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Old 11-02-2013, 04:04 PM   #1
 
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The movie is about dignity more than anything else. I hope people go see it. It was hard to watch, but I think it was necessary. I cried several times. It's probably one of the better movies I've ever seen.

Will be super shocked if it doesn't win any Academy Awards. I saw Shame, and after this I'm definitely a Steve McQueen fan.
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If you go see it, bring some extra napkins from concessions or some Kleenex or something. I've never been in a theater with that many people that was that quiet from beginning to end. Very few people even got up to leave to use the restroom from what I could tell. It's really riveting.
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It really does look like an awesome movie. I hope to see it soon. Glad to hear good reviews thus far.
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I am glad you recommended it. The adds and reviews for it have been tremendous and I really want to see it.

I am not sure if I will go to the theater or just wait for it to be released. I have been in the theater watching a movie where everyone was still, and all you could hear was people crying. That is a moment, and I always end up thinking about all the upset people (wanting to hug somebody) rather than focusing on the movie.
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We don't have it playing near here, but I really want to see it! The trailer we saw was just riveting.
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i like to read about slavery but for some reason i don't want to see this film. i think i don't like the way movies tell stories. i also feel somewhat uncomfortable dealing with subjects like this in the theater.
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I've read so much about this movie and I will definitely see it, but will wait until I can watch it at home. I don't remember the last time I went to the movies, to be honest. I'm spoiled by pause, rewind, etc.


I was confused by curlyarca's mention of Steve McQueen. For a minute, I thought "Bullitt?"
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Shame was really good. I rented it as soon as it was released. I heard great things about Steve McQueens direction and Michael Fassbenders role. I have had a strange fascination with Fassbender since Jane Eyre. Those two seem to have a Johnny Depp/Tim Burton type of film making relationship.

There was another movie McQueen directed and MF acted in that got excellent reviews... Hunger (200. It was about the 81 Irish Hunger Strike. I have it on my watch list.
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I was confused by curlyarca's mention of Steve McQueen. For a minute, I thought "Bullitt?"
I thought about the actor too, and then I realize it wasn't the same person. Lol

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i like to read about slavery but for some reason i don't want to see this film. i think i don't like the way movies tell stories. i also feel somewhat uncomfortable dealing with subjects like this in the theater.
This movie is supposed to be more realistic about slavery than most other movies on the subject. People are supposed to be able to relate to the main character better because he begins life as free. I have heard this movie is uncomfortable to watch because of this. In America, we really don't talk about slavery or the resulting Jim Crow era because as a society, we are still trying to cope with it and the aftermath. I guess this movie would be a conversation starter or at least a lesson about what slavery was really like.

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^^^Definitely the case. I think viewers were able to relate to many of the characters in the film.

There's violence in the film, but it's not gratuitous. All of the characters are complex, even the villains. The director just tells an excellent story.
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^ I read something about that in an interview with MF about the film and his preparation for his role. The reporter asked why it took until 2013 for a movie this powerful to come out, and why from a British director. He told the reporter it was due to Brad Pitt and his production company, Plan B. Brad had apparently been approaching people about making the film for several years (since the mid 2000's). Most movie production companies made selections based on feedback from test audiences, numbers and critiques. People only wanted films with this type of ending, or that type of plot, and a story like 12 Years A Slave was seen as too heavy or something that people were not ready to see or talk about it yet.
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If I am not mistaken... I think it was said they knew McQueen was the perfect person to direct the story after he did Hunger. I have read some really good reviews on the way he handled that historical drama about the IRA prisoners trying to get their political status after it was revoked by the British in 76.

Looks like the perfect person was indeed picked to bring the memoirs to life.
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It makes sense though that a foreigner would direct it. It isn't his history so he can be more objective about it, the same way many Americans can view the Holocaust. Aren't both the male leads foreign as well? I am glad that Brad is using his influence to explore topics of substance, instead of the same old same old.

