Girls Shouldn't Be Expected to Shave their Body Hair

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This is a post regarding the article, "The New Hair Color Trend I Hope No One Catches On to." Honestly, I thought Naturally Curly was a body positive space and I am so disappointed to see grown women still believing that their own body hair is gross. If you haven't read it, it's an article about women dying their armpit hair. The author goes on to shame these women and even say that if you do dye your armpit hair, she will find you and give you a razor (even if this was a joke, her opinions on women's body hair are quite apparent.) Growing out your armpit hair isn't a fad and dying your armpit hair is more of a statement than a fad. It's empowering and basically a middle finger to everybody who thinks that hair on a woman is gross. In a society where men are constantly bombarding women with their opinions on their body, we don't need anymore girl-on-girl hate. Love yourself and help your fellow women. ✌️
(PS your body hair is cute)

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First off I just want to say that even though I firmly believe women (in western society) do this because we are now conditioned to believe we should, Women should be allowed to do what they want with their bodies, whether it be shaving or letting it be natural. That is ultimately her freedom to do so and policing it either way is wrong to me.

Personally I don't and have never shaved my legs, I have a boyfriend and he doesn't mind how they look or feel at all. Put simply I could not be arsed with such a fuss every time I want to shower. I'll shave my armpits once in a while, I'm not super fussed on having no hair there 100% of the time. If I was a bit more confident I wouldn't at all, but that's just the world we live in. As for you know where, a trim suffices and I expect my boyfriend to do the same.

I think there is a bit of a trend going on with men starting to do the same with armpit hair and such. I think it's all a bit weird that in the west that there's a huge association with hair on bodies as 'unhygienic' (BS). Men also get a lot of flack in regards to beards/facial hair and negative stereotypes associated with them. I find that most people find body hair gross without even knowing why they think that, and it's good to challenge that. I think it can get a bit weird. Especially when people go to extremes like shaving their whole arms and women shaving the fluff off their face.
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I think it should be totally up to the woman or girl in question. I started because it made me feel grown up, and I wanted to do that sooner than I should have.

Here's something I've wondered, though: my body hair is kind of wavy, like the hair on my head. Is that the case for other wavies or curlies?
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I'm all for girls making the choice for themselves! I guess i should've made that clearer and apologize for any miscommunications. I'm naturally hairy as well and I choose to shave but I let it grow out for the most part due to skin problems and just not caring, haha.
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Yeah, mines a bit wavy also!! My eyebrow hairs sometimes have a wave if I let them grow out a bit haha

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It's a fact that shaving armpits and legs was a marketing campaign by the shaving companies here I the US that started in the 30s or so.
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I had the urge to start growing my arm pit hair after reading that article. A couple years ago I stopped shaving for about two months. I was pretty ok with the armpit hair but my leg hair really bugged me.
I have no issues with a woman shaving or not shaving. I could careless what you do with your body as long as you don't tell me what to with mine. There are women who are strongly opposed to shaving and often make stabby comments to those who do it. They simply do it for men, they are brain washed with beauty standards and do not know it, etc. I have even seen memes claiming shaving is body mutilation. I believe they all (both sides) take themselves a little too seriously. Personally, I shave. I keep my under arms shaved at all times. I have found I actually have more body odor if my hair gets long. Deoderant does not seem to work as well so I would not say the hygienic reasoning is BS for all. I sometimes do not shave my whole leg. My hair is very light above my knee so I can leave the be, and in the winter it's whatever goes.

I used to hate body hair on men when I was younger. Beards, chest hair... All of it. Beards were the worst to me when it came to kissing. So scratchy and rough, BUT I was dating guys who did not have a lot of facial or chest hair. As I got older I grew out of that and became rather fond of it. I do not understand grown men waxing their chest hair and have beards removed. The metrosexual phase was odd to me, and after that you found men getting hair plugs on their chest :-/ Shaving when you want does not seem so bad.
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When I hear terms like "hipster" I think, who told cliques they could leave high school??

