ the punishment.)
Originally Posted by spiderlashes5000
I agree, I'm not a fan of glamorizing this strip club culture and further objectification of women and especially girls but the punishment is way too harsh.
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^^Yeah, it's pretty bad! These kids were dumb to break school rules to make this horrible video.

Twerking is definitely a sexualized and objectifying dance. Watch a REAL twerking video and you'll see. Does it have cultural ties to dances from Africa? Sure, but let's not play here. These days it's more culturally relevant to the strip club and dirty rap lyrics. Twerking has never been popular in the mainstream, until trap music glorifying strip club culture reached suburbia. Just sayin.
Originally Posted by Layali
I agree.
This strip club culture has had a huge impact on music (Af American) and fashion, and these influences are being normalized on tv.

I don't think girls should aspire to or glamorize it and I'm glad the school isn't taking it lightly. (Tho I don't agree w/ the punishment.)
Originally Posted by spiderlashes5000
I agree, I'm not a fan of glamorizing this strip club culture and further objectification of women and especially girls but the punishment is way too harsh.
Originally Posted by Josephine
Yeah, maybe some kind of mandatory community service or research project aimed at teaching them why that wasn't cute. LOL
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