Zimmerman Trial Gone to Jury

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Some people seem to think this was at 2 am or something. It was 7pm. he was taking home treats to watch major ass bb game. I don't care if he wasn't a perfect kid. He was living there. He was minding his own business. He WAS DOING NOTHING WRONG when some ADULT WITH A GUN started following him. End if story. It was NOTHING he did. Half the kids in the country fit his story. They don't deserve to be tracked down and killed for WALKING HOME.
what was the kid doing in a gaited neighborhood?? I didn't watch the whole thing and didn't keep up to date on it all. So, I'm kind of trying to catch up on the facts. I hear that he was in a gaited neighborhood and George was doing a neighborhood watch and it went way out of control on both ends. I saw George's face all beat up.[/QUOTE]

"What was Trayvon doing in a 'gaited' neighborhood?" The same thing the misspelling of your word is doing inside of your sentence. Minding its own damn business.[/QUOTE]

Damn. This is so serious, but damn that was funny.

I needed that.

Anyway, I'm sure he didn't climb the damn fence or anything, and people walk through my neighborhood all day- I have yet to chase one down get my ass kicked and have to resort to shooting them. If they're just walking, I mind my own damn business. Every young black man is not a threat.

What's funny is when it all went down, he wanted everyone to know of his Latino heritage...

Bet the day before he wasn't bragging about it so much.


Point is, walking in a neighborhood you don't live in, wearing a hoodie, and being black is not a good enough reason to be attacked and shot.
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Although I am deeply hurt and angered by the jury's decision, this may actually be best for Zimmerman. The jury said he wasn't guilty, but he is still guilty in the public's opinion. That means he can't go anywhere, or do anything because people will always remember who he is and what he did to Trayvon Martin. He would have been safer in a jail/prison cell. He will never be a truly free man because he will be forever hindered by (if any) guilt that he may possess about his actions, and the public's view of him. It will be a long time before anyone forgets this.

Another note: I was watching CNN and a member of the prosecution team stated that the screaming stopped when the gun fired. Doesn't this clearly mean that the person screaming was Trayvon? Moreover, if a grown man is fighting a 17-year-old boy, since when will the older and bigger/stronger male scream "Get off!" Wouldn't the boy be the one screaming? I asked my father about it, and he said that if he was in that situation (hypothetically) that he, as a grown man, would not yell "Get off." That sounds like a cry from a boy. During the trial, people seemed to forget that Trayvon was a boy. Not a man. A boy. But African American males are not seen as boys or children once they hit a certain age. I just feel that Trayvon was dehumanized during the trial.

Zimmerman should have been charged. I nearly cried last night when I heard the verdict. I emailed the President and asked if he could do anything about it, but I don't expect him to. America has made NO progress in the last 50+ years. If Trayvon had been white and Zimmerman black, they would have convicted him.
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Another note: I was watching CNN and a member of the prosecution team stated that the screaming stopped when the gun fired. Doesn't this clearly mean that the person screaming was Trayvon? Moreover, if a grown man is fighting a 17-year-old boy, since when will the older and bigger/stronger male scream "Get off!" Wouldn't the boy be the one screaming?
Originally Posted by ElizabethFaith
Excellent point. One other thing I noticed during the defense closing: Mark O'Marra stated that the police had picked up a number of people (all of whom were black males) in connection with the recent burglaries in the neighborhood. Yet Zimmerman stated that "these *******s" always get away", despite the fact that law enforcement had been doing its job quite nicely without his assistance. I wish the prosecution had seized on this contradiction, along with many others in Zimmerman's version of events.
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I fully believe that if Zimmerman were to have been black, he would have been convicted immediately, and found guilty of at least manslaughter. A horrible case presented by the prosecution, a jury that was not diverse in the slightest, and a huge flaw in the judicial system. I cannot believe another murderer in Florida is set free. Truely saddening.
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what was the kid doing in a gaited neighborhood?? I didn't watch the whole thing and didn't keep up to date on it all. So, I'm kind of trying to catch up on the facts. I hear that he was in a gaited neighborhood and George was doing a neighborhood watch and it went way out of control on both ends. I saw George's face all beat up.[/QUOTE]

