Three women, missing for years, found

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I heard this morning (on NPR's reporters roundtable) that this was their first escape attempt. not sure how true that is
Originally Posted by scrills
Wow, okay. I thought I read differently somewhere else.
Hearing that he was "involved in the search" for one of these women made my skin crawl. It takes some nerve to join the search party, and speak to & comfort her family members.
When I hear terms like "hipster" I think, who told cliques they could leave high school??

i think it was even worst. because they knew each other was there but couldnt support each other, help each other, or comfort each other. didnt know if girls were dying and he was replacing them or what. they just had to do what they could to survive.
i heard that he would pretend to leave the house, but really wouldnt. so they were afraid of being punish or some such horribleness.
i heard that he would pretend to leave the house, but really wouldnt. so they were afraid of being punish or some such horribleness.
Originally Posted by thelio
This. He would beat and starve them if they didn't pass the escape test.

I don't really believe in the death penalty. One reason is that, at least in Washington, anyone who gets the death penalty is automatically given appeal after appeal. I can only imagine the number of appeals this guy would get if he got the death penalty for killing a fetus. I'd rather just lock the guy up in solitary confinement and throw away the key.
When are women going to face the fact that they donít know their own bodies as well as men who have heard things?

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I'd rather just lock the guy up in solitary confinement and throw away the key.
Originally Posted by mrspoppers
I was feeling vengeful, but you are right. He needs to feel at least a fraction of how those women felt. Alone, locked away in a cell, away from everything.
I'd rather just lock the guy up in solitary confinement and throw away the key.
Originally Posted by mrspoppers
I was feeling vengeful, but you are right. He needs to feel at least a fraction of how those women felt. Alone, locked away in a cell, away from everything.
Originally Posted by medussa
That's still vengeful. Lol

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I live about an hours drive from Cleveland so this story has been getting lots of coverage in the news with new details coming out constantly. It is just horrible what these poor women have suffered at the hands of this monster for all these years.

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I'd rather just lock the guy up in solitary confinement and throw away the key.
Originally Posted by mrspoppers
I was feeling vengeful, but you are right. He needs to feel at least a fraction of how those women felt. Alone, locked away in a cell, away from everything.
Originally Posted by medussa
That's still vengeful. Lol

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Originally Posted by spiderlashes5000
Oh, okay. So be it. And thanks for the insight. Lol.

I was feeling vengeful, but you are right. He needs to feel at least a fraction of how those women felt. Alone, locked away in a cell, away from everything.
Originally Posted by medussa
That's still vengeful. Lol

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Originally Posted by spiderlashes5000
Oh, okay. So be it. And thanks for the insight. Lol.
Originally Posted by medussa
No need to get defensive about it; I'm sure he will be punished adequately by the judge, jury and at the hands of his prisonmates. I'm thinking more about how to debrief the survivors and what ongoing services will be available.

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Michelle Knight's grandmother Deborah has also told WOIO-TV Thursday that Michelle will require facial reconstructive surgery as Castro had beaten her so badly during her captivity. She said, "When she was severely beaten, he had beat her so bad in the face, she has to have facial reconstruction, and she's lost hearing in one ear."
Kidnap Victim Shuns Family: Michelle Knight Could Be Adopted by Gina DeJesus' Parents (VIDEO)

Wow... I just don't understand. He's not even human to me now. Just a whole other category of species.
He seemed to treat her a little differently than the others. I'm not sure why though.
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I drove about an hour an a half to my parents this weekend and CNN was talking about it most of the way, I just couldn't turn it off, the whole thing is just so terrifyingly bizarre.

His daughter said she was never allowed anywhere in the house besides the main floor. She had asked a few times to see the bedroom she grew up in, but he always said there was too much junk and stuff stored there. It doesn't look like a very big house, you would think she would have heard the women. Unless they were so afraid they just never made noise?

I couldn't imagine asking my parents to go somewhere in their house though. And I would be a little taken back if they told me I couldn't go somewhere. Unless of course it was something like a room had just been painted or flooring put down or whatever, but it seems so strange to me.

One of the women is in a secret location and having no contact with her family. I think maybe the one that was 20 when she was taken? I can't imagine what would have been so bad before you disappeared that couldn't be forgotten after being missing for 10 years? What about friends? I feel horrible for her, seems to be dealing with so much extra on top of the hell she has just come out of.

