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Old 09-16-2013, 08:52 AM   #41
 
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I know several ppl whose names were butchered on their birth certificates by the Vital Statistics folks so their names are not exactly what their parents intended.

And sometimes accent marks were replaced by apostrophes bc there was no way to type accent marks...or in a couple of cases, the parents didn't know the difference.
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I think regardless of your race, you should give your child a proper name. I didn't realize till I worked for a gentleman whose daughter lived in Germany that you have to give your child an "approved" name there or else it may be rejected by the government. Sometimes I think that is not such a bad idea.

German First Names and Official Approval - Das Standesamt

But what is a proper name to you or your culture? Names have meanings for some cultures, and honestly I really like the way some people combine names to make a new name. The government better not tell me what to name my child...
I don't know for sure, but I think the government would work with you on a name that is cultural and possibly not on their approved list. I think they are just trying to keep people from giving their children "stupid" names.

I think the old standards are beautiful. I, for one, laugh when I hear some oddball name and feel sorry for the child. Sometimes parents exert their rights to the point that they hinder their children. Shame.
My kids have perfectly fine names. But if I wanted to name my child Julia and the government said I could only name them Juliet because of some approval list... I would be very upset. I am proud to live in a country where I dont have to choose my child's name from a list of government approved names.
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^^ I don't know, the German way doesn't sound like such a bad idea

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^^ I don't know, the German way doesn't sound like such a bad idea

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Then no more little Lakeishas or Maishas or De'vontes or Jamaals...bc research suggests they can hinder your corporate climb
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^^ of they could be less likely to get beat up on the playground

(1) it must reflect the sex of the child
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^^ of they could be less likely to get beat up on the playground

(1) it must reflect the sex of the child
Unisex names are such a trend now.

I don't like that one either.

How does the German gov't stay on top of it...doesn't Germany still have a huge international population? Esp from Turkey? Becoming German citizens? They are calling and writing all these countries' embassies and so forth, verifying the origins of all the ethnic names? Baby name books from every country at the birth certificate office? LOL

My parents met and married in Germany. I could have been Ingeborg! (I really could have; my father liked that name!)

No, thanks. Gov't, fall back!
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I do like unisex names (but for girls, not for boys)


And yes, they will research the name by contacting the home country
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Anybody from any stripe can have a name that's considered dumb or weird. However, to reiterate what somebody else said upthread, what's considered a dumb or weird name depends on the standards of the dominant culture. A number of names given to black children are considered "ghetto," dumb or weird mainly because black people are considered "other" in our society. I don't have a so called ghetto name, but it's not a common one either. My name has been misspelled and mispronounced too many times in my life to count. I hated it growing up, but now I'm okay with it as it's unique. I'm not sure I'd want to be one of three Tiffany's in a particular social circle now. At one point, I knew of not one but three Anthony's-one of them is my nephew, another one is a friend's ex and a third one is somebody in a couple of meetup groups I belong to. I'd probably find that disconcerting now.
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I do like unisex names (but for girls, not for boys)


And yes, they will research the name by contacting the home country
I didn't mean I don't like unisex names. LOL Just that I didn't like the second part of that German name rule any better than the first part. Like who is to say what name belongs to which gender anymore?

I don't mind some unisex names for boys: Lindsay, Lauren, Tracy...not terrible. But yes, it's easier to do w/ girls.
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I do like unisex names (but for girls, not for boys)


And yes, they will research the name by contacting the home country
I didn't mean I don't like unisex names. LOL Just that I didn't like the second part of that German name rule any better than the first part. Like who is to say what name belongs to which gender anymore?

I don't mind some unisex names for boys: Lindsay, Lauren, Tracy...not terrible. But yes, it's easier to do w/ girls.
The German rule unisex rule is stupid however it's also racist.

I have a Sikh friend who pointed out to me lots of Sikh names are unisex like his. Luckily he hasn't worked in Germany.

