update #63: Ok, so apparently...

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I'm sending my thoughts and love to you!! Congratulations on being a grandma!!
I have nothing constructive to offer re your concerns and questions but will keep you in my thoughts, your positive attitude is a credit to you.
And many congrats on becoming a grandma - is it a girl or boy grandbaby?
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And many congrats on becoming a grandma - is it a girl or boy grandbaby?
Originally Posted by Starmie
They don't know yet. I think the next sonogram will show them, which isn't for another 5 weeks or so. My DIL wants to be surprised, buy my son wants no parts of that. He cracks me up...so type A..."I don't want neutral, I need to know whether to decorate pink or blue." "Come on <insert name of DIL here>. We need to go to bed, but you need to do some push-ups and eat some vegetables first because my baby's coming out STRONG!" (kidding, of course!) She just rolls her eyes and shakes her head
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I am the master of my fate: I am the captain of my soul. (Invictus - William Ernest Henley)

Just think I used to worry 'bout things like that,
Used to worry 'bout rich and skinny, 'til I wound up poor and fat,
Nowadays I kind of worry where my mind's been at,
Just think I used to worry 'bout things like that. (Delbert McClinton - I Used to Worry from Never Been Rocked Enough)
Wishing you the best VTgrandmom! I have no answers to your questions, but I will be sending you positive thoughts.

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I too have nothing constructive to add apart from many positive thoughts. I hope the surgery is successful - please keep us posted.

And congrats on the grandbun in the oven
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(((Hugs))).
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I don't have any advice to offer...sounds like you've gotten some good advice here though. I am sorry to hear of your coming ordeal, but I have ever faith that you'll get through it with grace and dignity. I'll be thinking of you.
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I'm so sorry you're going through this.
Congratulations on the little one due to arrive, that is really wonderful.
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I'm a (long time) lurker but had to comment here, to tell you how sorry I am to know you're going through this but to commend what truly seems to be a realistic, positive, courageous approach. I believe with my whole being that this is going to be the catalyst for the best possible outcome for you.

I was diagnosed with breast cancer in Dec 2011, and also had bilateral mastectomy with immediate reconstruction. My cancer was caught by the wildest fluke, and therefore so early that I needed neither radiation nor chemo.

However, I did go through the surgeries (including a salpingo-oophorectomy).

I realize that my post surgical treatment was different from yours, so I can only comment on the surgical aspect, but I wanted to share with you that I found the entire experience very non-traumatic and very doable.

Do not dread the drains. The idea of the drains (and everything else) is much worse than it turns out to be as you're going through it.

Please feel free to PM me at any time, especially if you would like to chat about post-surgical care tips to make things easier on yourself.

Whatever happens, you can (and will) handle it.

Rebecca

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Thank you all so much for the well wishes and love...I can feel it!

Rebecca, I was so glad to read that your experience with drains was not as bad as you expected. That allays my fears a bit...
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The smallest deed is greater than the grandest intention.

I am the master of my fate: I am the captain of my soul. (Invictus - William Ernest Henley)

Just think I used to worry 'bout things like that,
Used to worry 'bout rich and skinny, 'til I wound up poor and fat,
Nowadays I kind of worry where my mind's been at,
Just think I used to worry 'bout things like that. (Delbert McClinton - I Used to Worry from Never Been Rocked Enough)
I do not have knowledge in this so I can not offer any words of wisdom. I do send my love to you and will keep you in my thoughts and prayers. Congratulations on your grandbaby

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(((VTmom))) Congratulations on the first grand baby!! And for having an incredibly positive (and prepared) spirit.

Please keep us updated, and know that you are being thought of.
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When I hear terms like "hipster" I think, who told cliques they could leave high school??

VTmom, I just got back from vacation and saw this. I am so sorry you got bad news. You have a great outlook and I am sure you will weather this very well. You sound like me - wondering when you can work out! I did something kinda stupid and badly sprained my foot the day before we returned from Bermuda and thought - dang, now I can't work out! Actually, I can't really drive either which is probably worse. I wish you the absolute best of luck and the grandchild news couldn't have come at a better time! Congratulations and keep us posted please.
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I asked my sister about drain pockets and shaving. She said she hasn't been able to shave under her arms since her mastectomy but the hair didn't really grew back anyway. She has fairly severe lymphedema so she always wears her compression sleeves and doesn't wear tank tops so it's not as much of an issue now.

She said when she had the mastectomy, she just wore a string around her neck in the shower and hooked the drains onto it somehow. However, when she had reconstruction last summer, they gave her a pocket that hung around her neck that she could wear in the shower. She said that worked really well. She also raved about adhesive pockets like these that she found on Etsy.

I hope this helps.
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mrs.p...thank you so much for relaying my concerns to your sister. You don't know how much I appreciate that Is her lymphedema due to the removal of lymph nodes, or something else? This is another concern of mine because I understand that it's painful and will never go away I'm going to check out those pockets on etsy...thanks!
The smallest deed is greater than the grandest intention.

I am the master of my fate: I am the captain of my soul. (Invictus - William Ernest Henley)

Just think I used to worry 'bout things like that,
Used to worry 'bout rich and skinny, 'til I wound up poor and fat,
Nowadays I kind of worry where my mind's been at,
Just think I used to worry 'bout things like that. (Delbert McClinton - I Used to Worry from Never Been Rocked Enough)
Best wishes for a speedy recovery.

