Human Resources question

Is it standard for a prospective employer to perform some sort of employment background check that reveals previous employers? I seem to remember a previous employer running something similar to a "credit check" on me that revealed all my previous employers, but I can't be certain if there is such a thing.

I'm hoping to be able to leave a particular employer off my CV and don't want any unwanted surprises during the hiring process.
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I honestly don't know. But the unexplained time gap is a red flag.
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I'll have the gap covered as long as they can't get a listing of previous employers.

It's frustrating because there's no way to stop the character assassination that this employer is carrying out behind the scenes. No one will expose them because the industry is too tightly knit, and being colleagues, these guys stick together even more tightly, especially if they think my previous employer helped them "dodge a bullet" by giving them the "scoop" on me. I can't even defend myself because I don't know what's being said, and most of the time, I'm not even being given the opportunity to defend myself anyway. No prospective employer cares about all that...they just want to hire someone seemingly without baggage, and with multiple qualified applicants for every job, they just step right over me.
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That's a shame. Could you have a friend call, posing as a prospective employer to get the scoop? Or is the industry so tightly knit that your old employer would know what you're doing?
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I've already had a professional reference check done, but what I'm talking about is a "back door" reference check--the kind where they say things they're not supposed to legally say that can't be substantiated (or unsubstantiated by me), and we're talking about between surgeons.

I suspect that the prospective employer surgeon would call his surgeon buddy, one of the surgeons from my previous disgruntled employer, who would then say gawd knows what about me (because I left their employ twice and they were highly offended.) So, yes, it's very tightly knit--an old boys' club of sorts. I'd never find a surgeon who would "betray" another brother like that. I have a fairly powerful, well-respected surgeon on my CV who offered me a job long ago (across the country, though), but I couldn't get him to help me sort this out either.

I can't have anyone "pretend" to be a surgeon in their speciality because the community is so small, they all know of each other, and if not, it's very simple to verify someone's credentials. The surgeons would never speak candidly about me to anyone they didn't know anyway because of the possibility of litigation if it got back to me.

I've got to find a way to expunge this employer from my work history--they have quite literally ruined my career (which my supervisor said to me said to me as I was leaving) and my life.
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In my industry, it's common for an employment background check to include a credit report. Credit reports include past employers. If this is common in the medical field, you might want to get copies of a couple of your credit reports and double check what they say.

I have no idea if they can get previous employers any other way.
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I got called out for leaving an employer off my application/resume. I worked as a barista for one month, and because it wasn't relative to my current job I didn't feel it was necessary to list it. After my interview I got an email from my supervisor saying that the barista job showed up on my background check and to please explain that.
In my industry, it's common for an employment background check to include a credit report. Credit reports include past employers. If this is common in the medical field, you might want to get copies of a couple of your credit reports and double check what they say.

I have no idea if they can get previous employers any other way.
Originally Posted by mrspoppers
This is what I remember from several years ago. I remember receiving a copy of it, and though it was similar to a credit report, the only info it contained were previous employers. I believe the prospective employer must obtain your permission to run the check, at which point at least I'll know it's coming.

I got called out for leaving an employer off my application/resume. I worked as a barista for one month, and because it wasn't relative to my current job I didn't feel it was necessary to list it. After my interview I got an email from my supervisor saying that the barista job showed up on my background check and to please explain that.
Originally Posted by Sigi
I've left some relevant but less significant or temp positions off my CV and have never been called on it before. Your supervisor must be quite a stickler! But, sounds like there may be no way around this obstacle. Either way, it sounds like I may be doomed.

I've never had difficulty finding work, and this employer has been on my CV for years because they were my first employer out of college. I'm not sure why it's a problem now.
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Dood, get over it; there's no time limit on lurking.

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I just recently got a new job. Around the same time as they we recalling my references, I had a background check. Yes, I had to give permission do it. I filled pit an online form and had to list all of my employers for the past 7 years, and give permission to contact them or not. If I didn't give permission, they could find the info through tax records I believe.

