Fla. student arrested for science 'blast'

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Fla. student arrested for science 'blast'

Did the the officials act appropriately or overreact?

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On the one hand, I don't think she should have been arrested or expelled, maybe just suspended. On the other, where do you draw the line about what's allowed to be done at school? Smoke bomb is ok, but not a pipe bomb? Pellet gun, but not a rifle?

I don't believe for a minute that she didn't know what was going to happen. She did it before class, and that "recipe" has been going around Facebook for months.

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Last edited by CurlyCanadian; 05-03-2013 at 06:54 AM.
Health and safety gone mad combined with post 9/11, post Boston explosions hysteria, mixed in with a bit of racism and a general disdain for science...calling it an overreating is putting it mildly.

ETA: I think a week's suspension would have been apropriate and harsh enough.
My 1st grade son was suspended because he pointed his FINGERS like a gun at school. The automatic rules are stupid. She did this experiment by herself, by a lake! If she meant harm, she would have planned it in a more conspicuous location. I think discipline in schools needs to be looked at individually- does the child have a history of mental or behavioral issues? Do they get good grades, participate in activities? Teenagers are notorious for bad judgement calls. This is a teaching moment, not a ruin her life moment. Disgraceful in my opinion.
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I understand the school has rules and they are following them, but what about the DA? Makes no sense that she was charged after reading this....


"Some commenters accused Glotfelty of a double standard, noting that three days after Wilmot was charged she declined to prosecute a 13-year-old boy who killed his 10-year-old brother with a BB gun. She said "it is our opinion that this case can only be seen as a tragic accident."
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Sounds like even the school doesn't think it was that serious (or that she was anything but curious) and they did check with the. Science teacher. The school needs to work some degrees of punishment into their "policies". She should have had a small in school suspension and been given a paper to research on something related to WHY this was a bad idea to do unsupervised.
PS then they should immediately try to get that girl some scholarship money for college on a science field.
This is crazy, and I do believe an overreaction. I don't know whats going on. Shortly after I got out of school I heard stories about changes in my former elementary school. Students could no longer play punch bug, play with a stick (in a non threatening way), touch the walls, etc... I recently asked questions in another forum about teachers no longer being able to grade papers in red ink because it might scare the kids (which was proposed in the mid 2000's and has been implemented in some schools), honor rolls are no longer published in some because it might hurt someones feelings, and all kinds of hypersensitive bull isht which has grown and grown since the late 90's. Now as we know from other stories they can pass around pic msgs of possible sexual assault and bully someone out of the school, but for the love of pete, don't touch anything or be a curious kid. What she did could have been dangerous, but thankfully no one was hurt, and if they really do believe she made a silly mistake and had no intent to harm, than address that in school. No need for charges, especially if she had no prior disciplinary history.

As one article I recently read said, "Let them have their sticks!"
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I think the reason for over reactions like this is that schools find it very difficult to defend themselves when the next kid that blows something up is the budding criminal, for whom the punishment would actually fit. The parents of that kid could pull out gender or race or anything else to hide from the fact that the true difference was one of intent and history.

Schools are prevented from making individual decisions about individual students by screaming parents.

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Originally Posted by Yoshimi
Very true.

I *shudder* (this phone...) to think of what would have happened to the numerous kids who set off smoke bombs, stink bombs, cherry bombs, and set fires in metal trash (no danger) cans, and blew up beakers at my school. Those were typical teen pranks or mishaps. They received a suspension, which the parents fully supported. No parental fits, unless they honestly had good reason.
When I hear terms like "hipster" I think, who told cliques they could leave high school??

"She is a good kid," he added. "She has never been in trouble before. Ever."

"Some commenters accused Glotfelty of a double standard, noting that three days after Wilmot was charged she declined to prosecute a 13-year-old boy who killed his 10-year-old brother with a BB gun. She said 'it is our opinion that this case can only be seen as a tragic accident.'"

Noise + smoke but no injuries or death = expulsion + arrest, which could affect her the rest of her life.

A kid is killed = no punishment ????

Sometimes rules suck.
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"She is a good kid," he added. "She has never been in trouble before. Ever."

"Some commenters accused Glotfelty of a double standard, noting that three days after Wilmot was charged she declined to prosecute a 13-year-old boy who killed his 10-year-old brother with a BB gun. She said 'it is our opinion that this case can only be seen as a tragic accident.'"

Noise + smoke but no injuries or death = expulsion + arrest, which could affect her the rest of her life.

A kid is killed = no punishment ????

Sometimes rules suck.
Originally Posted by The New Black
TNB, it isn't the rule that is the problem here.
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^^^Well, yeah, in part it is. School officials who don't know when to bend the rules are a problem too.
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^^^Well, yeah, in part it is. School officials who don't know when to bend the rules are a problem too.
Originally Posted by The New Black
She did break the rules. No need to bend them, neither is there a need to be so severe. A 3 day suspension would have been sufficient IMO.

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I don't see how that wouldn't be bending the rules. School policy calls for automatic expulsion for bringing explosive devices to school or school activities unless under an instructor's supervision. I agree expulsion is overly harsh though.
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BOMB AND EXPLOSIVE - SECTION 5.05

A student who is in possession of a bomb, explosive device, or substance or materials intended for use in a bomb or explosive device or substance while at school or a school sponsored activity, on School Board property or a school bus (unless the material or device is being used as part of a legitimate school-related activity or science project conducted under the supervision of an instructor with the knowledge and consent of the principal), is guilty of a serious breach of conduct punishable as follows:
Expulsion from School (for not less than one full year)

As was stated by the principal and teachers, she was not intending any malice. As I interpret this rule, if her intent was a science experiment vs making a bomb, then she should have been suspended. The school officials could have interpreted it in the same manner.

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The article said the school confirmed with the teacher that she had no knowledge of the "experiment." That seemed to hurt Wilmot's claim.
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Here is more updated information.

http://touch.orlandosentinel.com/#se.../p2p-75898920/

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"I was kind of surprised that people haven't thought about the other kids," who were hanging out in the area where Kiera started the small explosion. "Thank the good Lord she didn't get hurt either," he said. "The biggest thing is that all kids are entitled to a safe environment."

This is what has stood out in my mind. She broke the school rules....possibly endangered others.....I agree with the expulsion. If it was a science experiment she had been working on she could have either done this with school supervision or if on her own, away from the school.

I don't think she did this with the intention of hurting anyone. Mostly stupidity on her part, but all the same a lesson needs to be learned here. Not only by her, but by other students.

If someone had of been killed or maimed would people think her punishment was too severe? She should consider herself lucky that no one got hurt.
The website Southern Fried Science took a turn away from discussions on conservation and endangered species to weigh in on Kiera's case, asking scientists how many "accidentally blew something up in high school doing science?" Many responded by describing their adolescent capers.

Not trying to argumentative, I just wanted to point out the risk of something blowing up in science experimentation is known and accepted.

She made a mistake, she broke the rules. No malice was intended. I am hoping they will leave it at a one year expulsion, and she will be back in school next year. I also hope her inquisitiveness will get channeled and that she will get scholarships and go on to be a successful scientist. Who knows, she one day she may discover the cure for cancer, aids or heart disease.

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