Paula Deen's racist comments

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It doesn't suprise me at all.
Originally Posted by Josephine

Really. Why is this news? How old is she? Where is she from? What is her race? How is this different than 95% of the rest of all old White ppl from down South?
Originally Posted by spiderlashes5000
I've never seen any of the old white people in my family act like that. Just because your from the south, and of a specific age, it doesn't mean your automatically racist.

Or sexually harassing everyone who walks in the room.
Originally Posted by Fifi.G
Then yours must be in that 5% I alluded to
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I dont think 95% of the white people in the south are racist. There is alot, i can agree with. but no where near that many. Just because they are from the south doesnt mean they are automatically racist. There are some awesome folks down there who fought harder for civil rights than some black folks and who still fights for equal rights.
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I dont think 95% of the white people in the south are racist. There is alot, i can agree with. but no where near that many. Just because they are from the south doesnt mean they are automatically racist. There are some awesome folks down there who fought harder for civil rights than some black folks and who still fights for equal rights.
Originally Posted by thelio
I wasn't putting 95% out there as an exact scientific calculation. I suppose your guesstimate is as good as my guesstimate, as there is never really any definitive way of knowing how many Americans are racist and are not, esp as there is not even agreement on the definition of "racism." My point was just that PD's comments and attitudes are typical of her cohort.
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I dont think 95% of the white people in the south are racist. There is alot, i can agree with. but no where near that many. Just because they are from the south doesnt mean they are automatically racist. There are some awesome folks down there who fought harder for civil rights than some black folks and who still fights for equal rights.
Originally Posted by thelio
I could not agree more. Of course I have met or encountered some racists in my life, but i think anyone anywhere can say that. It's not limited to the South, by any means.

There is one area I can think of, about three hours from me, that is full of racists. It's a way back in the woods militia town, and most people who run the militias here are from the North. Detroit to be exact. Some scary people live there. They are mean, all the way around, and I'm glad they typically stay on their compounds.
When I hear terms like "hipster" I think, who told cliques they could leave high school??

I dont think 95% of the white people in the south are racist. There is alot, i can agree with. but no where near that many. Just because they are from the south doesnt mean they are automatically racist. There are some awesome folks down there who fought harder for civil rights than some black folks and who still fights for equal rights.
Originally Posted by thelio
I wasn't putting 95% out there as an exact scientific calculation. I suppose your guesstimate is as good as my guesstimate, as there is never really any definitive way of knowing how many Americans are racist and are not, esp as there is not even agreement on the definition of "racism." My point was just that PD's comments and attitudes are typical of her cohort.
Originally Posted by spiderlashes5000
I figure that. but your guestimation of 95% to me is saying that you believe most white people in the south are racist. Which i dont think is true. I have lived in texas and louisiana, and have been welcomed by both blacks and whites. But I have been called the n-word once in my life and it occured in the mid-atlantic region in a major city.
I definitely don't think old school racist folks only exist in the south or even more so. Regardless, this is not news to me. I've also encountered many nonracist older folks and I think it's wonderful. But it's still pleasant to me, not the norm/standard.
I dont think 95% of the white people in the south are racist. There is alot, i can agree with. but no where near that many. Just because they are from the south doesnt mean they are automatically racist. There are some awesome folks down there who fought harder for civil rights than some black folks and who still fights for equal rights.
Originally Posted by thelio
I wasn't putting 95% out there as an exact scientific calculation. I suppose your guesstimate is as good as my guesstimate, as there is never really any definitive way of knowing how many Americans are racist and are not, esp as there is not even agreement on the definition of "racism." My point was just that PD's comments and attitudes are typical of her cohort.
Originally Posted by spiderlashes5000
I figure that. but your guestimation of 95% to me is saying that you believe most white people in the south are racist. Which i dont think is true. I have lived in texas and louisiana, and have been welcomed by both blacks and whites. But I have been called the n-word once in my life and it occured in the mid-atlantic region in a major city.
Originally Posted by thelio
You're saying you think the majority of 65 y/o White ppl in GA hold no racial biases against Black ppl? If so, then yes, I would def say my 95% would be closer to the reality than your 45 or less %. Remember, GA still had enforced segregation in some of its counties as recently as 1990. GA is a pretty hardcore racist state.