It was done through a company that HR hired for this. It was totally unrelated to any of their decisions about whether to hire me, as far as I'm concerned, although I'm sure it would have been an issue if any major red flags came up.

But if all they're doing is checking that you worked there and your salary, that
Can't cause issues for you, can it?
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In my industry, it's common for an employment background check to include a credit report. Credit reports include past employers. If this is common in the medical field, you might want to get copies of a couple of your credit reports and double check what they say.

I have no idea if they can get previous employers any other way.
Originally Posted by mrspoppers
This is what I remember from several years ago. I remember receiving a copy of it, and though it was similar to a credit report, the only info it contained were previous employers. I believe the prospective employer must obtain your permission to run the check, at which point at least I'll know it's coming.

I got called out for leaving an employer off my application/resume. I worked as a barista for one month, and because it wasn't relative to my current job I didn't feel it was necessary to list it. After my interview I got an email from my supervisor saying that the barista job showed up on my background check and to please explain that.
Originally Posted by Sigi
I've left some relevant but less significant or temp positions off my CV and have never been called on it before. Your supervisor must be quite a stickler! But, sounds like there may be no way around this obstacle. Either way, it sounds like I may be doomed.

I've never had difficulty finding work, and this employer has been on my CV for years because they were my first employer out of college. I'm not sure why it's a problem now.
Originally Posted by Honeycurls
How long ago was this? If you worked for this employer 10 years ago, you don't need to include them on your CV and it won't be a red flag if they show up on a background check somehow. When you complete the employment application, employers require your last three jobs or jobs in the last 10 years. Once you get past that 10 year hurdle, you're in the clear.

ETA: I had a situation almost identical to yours at one time. It was a close-knit industry and my former manager was bad-mouthing me. I ended up having to level with potential employers about what happened and what she was doing when I interviewed. Since I got it out of the way early, it was fine in most cases.
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Last edited by mrspoppers; 06-03-2013 at 09:21 AM.
I once had an employee give me a warning for insubordination, which they were then legally allowed to disclose in a reference.

When I went for interviews I would just being it up to the interviewing manager that they may see this on my reference and the reasons behind it.

You might want to start saying something like "I realize this is unorthodox, but I wanted to make you aware that I left x employment under strained circumstances and it has been brought to my attention that there have been unsubstantiated claims made about my performance there. I'm sure you will see from all my other references that I am a great employee, and I would appreciate the opportunity to defend anything said about me by x employer."


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In my industry, it's common for an employment background check to include a credit report. Credit reports include past employers. If this is common in the medical field, you might want to get copies of a couple of your credit reports and double check what they say.

I have no idea if they can get previous employers any other way.
Originally Posted by mrspoppers
This is what I remember from several years ago. I remember receiving a copy of it, and though it was similar to a credit report, the only info it contained were previous employers. I believe the prospective employer must obtain your permission to run the check, at which point at least I'll know it's coming.

I got called out for leaving an employer off my application/resume. I worked as a barista for one month, and because it wasn't relative to my current job I didn't feel it was necessary to list it. After my interview I got an email from my supervisor saying that the barista job showed up on my background check and to please explain that.
Originally Posted by Sigi
I've left some relevant but less significant or temp positions off my CV and have never been called on it before. Your supervisor must be quite a stickler! But, sounds like there may be no way around this obstacle. Either way, it sounds like I may be doomed.

I've never had difficulty finding work, and this employer has been on my CV for years because they were my first employer out of college. I'm not sure why it's a problem now.
Originally Posted by Honeycurls
How long ago was this? If you worked for this employer 10 years ago, you don't need to include them on your CV and it won't be a red flag if they show up on a background check somehow. When you complete the employment application, employers require your last three jobs or jobs in the last 10 years. Once you get past that 10 year hurdle, you're in the clear.

