Paula Deen's racist comments

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The only reason why she's apologizing is because she got caught and now she's paying the price with losing all this sponsors.
PerriP, I've posted that link to all the Deen lover's on my FB page. All they are talking about is her "slip of the tongue" 30 years ago.
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Ya I really wish the media would talk about the other terrible things she's said/done in general not just this word and the deposition, but the media stays useless.
Originally Posted by annabananalise
Yes they do. I read 4 or 5 articles, and caught countless news clips, before I finally heard that Lisa Jackson worked for Bubba, and some with Paula, from 2005-2010. The rest was "The Enquirer Reports"... Oh Lard. :-/

I don't always have the chance to hear everything when I have the news on, or listen to/watch/read everything I would like to, but that's just silly. Out of all the stuff I did see, someone could have given some more factoids about the case.

And thank you Perry for posting that. The article I mentioned above also had the full deposition linked. I did not get to finish reading all of it, but did read a large part.

I want everything about the investigation into this and the day in court that will come to go smoothly, be fair, be honest, and not he influenced... For anyone. I don't want to see it screwed with to the point of no return. This type of thing can be damaging, in many ways. If other employees back this up (all the claims of unfair wages, to forcing employees to watch porn (wtf? i would have been out then), to making specific employees use different bathrooms and entrances, to ...), and it is found to be true, I want her and Bubba hammered. To the fullest extent.
When I hear terms like "hipster" I think, who told cliques they could leave high school??


Last edited by Fifi.G; 07-01-2013 at 04:01 PM.
FiFi, I don't think it will matter to the Deen Fan Club what evidence is presented. If the ex-employee is telling the truth then these people need to go down. Including her sons. And especially her brother. I remember her having her brother on her show after there were some alleged sexual harassment accusations against him. He came off like a "good 'ol boy".
FiFi, I don't think it will matter to the Deen Fan Club what evidence is presented. If the ex-employee is telling the truth then these people need to go down. Including her sons. And especially her brother. I remember her having her brother on her show after there were some alleged sexual harassment accusations against him. He came off like a "good 'ol boy".
Originally Posted by Lotsawaves


^yea


I thought companies were supposed to go by "what we permit, we promote" as in if You (paula) let this stuff go on and didn't stop it, when it first came out, then you are just as responsible, (because that's another defense from the PD Fanclub, "that's her brother not her!!!") as he is.
Anytime I saw him on her show he appeared to be trashed out of his gourd. I know that much. So I know that part could go along with Lisa Jackson saying he was drunk at work most of the time.

I agree, Lotsa. They absolutely need to go down if this is found to be true. I am not sure who the other family member is that they keep mentioning. I don't get the impression that it is her sons, but ... who knows. Regardless, anyone responsible needs to be held accountable. I do not doubt that things go on that people are un aware of. Especially when you have 20 billion restaurants of your own, are part owner of your brothers restaurants, a few shows, books, magazines, etc... You can't be everywhere, but if a pattern in several of those restaurants is in fact proved, you would have to be partially aware.
When I hear terms like "hipster" I think, who told cliques they could leave high school??


Last edited by Fifi.G; 07-01-2013 at 04:18 PM.
Read # 24 & 25 in the atlawblog PerriP posted. May not be racism, but is prejudice against women. It's funny because both her sons appear to be such "mama boys."
Read # 24 & 25 in the atlawblog PerriP posted. May not be racism, but is prejudice against women. It's funny because both her sons appear to be such "mama boys."
Originally Posted by Lotsawaves
Thank you. Will do. I've got it ready to read over.

** I just read a little past those two. Good grief @ the boys club allegation. Yes, they need to be dealt with too, if found to be true.

The second casino restaurant that Lisa Jackson was in charge of managing is the one in WNC. That is the one I was talking about. It has been awful from the start, from what I have heard. First word of mouth was avoid, avoid, avoid. Customers can clearly see that over 20 tables are not being bussed during an hour long wait, the food is cold and they never have enough, it's over $20 per person for the buffet, you are rarely checked on by your server, often the menu items were sold old and a bare bones buffet was the only option you had... On and on.