Saying a White person welcomed you somewhere doesn't mean anything. You don't think Paula Deen smiled and schmoozed and welcomed Black ppl into her restaurants and on her show? I'm sure she was very welcoming. That is not a negation of someone holding racist attitudes and beliefs.

Racism in the midAtlantic is beside the point; of course it exists and is rampant, too...but that's neither here nor there in this conversation. Maybe 98% of Whites in the midAtlantic are racist. Maybe 68% Maybe 18%. Doesn't negate or support the claim that the majority of old White Georgians are.
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Last edited by spiderlashes5000; 06-26-2013 at 08:00 AM.
Hey folks please don't think that when u go to Georgia it's a battlefield, lol. Lived their since I was 1 and have never encountered overt racism. But I do understand the 65 year old and still having racist notions. That is quite common but I think that's everywhere though.
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Hey folks please don't think that when u go to Georgia it's a battlefield, lol. Lived their since I was 1 and have never encountered overt racism. But I do understand the 65 year old and still having racist notions. That is quite common but I think that's everywhere though.
Originally Posted by gagirl09
I won't

Much of my family went straight off the boat to Georgia and stayed once they worked off their debts (Commerce and Athens), and one of my brother lived and worked in Macon for several years, and I visited him every summer. I just met a bunch of nice people, and some pretty cool ones in Athens.
When I hear terms like "hipster" I think, who told cliques they could leave high school??

It's true, you can't generalize how individuals from the South are just because that is the way the media portrays it. I can confidently say that coming from the North East, I experience a lot of racism. It is simply more passive, which doesn't make it any better.

Also, coming from a top-down perspective, I live in CT and get more racial comments and stares than when I visited GA. Now I understand visiting is different than living, but individuals (the deeper in the backwoods as I got, oddly) the people were more nicer. I remember my misconception before I visited was that there was going to be a lot of racial tension. My friend kept telling me to "be careful" because the KKK will hang me (yes, she said that and I am bi-racial as a side note). Once I got there, it wasn't like what I put in my head. I experience it A LOT more here in CT.
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Isn't she the one that used the racial slur while planning her brother's wedding. Called the waitstaff the N-word.

I never liked her. And I'm not surprised at all the white people freaking out about it. How dare they not be able to use the N-word amongst themselves. [/sarcasm]
Originally Posted by Curlyminx

this x 91 billion.


This is exactly what is being complained about the most, "so what if paula deen used it, black people do it all the time, why can't we too?"

Swerve.
A comment made on my FB page....

Im not racist or prejudice. But we pay millions to hear black comedians say cracka, honky, *******, redneck...on stage and on tv...and in the movies...and laugh about it all day. But let one white person say one thing thats taken offensive and they lose their show? Hypocrites
And that is a person who doesn't understand institutionalized racism.
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I wasn't putting 95% out there as an exact scientific calculation. I suppose your guesstimate is as good as my guesstimate, as there is never really any definitive way of knowing how many Americans are racist and are not, esp as there is not even agreement on the definition of "racism." My point was just that PD's comments and attitudes are typical of her cohort.
Originally Posted by spiderlashes5000
I figure that. but your guestimation of 95% to me is saying that you believe most white people in the south are racist. Which i dont think is true. I have lived in texas and louisiana, and have been welcomed by both blacks and whites. But I have been called the n-word once in my life and it occured in the mid-atlantic region in a major city.
Originally Posted by thelio
You're saying you think the majority of 65 y/o White ppl in GA hold no racial biases against Black ppl? If so, then yes, I would def say my 95% would be closer to the reality than your 45 or less %. Remember, GA still had enforced segregation in some of its counties as recently as 1990. GA is a pretty hardcore racist state.

Saying a White person welcomed you somewhere doesn't mean anything. You don't think Paula Deen smiled and schmoozed and welcomed Black ppl into her restaurants and on her show? I'm sure she was very welcoming. That is not a negation of someone holding racist attitudes and beliefs.