Likewise lots of cultures make up names. A name has to come from somewhere. For example the first lot of parents who feminised a male name i.e. "Henry", "David", "Nigel" made up the name. ("Henrietta", "Davina", "Nigella" )

The issue in the US is clearly racism. The names are being laughed at plainly and simply because the people are Black.

I'm not American so find some US names wealthy middle-class White people give their kids equally as laughable* and in fact more odd i.e. giving your kid what appears to be a surname as their first name, naming your child after a place which is someone else's surname....

Least if the first name is made up it's clearly a first name and is less likely to mean something like 'black haired' or 'of the river' in an ancient language as a surname does.

*I don't laugh at peoples names.

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This is always an interesting conversation. Mostly because I don't think people realize their privilege in labeling which names are "weird" and which are "acceptable." When you think about it, most names sound weird but we don't label them as such because they are rooted in some sort of meaning and we are used to hearing them. I mean, is there a huge difference in the sounds between Alicia/Alisha and Talisha, for example? Not really.

My name, Layali, is pronounced like Layli and is a derivative from the word meaning night in arabic. Another more "acceptable" version of my name is Layla. You won't believe how many people have asked me if my parents made my name up. Nope.

I always cringe when people play "the-weird-name-I-heard-lately" game. It always smacks of labeling someone as "other," because in most cases that person is an "other" (celebrities, not included, of course).

Personally, I believe as the U.S. becomes increasingly more multicultural and our culture changes, we have to drop the expectation that folks assimilate in "acceptable" ways.
I love your name.
My youngest daughter is named Layla, and we spend a fair amount of time using Layli as a nickname. People constantly try to spell her name in a more unusual manner.

How she got her name is a whole different story.
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I do like unisex names (but for girls, not for boys)


And yes, they will research the name by contacting the home country
I didn't mean I don't like unisex names. LOL Just that I didn't like the second part of that German name rule any better than the first part. Like who is to say what name belongs to which gender anymore?

I don't mind some unisex names for boys: Lindsay, Lauren, Tracy...not terrible. But yes, it's easier to do w/ girls.
I was agreeing with you about the unisex names, especially for girls. for boys, I don't like them as much because I have several male friends with names like Dana and Leslie and they weren't too happy about it. But names change gender over time as well
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^ That can be an issue. Giving your male son a name that may typically be known as female can be rather popular in my town. One of my oldest friends has a grand total of 5 names, and one of them is Meredith. I love it, especially when used with his whole name, but he hates it. I also have a few old classmates/guy friends with the middle name Ashley, and they loathe it. Your child will be taunted to hell and back over a name like that.

Kids can be mean, we all know this.
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Yes, I've met girls called "Garrison" or "Logan". Aren't these surnames? As if there were not enough beautiful girl names!!
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All this reminds me of the Johnny Cash song "A Boy Named Sue." Anyone else remember that?
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All this reminds me of the Johnny Cash song "A Boy Named Sue." Anyone else remember that?
No, but I remember "Me and you and a Dog Named Boo!"
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Yes, I've met girls called "Garrison" or "Logan". Aren't these surnames? As if there were not enough beautiful girl names!!
I named my daughter what would be considered a "cute" surname...in the hopes that it can now be thought of also as a cute girl's first name.
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Yes, I've met girls called "Garrison" or "Logan". Aren't these surnames? As if there were not enough beautiful girl names!!
But if you want to give your girl an unique name then only they will do.

BTW what do they mean?
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I read that Lauren, Lindsay, Ashley, and Beverly were primarily male names in the early part of the 1900s. a hundred years later, they were only female names.
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I read that Lauren, Lindsay, Ashley, and Beverly were primarily male names in the early part of the 1900s. a hundred years later, they were only female names.
Predominantly female now...I actually know guys w/ all of those names! LOL Well, Beverly is a middle name and the others are all first names. And, except for Beverly, they all like their names.
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