Literally, I have heard 2 people say good things about it since the moment in opened. I have quite a drive to get to new restaurants, in any direction, so I listened to the warnings. I'm not going to waste gas for that.

Ok, back to my reading...
When I hear terms like "hipster" I think, who told cliques they could leave high school??


Last edited by Fifi.G; 07-01-2013 at 05:00 PM.

Second aside... I can't believe after this many days that this thread isn't a) 38 pages and b) locked. This is not the nc of old!
Originally Posted by Amneris
I was thinking that as well! I love that this has been maturely discussed without all the other crap that usually happens
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Ugh. The allegations against Bubba and the accountant are despicable, and Paula's are not much better (or the family friend/manager). I do not care what someone said. No way could I subject myself to 5 years employment with a drunken jerk who made racist comments, threatened people, watched porn in the office with me, on and on and on. I would have recorded some of that and walked on out.

I was looking at what could immediately be dismissed as hear say, and wondering who Lisa Jackson has in her corner otherwise. Obviously, not the accountant, which would be beneficial when it comes to the claims of employee's being paid less, and her bonuses being cut because she got divorced and he did not agree with it.

As the ending states, they want this tried in front of 12. All I could think was... good luck finding 12 impartial people. That is not an easy task when it is the center of a media circus.

Now I need to finish the deposition.
When I hear terms like "hipster" I think, who told cliques they could leave high school??


Last edited by Fifi.G; 07-01-2013 at 08:24 PM.
I'm gay. I also don't believe in using the word f****t or f**. Some gay people want to reclaim the word. Good for them, but it ignorant. Its historically based in hate.

It depends what groups of people the term n***a is acceptable. And just because its more acceptable, doesn't mean it should be used.

My ex was hispanic and used the n word. Never was acceptable. I don't care if the whole lot of her friends used that word. THE WHOLE LOT OF THEM were wrong. Oppressing themselves, why? Because they think they are reclaiming the word. Nah man. you are just perpetuating the use of the word and the history.



How about all the non-white people just go buy confederate flags now? Why not. [/sarcasm]
Originally Posted by Curlyminx
This is a conversation I have been a part of on more than one occasion, but the gay friends I have who use it have no I am reclaiming the word agenda. It is something they rarely use outside of a silly or stupid context, which was how they heard it 99% of the time (omg, your left ear is pierced...) unless you get some of them started on Pride or groups where you have a parade. The loners are not very keen on functions.

My best friend calls me everything under the sun, and f*g is one of them. It's got everything to do with the word being thrown around, non stop, when we were younger (again, dumba** reasons) and him not offending easy.

Then I have the group of friends who have a heart attack every time he or someone else says it. I'm just like look... You all heard it, whatever!! Leave me out of it. I'm just here for makeup and outfit advice. Duh.

**And no, it's not a word I say**

Pardon my sidetrack.
When I hear terms like "hipster" I think, who told cliques they could leave high school??


Last edited by Fifi.G; 07-02-2013 at 08:33 AM.
I can't deny my having used it as a kid. It was stupid and I'm ashamed of it.

And as an adult, I've called a couple of guys that when I was drunk and obnoxious because you can really piss of a heterosexual drunk man by calling him f****t. But I realized how messed up I was for having used the word. But I know that people use it. I just hate it. Hate hate hate.

While its not ok to use the word, if anyone is going to use it, gay men should be the ones to use it. But hopefully stopping the use of the term amongst themselves as soon as possible. We need to kill words like that. Just let them die.

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^ Oh God, it was everywhere. It was in 70% of the (pre teen/teen) movies, etc. It flew out of so many kids mouth, just from simple repeating what you hear stupidity. Of course it came out for more vicious reasons as well.