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It makes sense though that a foreigner would direct it. It isn't his history so he can be more objective about it, the same way many Americans can view the Holocaust. Aren't both the male leads foreign as well? I am glad that Brad is using his influence to explore topics of substance, instead of the same old same old.

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I thought the same thing about objectivity and really being able to step back, and let the story speak for itself.

Fassbenders is half German, half Irish and was born in Germany and raised in Ireland. Chiwetel Ejiofor was born in London.

I am glad Brad started up Plan B, too. I've always liked actors that go for the projects that others dismiss. Be it acting, directing or producing.
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^ In the same interview they said the cast and audience were blown away when they watched a screening of it. They had to ask for some time afterward to collect themselves before a Q & A session. Need to walk around, get some air, etc.

I'm still debating going to the theater. I hope we get it here soon. I'll just have to find someone to go and cry with me. :-/
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^ In the same interview they said the cast and audience were blown away when they watched a screening of it. They had to ask for some time afterward to collect themselves before a Q & A session. Need to walk around, get some air, etc.

I'm still debating going to the theater. I hope we get it here soon. I'll just have to find someone to go and cry with me. :-/
I have been thinking about going to see it. But after (having seen) The Butler, Django and Fruitvale Station all in a relatively short time, I'm probably good for a while on the Black oppression theme.
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I have been thinking about going to see it. But after (having seen) The Butler, Django and Fruitvale Station all in a relatively short time, I'm probably good for a while on the Black oppression theme.

Which is exactly my problem with the film. While I have no doubt that it's well done with some good performances, it seems that the only films that come out these days featuring black actors/actresses in prominent roles have them playing the hired help or slaves. The Help, Django, The Butler, the list goes on and on. Yes, I'm glad that there are roles for black performers whose names aren't Will Smith or Morgan Freeman but I'm getting tired of only seeing black actors in these kinds of roles. There really is more to being black than oppression (not that Hollywood would ever believe that).
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I have been thinking about going to see it. But after (having seen) The Butler, Django and Fruitvale Station all in a relatively short time, I'm probably good for a while on the Black oppression theme.

Which is exactly my problem with the film. While I have no doubt that it's well done with some good performances, it seems that the only films that come out these days featuring black actors/actresses in prominent roles have them playing the hired help or slaves. The Help, Django, The Butler, the list goes on and on. Yes, I'm glad that there are roles for black performers whose names aren't Will Smith or Morgan Freeman but I'm getting tired of only seeing black actors in these kinds of roles. There really is more to being black than oppression (not that Hollywood would ever believe that).
Yep. I really enjoyed all these films (incl The Help, which I forgot to mention and I think there was one more that came out recently...) but there needs to be more diversity in the material.

White ppl make movies that are oriented toward adventure, fantasy, slice-of-life, periods of historic glory, exploratoria and so much more. Why can't we!? (Occasionally, we do but not enough.)

But yes, I am happy we are at least being shown on the big screen at all. And I am happy we're not forgetting the role racism had/has on our socialization. And I'm happy we have moved a bit beyond all of the Black gangland/violence films of the 90s. But I want to see that us move fwd even further more.
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The issue for all people of color, not just blacks, is that most of Hollywood is controlled by rich, white men who control the types of movies that are made. Making movies is expensive and most people aren't able to without the financial backing and marketing power of the large studios.

I am excited that actors and others with the money and influence are making more interesting movies, some which include people of color in roles that aren't one dimensional or common stereotypes. Even Tyler Perry has branched out a little from his usual Madea stuff, so maybe change is on its way.

I do think though that American racism, especially where blacks are concerned, needs to be addressed. Many people nowadays have no idea how brutal slavery was or how it was continued under Jim Crow laws. Many people think Jim Crow was just separate restrooms and name calling, but once you realize the lengths the government went to to keep blacks out of mainstream society, the mistrust of the government and lagging socioeconomic status of so many blacks makes sense.

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