I have no issues with a woman shaving or not shaving. I could careless what you do with your body as long as you don't tell me what to with mine. There are women who are strongly opposed to shaving and often make stabby comments to those who do it. They simply do it for men, they are brain washed with beauty standards and do not know it, etc. I have even seen memes claiming shaving is body mutilation. I believe they all (both sides) take themselves a little too seriously. Personally, I shave. I keep my under arms shaved at all times. I have found I actually have more body odor if my hair gets long. Deoderant does not seem to work as well so I would not say the hygienic reasoning is BS for all. I sometimes do not shave my whole leg. My hair is very light above my knee so I can leave the be, and in the winter it's whatever goes.

I used to hate body hair on men when I was younger. Beards, chest hair... All of it. Beards were the worst to me when it came to kissing. So scratchy and rough, BUT I was dating guys who did not have a lot of facial or chest hair. As I got older I grew out of that and became rather fond of it. I do not understand grown men waxing their chest hair and have beards removed. The metrosexual phase was odd to me, and after that you found men getting hair plugs on their chest :-/ Shaving when you want does not seem so bad.
Originally Posted by Fifi.G
SJW'ing outside the internet is nonexisting, luckily. And are you me? I think in a few years i wont like metrosexual men but right now I'm all about that Chris Brown lol.
Originally Posted by noodly

Haha! I may be

The internet is the main place where I see SJW's body shaming. I never quite the the reasoning or principal behind that because most turn around and scream at someone else for shaming. It makes no sense at all.

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I hope you do not mind if I share this. I came across it some time ago and this thread reminded me of it.

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"Similarly Arizona State University Professor, Breanne Fahs, decided to begin a social experiment with her gender studies class. Professor Fahs offered extra credit to her students to shave (for males) and to not shave (for females). She broke down her experiment into two subsections: 1. the imagined reaction to body hair, 2. the actual response to body hair growth. In the first study, one theme was common: women viewed body hair growth as a “personal choice” that they decided not to participate in and dismissed the idea that social pressures were involved in that choice. In the second study, Fahs discovered that the female students in her class who chose not to shave for a semester had internalized feelings of disgust, viewing themselves as “unclean” or “dirty”. My feelings towards my own leg hair at the beginning of the summer were exactly the same.

One of the most common views towards female body hair is described as unhygienic. I was given several reminders by my friends and family members that there is nothing wrong with having body hair “as long as you’re being clean!” This has always struck me as very odd. How is that men are not viewed as unclean for their body hair? There is nothing unclean about body hair. It is a myth created by advertisements for over a hundred years, which has no basis. If someone is showering and using soap, then there is really no cause for anyone to view body hair as unhygienic.

Another commonality in regards to female body hair is that women worry about their romantic partners sentiments towards their hair. Pubic hair, armpit hair, and leg hair have all been labeled as taboo for women who want to have a healthy sexual life. In pornography, women without pubic hair are mainstream and considered the standard for “sexiness”. To perpetuate this idea, television shows and films portray women as more sexually attractive when they shave."

I found that very interesting because I have never viewed my body hair as disgusting and I never awaited the rite of passage known as shaving. One of my classmates, who had 8 sisters, told me he thought it was time for me to start shaving. It was the same thing his mom had told his sisters. I had no idea I was "supposed" to. I waited until I was 13 and then started and my mom actually wanted me to wait longer. *Don't me wrong. I remember Nair and Daisy commercials well but grown women were in those, and I refused to acknowledge adulthood at 13. Close, but no cigar. Still a dumb kid.* Again, I do not think one can say thinking it is unhygenic is all in your head. I don't think that holds true for all, especially in the areas where one sweats and may be prone to additional problems.