My gay male friends who say it, will never stop saying it. I'm quite sure of that, but I am not going to argue with them about it. That's for sure. Thankfully I have incredibly open minded and good hearted straight male friends because I will fight with someone else about it.
When I hear terms like "hipster" I think, who told cliques they could leave high school??


Last edited by Fifi.G; 07-02-2013 at 11:04 AM.
This answered my questions about other employee's supporting Lisa Jacksons racism claims in the case.

http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/3745436

I'll be curious to see what happens on the sexual harassment front.
When I hear terms like "hipster" I think, who told cliques they could leave high school??

Jackson, at best, "is an accidental victim of the alleged racial discrimination," Moore said in his ruling. "There are no allegations that defendant Hiers's racially offensive comments were either directed toward plaintiff or made with the intent to harass her.

I can understand that she can't sue about the racism since it wasn't directed at her, but it did make for an uncomfortable work environment for her. Plus she did say she had bi-racial nieces, so she took offense. I would too! I wish others would come forward who did have the racism directed at them, but I doubt this will happen, unfortunately.

I hope they can at least get sexual harassment charges against Bubba and show that Paula was aware of it and did nothing to deter it.

I heard her sons weren't being affected by this and one of them is going to be on Iron Chef or some food network show soon. Maybe they shouldn't be penalized, but at this point I don't like the whole lot. Especially reading about the "boys club."

I honestly think she will get off and this will fade and she will make a comeback.

ETA: I'm just sick of racism. Yesterday one of our patients was telling me she really liked her new job, because there were no Mexicans working there. She couldn't stand working with Mexicans, because you know how they are. I said, "No, I don't. How are they?" She didn't give me an answer. She just continued talking about how good her new job was. I would have pressured her, but she's a patient.
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Last edited by Lotsawaves; 08-15-2013 at 10:00 AM.
Jackson, at best, "is an accidental victim of the alleged racial discrimination," Moore said in his ruling. "There are no allegations that defendant Hiers's racially offensive comments were either directed toward plaintiff or made with the intent to harass her.

I can understand that she can't sue about the racism since it wasn't directed at her, but it did make for an uncomfortable work environment for her. Plus she did say she had bi-racial nieces, so she took offense. I would too! I wish others would come forward who did have the racism directed at them, but I doubt this will happen, unfortunately.
Originally Posted by Lotsawaves
See, that wasn't my understanding of how hostile environment type harrassment claims work. I thought anyone could claim the harrassment, whether or not the slurs or behavior was directed at them or at a group they belong to, irrespective of whether they have relatives in that group or whatever. I am calling BS on that ruling.

I honestly think she will get off and this will fade and she will make a comeback.
Originally Posted by Lotsawaves
I'm not out for blood here bc, like a previous poster said, the real value is in the "learning moment" this creates and not in nailing one person to the wall (when thousands of guilty of the same thing). Let her make a come back. But at least let a formal ruling be made that acknowledges the behavior as harrassing and totally unacceptable.
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My concern is if she is able to make a come back it will show that what she did is OK. It will all just be swept under the rug.
From Michael Berg:

Every person has a unique connection to the Creator that can never be extinguished, and every person has a great soul that can manifest important things in our world. To make a person feel less than they are because of something inside themselves, be it faith, race, or sexual orientation, is the greatest sin of all."
My concern is if she is able to make a come back it will show that what she did is OK. It will all just be swept under the rug.
Originally Posted by Lotsawaves
I don't think it will ever be forgotten. Kinda like Martha Stewart...she's back in the game but I betcha she won't be making that same mistake again. LOL
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Yes, but Martha went to prison. It was shown that what she did was wrong and she paid the price.
From Michael Berg:

Every person has a unique connection to the Creator that can never be extinguished, and every person has a great soul that can manifest important things in our world. To make a person feel less than they are because of something inside themselves, be it faith, race, or sexual orientation, is the greatest sin of all."
Yes, but Martha went to prison. It was shown that what she did was wrong and she paid the price.
Originally Posted by Lotsawaves
Yeah, I would want PD to be found guilty and be made to pay punative damages.
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