And congratulations, grandma!
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mrs.p...thank you so much for relaying my concerns to your sister. You don't know how much I appreciate that Is her lymphedema due to the removal of lymph nodes, or something else? This is another concern of mine because I understand that it's painful and will never go away I'm going to check out those pockets on etsy...thanks!
Originally Posted by VTmom
Her lymphedema is due to the removal of lymph nodes. She had quite a few removed because the cancer had spread. It was already bad but then it got worse after she had breast reconstruction. Please don't worry yourself about it. Some women don't get it at all. There is also good news on this front. She mentioned yesterday that there is a cutting edge lymph node transplant surgery now. She just needs to decide if she wants to go through yet another surgery.

One thing that was helpful with the surgery itself was guided meditation. If you find you're getting nervous or stressed, google free guided meditation for surgery. You can download it to your ipod and listen to it when you're in pre-op.

Whatever questions you have, please feel fee to ask. I can always ask her if I don't know or remember the answer.
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When are women going to face the fact that they donít know their own bodies as well as men who have heard things?

Don Langrick
Bonsai Culturist
Please don't worry yourself about it. Some women don't get it at all. There is also good news on this front. She mentioned yesterday that there is a cutting edge lymph node transplant surgery now. She just needs to decide if she wants to go through yet another surgery.

One thing that was helpful with the surgery itself was guided meditation. If you find you're getting nervous or stressed, google free guided meditation for surgery. You can download it to your ipod and listen to it when you're in pre-op.

Whatever questions you have, please feel fee to ask. I can always ask her if I don't know or remember the answer.
Originally Posted by mrspoppers
You, and your sis, are completely awesome...thank you sooooo much! I'm starting to get a wee bit anxious. I told my husband yesterday that I was really going to have to think about what I wanted for dinner sunday night (the night before my surgery) because I'm already afraid I'll be in a knot. Last time I was at the surgeon's office, I asked him for something to take the night before, which he gladly gave me. Now I kinda wish I'd asked for something to take the week before I'm definitely going to check out the meditation for surgery to download.

Tomorrow night, some friends from the school where I work have planned a Team <insert my name here> get together at a local restaurant so they can see me pre surgery. Since we're out of school for the summer, I won't see a lot of them again until...I don't know when. It's highly unlikely that I'll go back for at least several months. I'm really looking forward to that (the dinner, that is).

Oh, one more thing, did your sister lose her hair? If so, did she shave it when it started to fall out? I'm thinking about my plan of action...I like being in control

Thanks again!
The smallest deed is greater than the grandest intention.

I am the master of my fate: I am the captain of my soul. (Invictus - William Ernest Henley)

Just think I used to worry 'bout things like that,
Used to worry 'bout rich and skinny, 'til I wound up poor and fat,
Nowadays I kind of worry where my mind's been at,
Just think I used to worry 'bout things like that. (Delbert McClinton - I Used to Worry from Never Been Rocked Enough)

Last edited by VTmom; 07-01-2013 at 06:36 PM.
That's great that your coworkers are taking you out. Teachers are awesome people.

She did lose all her hair. She had shoulder length hair when she had surgery and about a week after, she cut it short. It was just so difficult to shower and impossible to wash her hair herself. We have another sister who is a hairdresser so she would get her hair washed at the salon every few days.

Her hair started to fall out after a couple treatments and she shaved it off about a week after that. I think it was the second chemo drug that was especially hard on her hair so it wasn't bad until then. It was like, all of a sudden, her hair started falling out in handfuls. I believe it started to grow back about three months after chemo ended. You might find you want really short hair before it falls out. The smell of hair products could make you sick.

Hang in there, VTmom. You can do this!

ETA: I just remembered something that might make you feel better about the surgery. My sister can't take any narcotic pain relievers because they make her sick. All she was able to take for pain was ibuprofen and she still made it through just fine.
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When are women going to face the fact that they donít know their own bodies as well as men who have heard things?

Don Langrick
Bonsai Culturist

Last edited by mrspoppers; 07-01-2013 at 08:49 PM.
She had shoulder length hair when she had surgery and about a week after, she cut it short. It was just so difficult to shower and impossible to wash her hair herself.
Originally Posted by mrspoppers
Mine is a little above the shoulder, but I'm getting it cut quite a bit tomorrow for this very reason. I figure it will make washing it much easier. Then I think I'm going to get it cut to a couple of inches when I start chemo, and finally get it shaved when it starts to fall out. I'm thinking, although I could very well be wrong (hard to believe, but that has happened before ), that it may be easier to adapt to if I go a little at a time.

I can't believe your sister made it through okay with just OTC pain management...that's great. I've been told by many different sources to stay on top of the pain and take my meds regularly the first week or two. I hope I can tolerate them, as I haven't taken a painkiller in years. Also, I downloaded a meditation app to my phone last night...that was a good idea
The smallest deed is greater than the grandest intention.

I am the master of my fate: I am the captain of my soul. (Invictus - William Ernest Henley)

Just think I used to worry 'bout things like that,
Used to worry 'bout rich and skinny, 'til I wound up poor and fat,
Nowadays I kind of worry where my mind's been at,
Just think I used to worry 'bout things like that. (Delbert McClinton - I Used to Worry from Never Been Rocked Enough)

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