Why do people think curvy = fat?

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Just a rant but the title of this article is so annoying and wrong -

Beautiful but deadly: Latinos' curves put them at risk

Obesity, diabetes, stroke plague Hispanic community - CNN.com

In fact most of the overweight people I know are not that curvy. Where are the curves in that first picture? Am I missing something? Does curve something else?
I've heard a lot of fat people call themselves curvy. I think it's just phrasing to make one feel better about themselves.

Example is this quote in the article -

"This is the problem within the Hispanic community," Dieppa wrote on the blog. "We love our curves, but the line between beautiful and deadly curves is blurred."

So for these people to say "curvy" instead of calling themselves obese, I think this is where it comes from.
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It's the same when black men call some black women 'thick'. What most consider 'thick' translates to fat. What should be considered 'thick' is a woman who gains weight slowly & the new weight goes to all the right places.
I don't personally think curvy = anything but curvy. Women can have curves at any weight. It all depends on your build.

Some women do prefer that term as opposed to plus size, over weight, etc. It is a term used when you accept and love your body. Nothing wrong with that.

"This is the problem within the Hispanic community," Dieppa wrote on the blog. "We love our curves, but the line between beautiful and deadly curves is blurred."

When talking about increased risk for heart attack, stroke or diabetes I am not sure why they threw in the line between "beautiful" and deadly is blurred. Drop dead gorgeous comes in all shapes and sizes. So does unhealthy/increased risk.
When I hear terms like "hipster" I think, who told cliques they could leave high school??

We have had this discussion before. Nowadays, curvy means fat. In the old meaning, curvy meant you were either an hourglass or pear built. You could have a small, medium, or large build.

I think because fat is such a dirty word, curvy has been adopted and now distorted. Many of the overweight women who use the word now are in fact not curvy, just severely overweight. If you have narrow hips, then you are not curvy per the original definition.

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Yeah, the word curvy these days just translates to fat. I have heard people use curvy when talking about larger women because they don't want them to know that they are calling that person fat. A lot of women these days don't realize that when someone calls them curvy it usually isn't a compliment, that person is calling them fat. Which is a shame because like (multicultcurly)said curvy doesn't mean what it use too.
I've heard a lot of fat people call themselves curvy. I think it's just phrasing to make one feel better about themselves.

Example is this quote in the article -

"This is the problem within the Hispanic community," Dieppa wrote on the blog. "We love our curves, but the line between beautiful and deadly curves is blurred."

So for these people to say "curvy" instead of calling themselves obese, I think this is where it comes from.
Originally Posted by sixelamy
This made me laugh out loud. More than likely no one is going to describe themselves as obese. Seriously?

The curvy discussion came up a few years back, if I recall correctly most people here agreed that curvy is skinny/thin/average but with big breasts and/or butt/hips.

I think one important thing to note is being overweight can cause health issues, not just being obese. And I think this is what the article is getting at.

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I call myself either plus sized to fat. I do not call myself thick or curvy. I agree wholeheartedly that fat is such a bad word that people don't want to use it. When I call myself fat my coworkers or friends rush to say "no you're not." I think it is because they associate fat with something being bad, but they like me so they don't want me to use this word.
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I was just watching Say Yes to the Dress yesterday afternoon and they had a couple episodes called "Big Bliss" for the plus sized women. Every woman on there described themselves as being "curvy".

No, nobody is going to call themselves obese, that was my point.
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It's a euphemism that can also be literally true.

To mangle Freud, sometimes "cutting the cheese" is just cutting the cheese.
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This made me laugh out loud. More than likely no one is going to describe themselves as obese. Seriously?
Originally Posted by curlyarca
I used to be mildly obese, per BMI. The only reason I avoided calling myself that is that outside of a medical context, "obese" means weighing significantly more than I did.

I was fine with just calling myself "fat." For me personally, using a euphemism would amount to telling people my body is shameful.
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I also find it weird to call fat people "thick." I know thick is the opposite of thin but in general conversation it also means thickheaded.
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I also find it weird to call fat people "thick." I know thick is the opposite of thin but in general conversation it also means thickheaded.
Originally Posted by curlypearl
It's "guy" language that has hit the mainstream.