ETA: I had a situation almost identical to yours at one time. It was a close-knit industry and my former manager was bad-mouthing me. I ended up having to level with potential employers about what happened and what she was doing when I interviewed. Since I got it out of the way early, it was fine in most cases.
Originally Posted by mrspoppers
I once had an employee give me a warning for insubordination, which they were then legally allowed to disclose in a reference.

When I went for interviews I would just being it up to the interviewing manager that they may see this on my reference and the reasons behind it.

You might want to start saying something like "I realize this is unorthodox, but I wanted to make you aware that I left x employment under strained circumstances and it has been brought to my attention that there have been unsubstantiated claims made about my performance there. I'm sure you will see from all my other references that I am a great employee, and I would appreciate the opportunity to defend anything said about me by x employer."


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Originally Posted by Yoshimi
Mrsp, I didn't even take that into consideration--I began working there in 1999, left in 2000, returned in 2002 and left again in 2006, so only 7 years have elapsed since then.

And, you both have the same great idea, but I tried that strategy during my last interview. It worked well to get me the interview--was called back for a second interview, in fact. Both interviews went extremely well, and I'm fairly certain the job was mine...until the brotherhood of the surgeons stepped in. There can be no other explanation--there weren't even any other candidates and certainly none more qualified or suitable for the position.

In fact, another surgeon I interviewed with for a different position voiced concerns to his staff about why I had been unemployed for so long because my CV was exemplary. Fortunately, a couple of different people there told me of his concern, and at first I thought his concern was for my skill level after so much time...then I realized he was wondering why I was still unemployed--as in "what's wrong with her?" And, as I suspected, he or his office did further digging and suddenly, I, the only candidate, was no longer being considered for the position--in fact, they refused to respond to my calls or emails.

It's been frustrating and humbling. I'm no longer qualified or eligible to work in my previous field because I could not afford to maintain my continuing education or licensing. I'm too far out of the loop. My career is over. I'm simply trying to pick up the pieces now and move on, but I can't even get an interview anywhere because I have no other marketable skills or recent experience and am in a job market where there are a million other people who do have experience or skills for the available jobs.

But, thanks for the input, Yoshimi and Mrsp.
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I just recently got a new job. Around the same time as they we recalling my references, I had a background check. Yes, I had to give permission do it. I filled pit an online form and had to list all of my employers for the past 7 years, and give permission to contact them or not. If I didn't give permission, they could find the info through tax records I believe.

It was done through a company that HR hired for this. It was totally unrelated to any of their decisions about whether to hire me, as far as I'm concerned, although I'm sure it would have been an issue if any major red flags came up.

But if all they're doing is checking that you worked there and your salary, that
Can't cause issues for you, can it?
Originally Posted by Who Me?
I don't know what they're checking--based on the reactions I've gotten, it has to be more than the standard reference info. See, the problem is that prospective employer Dr. X is calling the office of previous employer, Dr. Y and speaking directly to Dr. Y off the record. The conversation probably goes something like this:

Dr. X: Bob! Old buddy! How's the family? Say, I've got Honey Curls applying for a position here. What can you tell me about her--her CV shows that she worked for you back in 2006.

Dr. Y: Hey, Mike! Good to hear from you! Family's great! How's your wife? So, HONEY CURLS???? Just between you and me, we wouldn't hire her again if she was the last person on earth. Worst employee we ever had. She left us once, then we took her back, and the ungrateful little $%^#@ spit in our faces and left again. She screwed us royally, Mike. Don't trust her. She's trouble. Remember, keep that between you and me, Mike. I can get into a lot of trouble for speaking so candidly, but you're my friend and colleague, and I feel you should know the whole truth. I'm sure you'd do the same for me."

Of course, that's sheer speculation on my part, but all indicators point to this being fairly accurate.
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Ok wow, it may be time you considered taking this to an employment rights organization, at least to see if there is anything that can be done. Off the recover references like this aren't allowed for good reason and while hard to prove it sounds like you might have a good case.

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