I also did not grow up in a time minus the lady garden in pornography so that was never an issue for me and though trimmed may be appreciated, it's not a huge issue for men I know. I see more younger men having vile reactions to the words body hair.
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Last edited by Fifi.G; 12-06-2014 at 06:41 PM.
For me, I epilate my legs (and sometimes armpits, but it's painful so I usually shave), however if people won't be seeing them (ie. winter), I don't bother with my legs and only shave my armpits about every 2 weeks. In reality we shouldn't find body hair gross. Body hair doesn't mean you don't wash or anything like that. It's also rarely a ton of hair for women. If I don't shave/epilate, you can barely see it if you are a meter away. I think that you should just do what you are comfortable with. For the hygiene, it really depends on the person. For me, no hair = no smell, hair = I need deodorant. One thing I have wondered about is for the private area hair. It actually is supposed to keep bacteria out and keep pheromones, but apparently it's gross to have it? I've tried shaving but it ends up giving me a rash so no thanks :P I'll stick to trimming.

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In summer though, I epilate legs and armpits whenever there is hair.

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Yeah, mines a bit wavy also!! My eyebrow hairs sometimes have a wave if I let them grow out a bit haha
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I always wondered if it was just me.

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I like to wax 'down there' every so often. I keep it nice and neat and short. I still have hair, but I like it 'tidied up' for hygiene reasons and such.

I shave my legs because I like doing it and like the feel of smooth, soft legs. But even shaving my legs isn't something I do often. Only when I can be bothered.

Armpits, I like to shave regularly for hygiene reasons. As I find the more hair I have there, the more I tend to perspire. If I'm freshly shaven I don't tend to sweat at all, so I like to keep my armpits hair-free.

I don't give a sh*tabout what men or other people think lol. If I shave or wax, or choose to forgo either, it's for me and nobody else. Both women and men should never be expected to do anything with their body hair, other than what they want, and it's crazy to me people think they have a right to tell others what their body hair should look like. I mean LOL, seriously? Why is it anyone's business? Personal grooming is PERSONAL for a reason.
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i shave because society says i should.
if tomorrow i could have underarm/leg/pubic hair, i'd gladly stop shaving.
(although, less underarm hair smells better)
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I used to shave EVERYTHING because I thought body hair was gross etc and needed to be removed, but just this year (around jan) I read this article about how shaving/waxing the vjayjay can cause all kinds of problems, and I started to think about all the ingrown hairs I was getting and the horrible rashes and possible infections that can happen so I stopped shaving my bikini area because the cons outweighed the pros and I realized that body hair isn't going to stop a guy from wanting to have sex and if it does then he's obviously as mature as a 12 yr old, that being said I can't deny the dolphin softness of clean shaved legs and having hair in my pits annoys me too much because I work out a lot and I think the sweat get trapped in the hair, but I think these girls deserve a damn medal for being so brave, if a guy doesn't have to shave we don't either, equality *****
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I'll be honest, I shave because of societal pressure. It's pretty subconscious but at least I'm self-aware enough to admit it. If it wasn't for society praising hairlessness on women, I wouldn't remove my hair. On other women, I don't mind hair. In fact, I'm a member of the BDSM community where there are a lot of hairy armpit and pubic hair fetishists. I once met a woman at an event who had hairy armpits...with a tank top....in the summer and she OWNED that. I thought her confidence was so awesome. However, I'm not ready to stop shaving. Silky hairless skin is only appealing to us because we are told it is. However, since Noodly brought this up, pubic hair while on my period was gross. The other 25 or so days there's really no reason for it to be bare.
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I used to shave EVERYTHING because I thought body hair was gross etc and needed to be removed, but just this year (around jan) I read this article about how shaving/waxing the vjayjay can cause all kinds of problems, and I started to think about all the ingrown hairs I was getting and the horrible rashes and possible infections that can happen so I stopped shaving my bikini area because the cons outweighed the pros and I realized that body hair isn't going to stop a guy from wanting to have sex and if it does then he's obviously as mature as a 12 yr old, that being said I can't deny the dolphin softness of clean shaved legs and having hair in my pits annoys me too much because I work out a lot and I think the sweat get trapped in the hair, but I think these girls deserve a damn medal for being so brave, if a guy doesn't have to shave we don't either, equality *****
Originally Posted by kyahail
Right! Guys who freak out at the sight of pubic hair freak me out. I have said and will continue to say that I like to have some proof that I am a grown woman who made it thru puberty.
When I hear terms like "hipster" I think, who told cliques they could leave high school??