Thick to describe someone's intelligence is also slang or informal.
I like how you put it, Eilonwy. I think that is exactly it.

Was thinking about this for some reason today. I never call someone/describe someone as fat, because I think it's rude. It can be kind of loaded. But I do say "overweight". I have also described people who are overweight as "plump", "chunky", and "heavy"/"heavier".

Like:
"are you referring to the plump red-haired woman with dark skin?"
"are you referring to the short, cute, kinda chunky, blonde kid?"
"are you referring to Tom short skinny and bald or Tom tall heavy brown hair?"

I use chunky for children; plump, heavy, and overweight for women; and heavy and overweight for men.


But yeah....I never think thin or skinny are rude. Hmm.

I think fat has become a byword in some ways. Like saying re------.
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I was just watching Say Yes to the Dress yesterday afternoon and they had a couple episodes called "Big Bliss" for the plus sized women. Every woman on there described themselves as being "curvy".

No, nobody is going to call themselves obese, that was my point.
Originally Posted by sixelamy
No that's not what I was getting at. Just something in the way what you wrote read in my head.

"In the depth of winter, I finally learned that within me there lay an invincible summer."

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i think thought that curvy and thick means that you're still very attractive. one may be overweight, but the weight is still desirable to men.


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I think it comes from contrasting extremely thin, flatchested women w/ those who are heavier and have breast tissue.

Curvy = any woman w/ sizable breasts, no matter the woman's actual weight, size or body shape.
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i think thought that curvy and thick means that you're still very attractive. one may be overweight, but the weight is still desirable to men.

Originally Posted by frau
The woman pictured would meet the old definition of curvy because she looks to be an hourglass shape. It doesn't matter the person's size. Other examples of the old meaning of curvy: Salma Hayek, Marilyn Monroe, Lady Gaga, Jennifer Lawrence, the 1940s pinup models, Bette Mae Paige, Jennifer Hudson, Jennifer Love Hewitt. Nowadays though, curvy would probably only apply to those who are noticeably overweight. The model pictured would probably be referred to as being thick or having curves, but she is too small to be considered curvy by today's definition by most people.

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God can I ,except for the boobs, have her body? I still think that she is curvy/thick and guys will call her so. (especially black men) My definitive statement is either person is truly curvy as the woman in the pic or she is just using curvy as a euphemism for fat because she doesn't want to call herself fat. I hate when women do this and they really need to stop. When people try to do this to me I stop them and correct them and say, "no I'm plus sized or 'gotta a whole lot.'" I don't know why I'm like this I think because I hold curvy and thick as this sacred special entity for the body I want. This delicate balance that can be hard to achieve. Ok let me stop being weird. So is she curvy or fat?
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Last edited by gagirl09; 10-25-2013 at 06:34 PM.
God can I ,except for the boobs, have her body? I still think that she is curvy/thick and guys will call her so. (especially black men) My definitive statement is either person is truly curvy as the woman in the pic or she is just using curvy as a euphemism for fat because she doesn't want to call herself fat. I hate when women do this and they really need to stop. When people try to do this to me I stop them and correct them and say, "no I'm plus sized or 'gotta a whole lot.'" I don't know why I'm like this I think because I hold curvy and thick as this sacred special entity for the body I want. This delicate balance that can be hard to achieve. Ok let me stop being weird. So is she curvy or fat?
Originally Posted by gagirl09
This one is difficult because I am not the kind of person to comment about a person body. The woman in the image is curvy yes because of the way her figure is shaped. However she is also what society would consider as fat, even though she does fit the definition of curvy due to the hourglass shape of her hips. But she would still be considered fat before curvy, the reason why is because if she was wearing clothes that were not as form fitting as the outfit that she is wearing in the photo you wouldn't be able to see her hourglass curves. To answer your question she would be seen as both curvy and fat or how you said the men described larger women.

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