"What was Trayvon doing in a 'gaited' neighborhood?" The same thing the misspelling of your word is doing inside of your sentence. Minding its own damn business.[/QUOTE]

The snark wasn't necessary, she said she wasn't following the case.
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One other thing I noticed during the defense closing: Mark O'Marra stated that the police had picked up a number of people (all of whom were black males) in connection with the recent burglaries in the neighborhood. Yet Zimmerman stated that "these *******s" always get away", despite the fact that law enforcement had been doing its job quite nicely without his assistance. I wish the prosecution had seized on this contradiction, along with many others in Zimmerman's version of events.
Originally Posted by yossarian
I'm surprised they didn't go with some sort of mental issue defense. Seems like he wasn't all there.

I also agree with ElizabethFaith, his life is over whether in a jail cell or not.

A guy (may have been her attorney) on the radio this morning was saying Casey Anthony is in total financial ruin now and cannot go out in public with out fear. Sounds almost as bad as a jail cell.
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Last edited by CurlyCanadian; 07-15-2013 at 09:58 AM.
So....do hide your kids.

Don't look "suspicious", whatever that means:

Don't be walking in the rain talking on your cell phone like a ne'er-do-well.
Don't wear hoodies or other "thug wear".

Do start a fight, take a beating, pull out your weapon, and end it.
Originally Posted by curlyarca
Don't forget to NEVER buy Skittles or Arizona tea, ever.

The prosecution did a horrible job in my opinion, but honestly how do you acquit someone of all charges when they shot the victim because that victim was defending himself after being pursued by the guy. After the guy pursued said person willingly even though he was advised against it. Even though the victim was just walking home. OH BUT WAIT, HE LOOKED SO SUSPICIOUS ON HIS CELLPHONE WITH THAT TEA AND CANDY IN HIS HAND.

Which reminds me, I've been craving Crazy Core Skittles for the past week.
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what was the kid doing in a gaited neighborhood?? I didn't watch the whole thing and didn't keep up to date on it all. So, I'm kind of trying to catch up on the facts. I hear that he was in a gaited neighborhood and George was doing a neighborhood watch and it went way out of control on both ends. I saw George's face all beat up.
Originally Posted by BlackAngelPlayah
Actually, his stepmom lived there. He was walking home.
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what was the kid doing in a gaited neighborhood?? I didn't watch the whole thing and didn't keep up to date on it all. So, I'm kind of trying to catch up on the facts. I hear that he was in a gaited neighborhood and George was doing a neighborhood watch and it went way out of control on both ends. I saw George's face all beat up.
Originally Posted by CurlyCanadian
"What was Trayvon doing in a 'gaited' neighborhood?" The same thing the misspelling of your word is doing inside of your sentence. Minding its own damn business.[/QUOTE]

The snark wasn't necessary, she said she wasn't following the case.[/QUOTE]


It sounds insensitive. What was that black kid doing in a gated community? He couldn't actually afford to live there!

Eta: I don't think gated communities are an American "thing", but I know they are more common in the U.S. than some other countries. Maybe the asker is confused on what a gated community is and the implications of the question...??
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Last edited by Po; 07-15-2013 at 11:20 AM.
It sounds insensitive. What was that black kid doing in a gated community? He couldn't actually afford to live there!

Eta: I don't think gated communities are an American "thing", but I know they are more common in the U.S. than some other countries. Maybe the asker is confused on what a gated community is and the implications of the question...??
Originally Posted by Po
Ugh, the last reference to "gated community" I remember hearing was in the Oscar Pistorius case.
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Last edited by spiderlashes5000; 07-15-2013 at 11:48 AM.
I think most of us acknowledge that if TM had been White and GZ had been Black, the outcome would have been very different.

But what if they had both been Asian? What if we had listened to the testimony believing they were both Asian or maybe both White. Would the evidence have been strong enough to convict then?

(I don't even want to speculate if they had both been Black...doubtless anyone would really care...we'd never have heard of it and GZ would still be playing cards at County).