This thread keeps reminding me of things. I ended up on a forum for parents one day, while reading about a particular topic, and came across threads started by women who were freaking out about their 5 yo daughter having arm and leg hair. Is this normal??? Omg!! So soon! Is this early puberty?

Lard lady, you start growing hair on your arms and legs very young. Pubic hair starts coming in sparsely around 8, for many. Your underarm hair is the last to sprout. Do you remember nothing from your childhood? You spend 8-10 years not even thinking twice about your leg hair. That is why I never found mine to be disgusting in the slightest. Puberty tends to bring out self conscious feelings about everything going on with you. By that time your hair starts changing a bit and fully comes in. Perfectly natural for boys and girls to feel wtf about several things because so much happens.

ETA: As far as "societal pressures" go, I can't strictly blame all of that on shaving. Yes, between the 20's-50's shaving and advertising for shaving directed for women stepped up. Men shaved some time before that. It was often stated as a "grooming standard" and you see 900 commercials directed at getting a "clean shave". I've seen women argue with men about this, say women are the only ones looked at as having hygiene issues, and when all else fails they say... We have more things to shave! True, but we can throw jeans and long sleeves over our stubble if we feel the need. When it comes to a boyfriend liking the feel of freshly shaved legs... I'm not going to fuss or call it societal pressure. It's more of a tactile/sensory thing and I have experienced it myself with beards. "You are scratching my face. Shave the damn thing off!" I also love climbing into bed and relaxing on clean sheets just after I habe shaved. Feels like a dream. I used to blame society or societal pressures for everything coming and going when I was a tween & teen. They are out there but then I had to realize society is a million different things at once. Especially when you have known great grandmothers, grandmothers, mothers... Etc and all coming from different places.

**CatitudeBoo... I meant to add that I do not doubt it with the fetishes, though there are plenty of people out there with arm bit and full pubic hair. It should not be that hard to find. I'm surprised you would be so concerned or subconscious about pressures and be a member of a BDSM community. Talk about not fitting in with the norm. I have no issues with BDSM but I know many have been doing their damnedest to get it listed as a disorder that requires treatment for years. Some might be members here, just so you know You won't have to fear that if you go 3 days without shaving, but have a fetish and you're deranged.**
When I hear terms like "hipster" I think, who told cliques they could leave high school??


Last edited by Fifi.G; 12-08-2014 at 05:26 PM.
Pubertas praecox can be fatal though, sometimes its related to a tumor. And when we think of an 8 year old we do not think of puberty(usually) so I do understand the worry, especially if the parents hit puberty at a "normal" age (13). And emotionally its fcked up for the child. I know this because I looked 15 when I was 8
Originally Posted by noodly
This child just had fine leg and arm hair. No pubic hair yet. Most get that pretty young. It just takes time to grow and fill out. We don't just sprout it at 12 or 13 It just becomes longer and more visible.

ETA: I swear, this woman was worried about her daughter needing to start shaving at 10 b/c ahe had fine leg hairs at 5. I can remember one mom saying, "Relax! My 2 year old is a fuzzy beast. It's fine.
When I hear terms like "hipster" I think, who told cliques they could leave high school??


Last edited by Fifi.G; 12-08-2014 at 07:35 AM.
I agree that it's an arbitrary imposition on women, but at the same time I have to admit that the beauty standard is so ingrained in me that I just don't like walking around with hairy legs or armpits or whatever. The one part where I take a stance against shaving (for me, personally, of course) is pubic hair, because a) that area is too sensitive to be messing about and b) the hair is there to protect you from infections.

Even if beauty wasn't the issue, I might still shave off my armpit hair because I seem to get a stronger odor when it's there.

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