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Old 06-07-2013, 01:35 PM   #1
 
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Default Moms get in brawl at kid talent show....

Did it look to you like Tyler intentionally pushed James' 3 year-old daughter out of her way? If so, do you think Tyler should have been charged also?

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No, knocking the child over didn't look intentional to me. It looked like she accidently "hipped" the child (which I've done a million times...big hips do that) and put out a hand to keep the child from falling.
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i honestly couldnt even tell by the footage. Either way i feel both are old enought ot be able to control their anger, expectally around the kids.
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The whole auditorium was full of Parents Behaving Badly. Their precious snowflakes were on stage and they were all being asholes by not sitting quietly and in their seats so that everyone could enjoy the performances. I've been a parent for a very long time, and I've seen this happening more often than not at school events and performances (though not usually with actual fighting). I think a lot of time it's the schools' fault, for not having enough parking and not having enough seating space for the size crowd. We know people get really nasty when they don't have enough space. A lot of trouble could be alleviated by simply splitting things into multiple performances so the crowds would be smaller.
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I had a hard time getting the video to play, and it's blurry on my phone, so I can't say for sure but to me it looked liked she pushed the child. She turned sideways when she walked past the child, extended her arm and to me it looked like she was pushing, rather than pulling.

Yes, I think they both should have been arrested for acting a fool during a children's talent show. I could not blame people for being frustrated with a wall of parents standing up, blocking their view. You need to have a little more curtsey for the parents and other family mbrs of the children behind you.

But it got completely out of control from there.
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The whole auditorium was full of Parents Behaving Badly. Their precious snowflakes were on stage and they were all being asholes by not sitting quietly and in their seats so that everyone could enjoy the performances. I've been a parent for a very long time, and I've seen this happening more often than not at school events and performances (though not usually with actual fighting). I think a lot of time it's the schools' fault, for not having enough parking and not having enough seating space for the size crowd. We know people get really nasty when they don't have enough space. A lot of trouble could be alleviated by simply splitting things into multiple performances so the crowds would be smaller.
I was gonna say... I never saw anything like that when I was in school. Everyone sat and if there was not enough room parents stood to the side or in the back of the auditorium while K-8 took the stage.

Dividing the shows, if it is truly that over crowed, and perhaps having a A/V person who video tapes the show would be a good thing. Couldn't hurt:
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Whether it was an accident or not, I find funny she didn't apologize or pick the child up. It looks like she saw the baby fall over...
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I would hesitate to put my hands on the child of someone I didn't know, esp if we just had words. You can clearly see how touchy people are about every.damn.thing.

To me, it looks like she pushed the kid over but you can't really tell from that. It's so blurry. The woman speaking seems very sincerely remorseful for the whole incident.

Kids' games, graduations, and performances are pretty much ruined by parents. I can't tell you how many times I've had to move because the amateur photographer in front of me set up a tripod (and one notable instance, lighting). Friday night I essentially watched my daughter's performance on the iPad of d-bag in front of me.

People are just self-absorbed and inconsiderate. Aside from the fact that they can sell the videos, I totally understand why most dance recitals now ban cameras and video recordings by parents. You can't see a damn thing because everyone is so busy trying to ensure their kid's Big Moment is preserved for all time.

Our school does a silent auction for front row seats of pretty much everything. It's a great fundraiser. A set of four seats goes for around $1000.
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Whether it was an accident or not, I find funny she didn't apologize or pick the child up. It looks like she saw the baby fall over...
If I politely asked someone to move over just a bit (or in this case, kneel down), so I could take a picture, and that person cussed me out, you can bet I would not cross that person again. The fact that Tyler got up and cut right in front of James (and no one else), seemed somewhat aggressive to me. I avoid hostile crazy people and I do not engage them in any way, shape, or form.

We will never know if it was intentional or not, but it looked to me like she brushed that baby aside in an irritated manner. It also appeared to me that she saw the toddler fall (as evidenced by Tyler looking down behind her at the little girl as she walked away). She probably realized what she'd done but was so upset, she didn't care. In those situations, the adrenaline is flowing and it's hard to think straight.

Then again, she did sound pretty calm in her 911 call. Maybe it's just me, but if someone had just tried to choke me, I wouldn't sound that calm.
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Our school does a silent auction for front row seats of pretty much everything. It's a great fundraiser. A set of four seats goes for around $1000.


That is brilliant!

There is one family at my daughter's dance studio that always brings their enormous extended family to everything, and they'll have one person show up early and stand in line to be the first in the auditorium and then throw jackets and whatever over 50 seats before anyone else even gets a chance. They almost-always get the first rows of every performance. I really hate them.
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That's obnoxious.
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I would hesitate to put my hands on the child of someone I didn't know, esp if we just had words. You can clearly see how touchy people are about every.damn.thing.

To me, it looks like she pushed the kid over but you can't really tell from that. It's so blurry. The woman speaking seems very sincerely remorseful for the whole incident.

Kids' games, graduations, and performances are pretty much ruined by parents. I can't tell you how many times I've had to move because the amateur photographer in front of me set up a tripod (and one notable instance, lighting). Friday night I essentially watched my daughter's performance on the iPad of d-bag in front of me.

People are just self-absorbed and inconsiderate. Aside from the fact that they can sell the videos, I totally understand why most dance recitals now ban cameras and video recordings by parents. You can't see a damn thing because everyone is so busy trying to ensure their kid's Big Moment is preserved for all time.

Our school does a silent auction for front row seats of pretty much everything. It's a great fundraiser. A set of four seats goes for around $1000.
Well said, and I am not surprised that some are banning cameras. This is a precious moment, but it's not a rock concert. I danced for many years, was in every talent show k-8 and did chorus 9-12. We put on huge shows that sold out for a week straight and traveled to competitions all over. I have 2 videos and 5 pictures of performances. I lived, and so did my parents.

The auction is a brilliant idea. That's along the lines of what I was thinking when I mentioned getting a person to record the show, and selling copies. It would be a great fund raiser for the schools. It would be nice for parents who had to work and missed it. It would also be good experience for some high schoolers, in an audio/visual program (if they still call them that and it applies). They could get some experience and extra credit.
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^ That is actually what they did at my high school. The guy who did the video for our chorus shows was very good, but they had some type of drama with the payment arrangements and he only did it one year.

They did do that with several things, though. Video yearbooks, etc. It would help fund the year book department.
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That is brilliant!

There is one family at my daughter's dance studio that always brings their enormous extended family to everything, and they'll have one person show up early and stand in line to be the first in the auditorium and then throw jackets and whatever over 50 seats before anyone else even gets a chance. They almost-always get the first rows of every performance. I really hate them.
That's annoying. In cases like that they should have a limited number of seats per child or how many seats you can save even though I hate too many rules.
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Ppl know when they've bumped into someone or something. When you're in a tight space, you know to walk more slowly and and step carefully. You don't just stridently breeze through a packed auditorium, expecting the crowd to part like the Red Sea.
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That is brilliant!

There is one family at my daughter's dance studio that always brings their enormous extended family to everything, and they'll have one person show up early and stand in line to be the first in the auditorium and then throw jackets and whatever over 50 seats before anyone else even gets a chance. They almost-always get the first rows of every performance. I really hate them.
That's annoying. In cases like that they should have a limited number of seats per child or how many seats you can save even though I hate too many rules.


There's already 1 rule that should cover it: No saved seats. These people are above the rule. Their special snowflake is one of the more popular "soloists", so they feel very entitled. She graduates next year and I'll be very happy to see the ass-end of that family.
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