They also played another interview with the neighbor where they were calling him a hero. He said he wasn't a hero, Amanda was the hero. A normal person would have run with her child, but she wouldn't leave till the police came and the others were safe
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Solitary seems like a fine idea, but I wish someone would go in at random and torture him.

On a more minor note, I really hate it when terrible crimes occur in Cleveland. We already get enough grief from the rest of the country. In Chicago, I grew to expect the worst, but it's harder to accept here. Civic pride, I suppose. Please, please know that most people in Cleveland are nice, and friendly, and helpful, and kind.
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I drove about an hour an a half to my parents this weekend and CNN was talking about it most of the way, I just couldn't turn it off, the whole thing is just so terrifyingly bizarre.

His daughter said she was never allowed anywhere in the house besides the main floor. She had asked a few times to see the bedroom she grew up in, but he always said there was too much junk and stuff stored there. It doesn't look like a very big house, you would think she would have heard the women. Unless they were so afraid they just never made noise?

I couldn't imagine asking my parents to go somewhere in their house though. And I would be a little taken back if they told me I couldn't go somewhere. Unless of course it was something like a room had just been painted or flooring put down or whatever, but it seems so strange to me.

One of the women is in a secret location and having no contact with her family. I think maybe the one that was 20 when she was taken? I can't imagine what would have been so bad before you disappeared that couldn't be forgotten after being missing for 10 years? What about friends? I feel horrible for her, seems to be dealing with so much extra on top of the hell she has just come out of.

They also played another interview with the neighbor where they were calling him a hero. He said he wasn't a hero, Amanda was the hero. A normal person would have run with her child, but she wouldn't leave till the police came and the others were safe
Originally Posted by CurlyCanadian
i read today that michelle was gang raped and that resulted in a child being born a year before she was abducted. the child was put in foster care. this poor women! she has so much to deal with...her family seems estranged also.
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I thought I read that Michelle Knight's family had been abusive to her so she doesn't want to go back to them.
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TNB, that's what I read. They thought she had run away instead of being abducted.
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I drove about an hour an a half to my parents this weekend and CNN was talking about it most of the way, I just couldn't turn it off, the whole thing is just so terrifyingly bizarre.

His daughter said she was never allowed anywhere in the house besides the main floor. She had asked a few times to see the bedroom she grew up in, but he always said there was too much junk and stuff stored there. It doesn't look like a very big house, you would think she would have heard the women. Unless they were so afraid they just never made noise?

I couldn't imagine asking my parents to go somewhere in their house though. And I would be a little taken back if they told me I couldn't go somewhere. Unless of course it was something like a room had just been painted or flooring put down or whatever, but it seems so strange to me.

One of the women is in a secret location and having no contact with her family. I think maybe the one that was 20 when she was taken? I can't imagine what would have been so bad before you disappeared that couldn't be forgotten after being missing for 10 years? What about friends? I feel horrible for her, seems to be dealing with so much extra on top of the hell she has just come out of.

They also played another interview with the neighbor where they were calling him a hero. He said he wasn't a hero, Amanda was the hero. A normal person would have run with her child, but she wouldn't leave till the police came and the others were safe
Originally Posted by CurlyCanadian
Regarding the bolded - I read (perhaps on CNN.com) that the daughter said there was always music playing, somewhat loudly, at all times. She thought it was because he was a musician and loved music. But in hindsight she realizes it was to drown out any noises the young ladies could have made. *shudder*
Solitary seems like a fine idea, but I wish someone would go in at random and torture him.

On a more minor note, I really hate it when terrible crimes occur in Cleveland. We already get enough grief from the rest of the country. In Chicago, I grew to expect the worst, but it's harder to accept here. Civic pride, I suppose. Please, please know that most people in Cleveland are nice, and friendly, and helpful, and kind.
Originally Posted by claudine191
My co worker and I were discussing possible torture options, after watching a segment on ABC, night before last. Time spent on a fire ant hill was one possibility, but similar options are endless.

People everywhere are both good and bad, Claudine. I could never blame an area for the actions of some.
When I hear terms like "hipster" I think, who told cliques they could leave high school??

Am I correct in thinking that the woman who does not want contact with her family yet, Michelle, was the one treated the worst? She needs facial reconstruction and was the same one who was forced to miscarry, by physical assault, several times? I can't even... I wonder if her family not looking for her was some type of cue for him to be harsher (and that is saying something) with her.

Make that butt naked, covered in honey, on a fire ant hill.
When I hear terms like "hipster" I think, who told cliques they could leave high school??

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