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My eyes are fuzzy. Not sure if I can handle 3D tonight. I have a slight headache and it's not helping.

Large sigh over this Beyonce controversy. I saw a clip about it on the news earlier and looked it up. Of course I read comments and people were saying, "A white country singer did it and no one said a word". I thought... What? When? So I refreshed my memory. Garth Brooks, The Dance video in 1990. It showed home video of JFK, MLK and showed a clip of the Challenger crew alive and well, just before the mission. Not quite the same as using the news coverage as soon as the shuttle exploded as the intro to your song about someone crashing into you, kissing you, and taking you before the lights go out. Not defending or dismissing. Not really a country fan. It was simply presented differently. Plus only about 10% of households had a home computer in 1990. People were not glued to them ranting over every move that someone made. Outrage! Outrage!!

Anywho, it was the family of the teachers and astronauts on board who initially took offense. It is one of those moments where you remember exactly where you were and what you were doing when it happened, if you are old enough to remember. 2nd woman (astronaut) going into space on board. School teachers on board who were going to tape lessons from space. All school kids were asked to watch. So yeah, it was a biggie.

Just like everything else, it will blow over. I just hate seeing people turn it into something it's not about.
When I hear terms like "hipster" I think, who told cliques they could leave high school??


Last edited by Fifi.G; 12-30-2013 at 09:22 PM.
Why is it that people feel the need to ask me rude or insensitive questions/comments? And then they get mad when I don't just laugh or smile. I'm sorry but I think you need to know when you make a rude/insensitive comment. I would thank someone if they said "hey that was sorta insensitive" I would use it to improve myself. I wouldn't bash someone for standing up to me or say "Gah can't you take a joke?" Jokes are supposed to be funny!
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I would love to meet and shake the hand of the woman who worked this words into a brilliantly long comment...

"scholarly tut-tut essays"

And...

"toothsome, hollow, bloated, academic kind of masturbatory clatptrap"

And Finally...

"If you want to help us, treat us like individual human people and demand we take responsibility for ourselves - not like an exotic group of oppressed Oompa Loompas you have to delicately molest with white kid gloves, then discuss the experience breathlessly over your keyboards and Chardonnay. Thanks"

She also managed to throw in sex slings and feather dusters and community college insults. Breath taking. I love it when the web leads me to a diamond in the rough. I was catching up on the Mascot Controversy news and ended up... Dang! Hahaha. She obviously did not like someone telling people what shoes, purses, and denim shirts they could and could not buy.
When I hear terms like "hipster" I think, who told cliques they could leave high school??

Fifi, I feel for your SIL, it's hard to find that balance when you want to offer some advice but don't want to come across as an over-involved, know-it-all MIL. The girl sounds a nightmare, it's amazing how blinkered some parents can be.
Originally Posted by Starmie
She is a nightmare. I used to tell family members I was going to shave her head and look for 666 on her scalp. I really thought she had calmed down some since becoming involved with softball and basketball. She is very pleasant to me now, but I have never been afraid to tell her to sit down and shut up. Anywho, Sometimes you see a positive change when energy gets redirected, but I was very wrong. My nephew was playing nerf football with them just after thanksgiving and he said she was miserable. He gave credit to her brother. He did not lose his cool once, even when she kicked his knees, knocked him down, picked his head up and slammed it into the ground trying to knock him out. He is older and bigger, but he would not do anything to hurt his sister.

Really messed up situation because he was neglected by his dad and mom as a child. He has had to overcome some major issues and is still working on an eating disorder of sorts. His mom left him and moldy food in his high chair for days at a time when he was a tot. *He lived with her in another county and his dad was busy trying to woo his current wife. He signed over his parental rights very quickly. He was 17 when his son was born, and is still stupid at 29-30*. The boy lives with my brother and sister in law and has for several years now. They were awarded guardianship in court. Teachers testified against his parents. His (I believe I said half before but it's step) sister has been spoiled rotten, but she is jealous of him. He gets little to no attention, and she still hates him for getting a crumb. Her biological dad is a SOB and a poacher. She takes after him a little to much.