Of course, Asians and Whites aren't "profiled" the same way Blacks are so it's kind of a moot point (since racial profiling is the crux of this issue). But misunderstandings do arise and altercations happen btwn White and Asian ppl, and anyone be paranoid.
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I think the prosecution threw the case. It was like they weren't even trying to win, so unfortunately, I'm not surprised by the verdict


And, although I think Zimmerman will suffer, i also wonder how many people are happy and will support him. SMH
I think the prosecution threw the case. It was like they weren't even trying to win, so unfortunately, I'm not surprised by the verdict
Originally Posted by scrills
They threw it when they failed to put a single Black person in the jury box.

And, although I think Zimmerman will suffer, i also wonder how many people are happy and will support him. SMH
Originally Posted by scrills
It was rather amusing to read FB status updates from Black vs White FB friends this wknd.

A few White friends expressed mild disappointment or surprise at the verdit, and left it at that. But most White friends' posts were totally unrelated to this case...as if it wasn't happening.

I had only one White friend who was yammering about the F$*%(^) NAACP trying to "turn this thing into a race war." But from what I understand, many White ppl had that reaction.

But Black friends were crying and hollering and praying and philosophizing and quoting African proverbs and writing letters to their unborn children and changing their profile pics and organizing boycotts and withdrawing their savings from banks and on and on.
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what was the kid doing in a gaited neighborhood?? I didn't watch the whole thing and didn't keep up to date on it all. So, I'm kind of trying to catch up on the facts. I hear that he was in a gaited neighborhood and George was doing a neighborhood watch and it went way out of control on both ends. I saw George's face all beat up.
Originally Posted by CurlyCanadian
"What was Trayvon doing in a 'gaited' neighborhood?" The same thing the misspelling of your word is doing inside of your sentence. Minding its own damn business.
Originally Posted by Po
The snark wasn't necessary, she said she wasn't following the case.[/QUOTE]


It sounds insensitive. What was that black kid doing in a gated community? He couldn't actually afford to live there!

Eta: I don't think gated communities are an American "thing", but I know they are more common in the U.S. than some other countries. Maybe the asker is confused on what a gated community is and the implications of the question...??[/QUOTE]

The only gated community I have been in was in West Palm Beach. My Mom spends part of the winter with a friend there with her horses. We went down to visit and I must have been asked 5 times over a week who I was there staying with by different security guards.

If you're not familiar with the neighbourhoods, I see no insensitivity in the question. I think people are reading a lot more into what she asked.
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And, although I think Zimmerman will suffer, i also wonder how many people are happy and will support him. SMH[/QUOTE]

On the radio this morning, some guy was saying most of Zimmerman's lawyer fees had be paid by public donations. Who on earth donates to something like that?!?! Then I started thinking that maybe those same people will support him now. This world is so messed up

Is there a way to support Trayvon's family?
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I thought this was an interesting read....
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On the radio this morning, some guy was saying most of Zimmerman's lawyer fees had be paid by public donations. Who on earth donates to something like that?!?! Then I started thinking that maybe those same people will support him now. This world is so messed up

Is there a way to support Trayvon's family?
Originally Posted by scrills;2191051

And, although I think Zimmerman will suffer, i also wonder how many people are happy and will support him. SMH[/QUOTE
They wouldn't have the same legal expenses...unless they decide to go fwd w/ a civil suit. I think his family is asking for support in the form of advocacy and financial donations to support those efforts.
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They wouldn't have the same legal expenses...unless they decide to go fwd w/ a civil suit. I think his family is asking for support in the form of advocacy and financial donations to support those efforts.
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Awesome! Thanks
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I didn't follow the case very closely but from what I've heard, it was self defense and I figured they would come back with a not guilty verdict. There was no proof that it wasn't, right? I think the most important part was that they were not able to identify who was screaming on the 911 call. It seems the prosecution was harping on the fact that zimmerman was racist which is besides the point. It doesn't prove that he shot him for no reason.

I also was confused by the definition of manslaughter until I looked up. I'm guessing they meant voluntary manslaughter? Because I don't see how it's not involuntary manslaughter.

I am also extremely surprised there were no black women/men on the jurly. It just seems odd given the circumstances.

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