Racism in the midAtlantic is beside the point; of course it exists and is rampant, too...but that's neither here nor there in this conversation. Maybe 98% of Whites in the midAtlantic are racist. Maybe 68% Maybe 18%. Doesn't negate or support the claim that the majority of old White Georgians are.
Originally Posted by spiderlashes5000
I guess we can agree to disagree. I will never say that most of the old white people any where are racist until i meet most of them and find out otherwise. I always presume the best in everywhere until proven otherwise. I never judge people based on where they are from, race, background, ect. Assuming most of the old white people in the south are racist is no better then assuming its ok to pay a black man in alcohol imo. its all based on stereotypes, which i dont dig.
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I guess we can agree to disagree. I will never say that most of the old white people any where are racist until i meet most of them and find out otherwise. I always presume the best in everywhere until proven otherwise. I never judge people based on where they are from, race, background, ect. Assuming most of the old white people in the south are racist is no better then assuming its ok to pay a black man in alcohol imo. its all based on stereotypes, which i dont dig.
Originally Posted by thelio
Based on my experience, I always prepare and assume the worst until proven otherwise. I'm not saying I've not been given the best most of the time, but I don't want to unpleasantly surprised or have my mood ruined the whole day like others have. It's really not a big deal. People might not call me names but we've been denied service and felt uncomfortable at some places. I have faced it a few times, in parts of ga and panama city/ft walton area.

I figure that. but your guestimation of 95% to me is saying that you believe most white people in the south are racist. Which i dont think is true. I have lived in texas and louisiana, and have been welcomed by both blacks and whites. But I have been called the n-word once in my life and it occured in the mid-atlantic region in a major city.
Originally Posted by thelio
You're saying you think the majority of 65 y/o White ppl in GA hold no racial biases against Black ppl? If so, then yes, I would def say my 95% would be closer to the reality than your 45 or less %. Remember, GA still had enforced segregation in some of its counties as recently as 1990. GA is a pretty hardcore racist state.

Saying a White person welcomed you somewhere doesn't mean anything. You don't think Paula Deen smiled and schmoozed and welcomed Black ppl into her restaurants and on her show? I'm sure she was very welcoming. That is not a negation of someone holding racist attitudes and beliefs.

Racism in the midAtlantic is beside the point; of course it exists and is rampant, too...but that's neither here nor there in this conversation. Maybe 98% of Whites in the midAtlantic are racist. Maybe 68% Maybe 18%. Doesn't negate or support the claim that the majority of old White Georgians are.
Originally Posted by spiderlashes5000
I guess we can agree to disagree. I will never say that most of the old white people any where are racist until i meet most of them and find out otherwise. I always presume the best in everywhere until proven otherwise. I never judge people based on where they are from, race, background, ect. Assuming most of the old white people in the south are racist is no better then assuming its ok to pay a black man in alcohol imo. its all based on stereotypes, which i dont dig.
Originally Posted by thelio
IDK what the bolded means.

But I'm not stereotyping. I'm looking at the way they White Southerners have voted and their de facto segregation as a whole. White ppl in the south existed in a culture of complete racial segregation and oppression of African Americans until at least 40 yrs ago. It was that way bc they wanted it that way. (A governor called in a fully armed battalion of Nat'l Guard soldiers to block 9 kids from entering an all-White school! Mayors ordered their police chiefs to turn dogs and hoses on law abiding citizens. And all White juries freed White defendants known to have killed and raped and castrated innocent African American on a regular basis. That's not about judging ppl. That's factual.)
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A comment made on my FB page....

Im not racist or prejudice. But we pay millions to hear black comedians say cracka, honky, *******, redneck...on stage and on tv...and in the movies...and laugh about it all day. But let one white person say one thing thats taken offensive and they lose their show? Hypocrites
Originally Posted by Lotsawaves
I think it's because black people have been called names and made fun of for centuries and till this day we are still being ridiculed. Go to a foreign country like South Korea and they will call you so many racial slurs and to them it's acceptable to call you that.

The thing is when a black person makes a joke about a white person or generalizes them. They have the biggest fit ever and the thing they said wasn't even out of line.
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A comment made on my FB page....

Im not racist or prejudice. But we pay millions to hear black comedians say cracka, honky, *******, redneck...on stage and on tv...and in the movies...and laugh about it all day. But let one white person say one thing thats taken offensive and they lose their show? Hypocrites
Originally Posted by Lotsawaves
Personally I find this kind of thing tasteless and inappropriate. IMO, it's indefensible. However, it does not begin to approach the level of seriousness as PD and other White racists' comments 1) due to the imbalance of power btwn Whites and Blacks as groups in this country and 2) bc comedians are in the business of making outrageous and offensive comments to elicit cheap laughs; audiences know their schtick and if they enjoy that type of humor, they buy tickets.
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