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Cleveland Hero Was A Repeat Domestic Abuser | The Smoking Gun
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Originally Posted by spiderlashes5000

I don't see how this is at all relevant. Who cares if the guy who happened to be there and hear the screaming, and decided to act on it (unlike many who would have ignored it) is himself a person who committed crimes in his past? That doesn't make what he did any less valid!
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Cleveland Hero Was A Repeat Domestic Abuser | The Smoking Gun
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Originally Posted by spiderlashes5000

I don't see how this is at all relevant. Who cares if the guy who happened to be there and hear the screaming, and decided to act on it (unlike many who would have ignored it) is himself a person who committed crimes in his past? That doesn't make what he did any less valid!
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Just an interesting, ironic twist, I guess. And maybe a real world reminder that few things in life are either all good or all bad.

Why is it relevent to this thread? Bc anything about any of the ppl or the situation is fair game.
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Spidey, i have to disagree with you. This has been a BIG deal in Cleveland.

Also, the dispatchers here are very fragments by neighborhood (they are looking to close at least half the offices). Chances are he knew about this case and should have treated it like high priority . Its not like this happens everyday. The fact that it is national news shows that this is a big deal. Its not your average cal

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Originally Posted by scrills
on the pierce show last night or anderson cooper (forgot which one), they played another audio with a dispatcher saying we got a call from someone saying she is amanda berry. male voice said tell them to see if de jesus is in there too. so at least someone still was aware of the names of the missing girls. then you hear we got them! we got them!
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No good deed goes unpunished?
John Walsh's story is so heartbreaking. I'm glad he has been able to find some comfort in helping others.

I've often thought it would be easier knowing your love one was dead then to go years and years wondering what was happening to them. I read a story some while back where there were videos of children in porn and they were missing children. The police were still not able to locate them. How horrible for the child and the family. I think I would go crazy.
Originally Posted by Lotsawaves
I think it would be too. It's not something that I would want any parent to hear, but never knowing for sure or finding closure would be horrific. I do believe several parents when they say that they know their child is still alive. I absolutely believe a parent can feel that. Especially the moms. I am sure sometimes it is false hope, but I would say a majority are correct. Some say the opposite. They no longer feel their child/know they are gone. Both are sad.

So many parents have worked or continue to work closely with the center. They travel around and speak to the public and to law enforcement agencies. They speak with them about how to best deal with the parents right after an abduction. How to get them involved without feeling like they are putting to much on them, or ways to not make them feel left out, even if they are just trying to protect them. I watched video after video on it one night and between the abduction stories, outcomes, and aftermath... it was all I could do to hold it together.
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Holy crap, Castro's daughter was friends with one of the victims and maybe the last person to see her before her disappearance -

Ariel Castro
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Oh for the love of all that is good!

And
another of his daughter is in jail for attempted murder of her daughter.

Cleveland kidnapping: Suspect Ariel Castro

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i'm still baffled as to how the other 2 brothers are NOT being charged with anything.
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Because they had nothing to do with it. According to the last report I read, the kidnapped women said the other brothers were not involved. Police say they probably had no knowledge of any of this.
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Wait. They didn't have knowledge that these women were beaten and raped?

How is that possible? It doesn't even sound like they ever left the house. Are they mentally deficient or something?
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Did they all live in the same house?

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Originally Posted by scrills
No the 3 brothers didn't all live in the same house.

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Ah.... ok.

I was totally under the impression that they all lived together in the house.

That makes more sense.

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Ah.... ok.

I was totally under the impression that they all lived together in the house.

That makes more sense.
Originally Posted by Curlyminx
That only one guy was living there makes this so much harder to understand. How did he manage to keep this going all by himself for so long?? W/o accomplices, I would be soooooo afraid someone would slit my throat the second I fell asleep (if I were he).

I was thinking it was three guys sleeping in shifts.

OMG, I can't even begin to imagine now how he restrained them.
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I just read that he kept them chained up in separate rooms

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The house is not that big. I just cannot imagine how he pulled it off. The brothers never went into any other part of the house? My sister has been in every nook and cranny of my home, with the exception of the crawl spaces.

The story just gets worse with each passing day. My mind cannot process it all. I'm having a hard time grasping any of this.

Does anyone think he deserves the death penalty for making at least one of the women miscarry repeatedly? I'm not a proponent of the death penalty, but in this case there is no doubt in my mind that he committed these atrocities and the world would be a better place without him.

Actually, I think it would be better if they locked him in solitary confinement, to not see the light of day, for the rest of his life.
I just read that he kept them chained up in separate rooms

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Originally Posted by scrills
You know, I had hoped that those girls at least had each other for support. The fact that he kept them apart, I just can't...
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This is really awful and I don't think I even want to know more about it.

I don't support capital punishment so I personally wouldn't suggest that or hope for that but yes, obviously, he needs to be kept away from society at large.

This is beyond horrifying...that no one discovered this...that the women were so afraid or impaired or whatever they couldn't try to escape...that ppl have these bizarre fanatasies and sadistic natures...that now these women have to try to close this chapter and start new lives.
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This is really awful and I don't think I even want to know more about it.

I don't support capital punishment so I personally wouldn't suggest that or hope for that but yes, obviously, he needs to be kept away from society at large.

This is beyond horrifying...that no one discovered this...that the women were so afraid or impaired or whatever they couldn't try to escape...that ppl have these bizarre fanatasies and sadistic natures...that now these women have to try to close this chapter and start new lives.
Originally Posted by spiderlashes5000
I believe they did try to escape but he was testing them and I'm sure they were punished severely for it. After a while, they may have given up on some level.

I believe in capital punishment but I believe being locked up and tortured would be more fitting for him.
I heard this morning (on NPR's reporters roundtable) that this was their first escape attempt. not sure how true that is

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