It is a delicate balance with parents and grandparents. I don't think someone should discount them because they have experience, wisdom and some good tips to pass down. You don't want someone invading every aspect or doing the opposite of what you want, but it does seem like people get more defensive and dismissive now.
When I hear terms like "hipster" I think, who told cliques they could leave high school??


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My eyes are fuzzy. Not sure if I can handle 3D tonight. I have a slight headache and it's not helping.

Large sigh over this Beyonce controversy. I saw a clip about it on the news earlier and looked it up. Of course I read comments and people were saying, "A white country singer did it and no one said a word". I thought... What? When? So I refreshed my memory. Garth Brooks, The Dance video in 1990. It showed home video of JFK, MLK and showed a clip of the Challenger crew alive and well, just before the mission. Not quite the same as using the news coverage as soon as the shuttle exploded as the intro to your song about someone crashing into you, kissing you, and taking you before the lights go out. Not defending or dismissing. Not really a country fan. It was simply presented differently. Plus only about 10% of households had a home computer in 1990. People were not glued to them ranting over every move that someone made. Outrage! Outrage!!

Anywho, it was the family of the teachers and astronauts on board who initially took offense. It is one of those moments where you remember exactly where you were and what you were doing when it happened, if you are old enough to remember. 2nd woman (astronaut) going into space on board. School teachers on board who were going to tape lessons from space. All school kids were asked to watch. So yeah, it was a biggie.

Just like everything else, it will blow over. I just hate seeing people turn it into something it's not about.
Originally Posted by Fifi.G

I always felt like The Dance was a tribute to those people, not that it exploited them. I didn't know anyone was upset about it, though. I understand their family being upset. I think Garth's intentions were true. But I have a soft spot for Garth Brooks. I know nothing of this Beyonce video. Guess I will check it out.


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My eyes are fuzzy. Not sure if I can handle 3D tonight. I have a slight headache and it's not helping.

Large sigh over this Beyonce controversy. I saw a clip about it on the news earlier and looked it up. Of course I read comments and people were saying, "A white country singer did it and no one said a word". I thought... What? When? So I refreshed my memory. Garth Brooks, The Dance video in 1990. It showed home video of JFK, MLK and showed a clip of the Challenger crew alive and well, just before the mission. Not quite the same as using the news coverage as soon as the shuttle exploded as the intro to your song about someone crashing into you, kissing you, and taking you before the lights go out. Not defending or dismissing. Not really a country fan. It was simply presented differently. Plus only about 10% of households had a home computer in 1990. People were not glued to them ranting over every move that someone made. Outrage! Outrage!!

Anywho, it was the family of the teachers and astronauts on board who initially took offense. It is one of those moments where you remember exactly where you were and what you were doing when it happened, if you are old enough to remember. 2nd woman (astronaut) going into space on board. School teachers on board who were going to tape lessons from space. All school kids were asked to watch. So yeah, it was a biggie.

Just like everything else, it will blow over. I just hate seeing people turn it into something it's not about.
Originally Posted by Fifi.G

I always felt like The Dance was a tribute to those people, not that it exploited them. I didn't know anyone was upset about it, though. I understand their family being upset. I think Garth's intentions were true. But I have a soft spot for Garth Brooks. I know nothing of this Beyonce video. Guess I will check it out.
Originally Posted by mustangbunny
I had no idea what people were talking about. Who used what and got away with it? The Dance was all I could find when I googled. I had not seen the video since the 90's. Both copies I watched had an intro saying The Dance was dedicated to those who died while perusing/following their dream. No assassination or death footage was shown, and no audio clips from their deaths were used. It was all video clips of their life.

I don't recall anyone being upset about the way that song and video was presented. Again, it was 1990 and people were not commenting on news stories from their phone, tablet or lap top 24-7. Very few even had a home computer.

Some were upset that Garth got away with it while Beyonce was being called insensitive. I'm not sure if those people ever saw Garth's video themselves. I've not listened to Beyonce's song but I heard it's an up beat/dance song, and read some of the lyrics. Odd choice for an intro, imo.

I have to agree that she should have asked the families before using the audio clips and peoples final words.

So many have said this would be like throwing 911 calls from 9/11 into a club hit, that I am actually waiting for someone to do that next. :-/
When I hear terms like "hipster" I think, who told cliques they could leave high school??


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When I hear terms like "hipster" I think, who told cliques they could leave high school??


Last edited by Fifi.G; 12-31-2013 at 11:12 AM.
My eyes are fuzzy. Not sure if I can handle 3D tonight. I have a slight headache and it's not helping.

Large sigh over this Beyonce controversy. I saw a clip about it on the news earlier and looked it up. Of course I read comments and people were saying, "A white country singer did it and no one said a word". I thought... What? When? So I refreshed my memory. Garth Brooks, The Dance video in 1990. It showed home video of JFK, MLK and showed a clip of the Challenger crew alive and well, just before the mission. Not quite the same as using the news coverage as soon as the shuttle exploded as the intro to your song about someone crashing into you, kissing you, and taking you before the lights go out. Not defending or dismissing. Not really a country fan. It was simply presented differently. Plus only about 10% of households had a home computer in 1990. People were not glued to them ranting over every move that someone made. Outrage! Outrage!!

Anywho, it was the family of the teachers and astronauts on board who initially took offense. It is one of those moments where you remember exactly where you were and what you were doing when it happened, if you are old enough to remember. 2nd woman (astronaut) going into space on board. School teachers on board who were going to tape lessons from space. All school kids were asked to watch. So yeah, it was a biggie.

Just like everything else, it will blow over. I just hate seeing people turn it into something it's not about.
Originally Posted by Fifi.G

I always felt like The Dance was a tribute to those people, not that it exploited them. I didn't know anyone was upset about it, though. I understand their family being upset. I think Garth's intentions were true. But I have a soft spot for Garth Brooks. I know nothing of this Beyonce video. Guess I will check it out.
Originally Posted by mustangbunny
The Dance was a tribute. I never heard anyone was upset either.
Did anyone actually check to see if Garth or Beyoncé got permission to use those clips? If so they got away with nothing and the argument against them using it is null and void.
Sorry for the confusion, I think I misunderstood Fifi's original post. I thought you were saying people were mad at Garth Brooks too but I think I got that wrong.

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Did anyone actually check to see if Garth or Beyoncé got permission to use those clips? If so they got away with nothing and the argument against them using it is null and void.
Originally Posted by Amandacurls
I have no idea about Garth, but Beyonce did not. It was the family members of those who died in The Challenger and NASA officials who made the first comments and released statements. They said they were very disappointed she was so insensitive to the families and used the audio clips in her song. It kind of grew like a wild fire from there, and Beyonce said she was sorry. The song was meant to help heal those who have lost someone.

Again, just from reading the lyrics, still an odd choice for an intro. Perfect one for controversy.
When I hear terms like "hipster" I think, who told cliques they could leave high school??

OH I get it now. Thank you. I guess I have to see this video but I hate to add views if it really is that insensitive.


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Sorry for the confusion, I think I misunderstood Fifi's original post. I thought you were saying people were mad at Garth Brooks too but I think I got that wrong.

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Originally Posted by mustangbunny
That's okay. It's a bunch of drama of now, and has all crossed to fairly ridiculous. Some were saying it was an issue of race and sexism because a white male country singer got away with it and Beyonce got slammed. It just hit the families of the deceased wrong, and the people they once worked with. It's not a matter of sexism or race. I was saying I hated to see this kind of a blow up over something that is considered a National Tragedy. ETA: News outlets are contributing to that as well. It's a bit of a media circus, but what isn't these days?

And I'm not a big Garth fan though I still remember most of his songs in the 90's. Not necessarily the videos, but the songs. They were played very heavily.
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