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Originally Posted by curlypearl



This is super long so please bear with me. I just sent out another resume. I've got eight more to apply to tonight and tomorrow. Here's the problem...

I'm trying to break into a completely different field from my previous career as a graphic designer and illustrator, 20 years doing this work. I want to concentrate my artwork on only fine art for galleries. So I need another job to make a living. I've been working as an admin assistant since February of this year to get experience in preparation but it is a temp job and it ends in less than three months. While I have customer relations skills throughout my work life and can kind of squiggle that on paper I have another issue. People who see my resume keep saying "you are over qualified" but I don't have enough experience in the new field to get my foot in the door. I've been told to "dumb down" my resume.

I want to work as a medical receptionist/patient registrar (clinics and hospitals seem to use different names for these positions). Basically I want to be the person that checks you in when you go to the doctor. I KNOW I would be great at this job. I have the empathy, friendliness and discretion to do this job very well. In my current position, as much as I hate it, I know that I have done an excellent job for my bosses and that they have come to rely on me very much. I know they will be very unhappy to see me leave. I really really want to do this patient intake work. I really want to welcome people and make them feel better, knowing of course that at most I will probably only be able to help them feel well looked after. I've talked to many people that are currently doing this type of work and all have said they had no experience doing this before they got the job. They all also said they LOVE their jobs.

So, how do I handle the situation if I eliminate most of my resume and get asked about it in an interview? I don't want to look like I'm hiding anything but after all this time of looking and not getting interviews I've got to do something. "Dumbing" it down seems like the only logical next step. I've been to career counselors in the past and don't feel like I've gotten anything for the money. I now no longer have the extra income to hire someone to look at my resume so I'm just sort of winging it. HELP!
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Eche: how about making your resume a "functional" type if resume. Basically, label it "relevant experience" and just put in a couple things. You can maybe briefly mention your art/design skills in another "skills" section with just a brief phrase.

My mom's a medical receptionist, and from what I know I'd agree with your description. The key things to focus on would be that you're responsible (they need someone that will be in time every. single. day. No exceptions), and also someone that can multitask. I'd make sure these things are addresses in your resume/cover letter.
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I was going to suggest functional resume as well. Google for formatting and structure ideas. I used this when I was trying to branch out [also as a graphic designer].

It was also good to use this format for GD job prospects that were more advanced. I knew I had the skills, but I'd never been formally called a Creative Director or what have you. This solved that problem nicely.
Thanks for the suggestions, Who Me? and wild~hair! I've tried the functional resume in the past but got a very negative response from a multinational company that basically implied that I must be really old and hiding stuff because I gave them a functional resume. They actually had me send a traditional resume in and then again implied that I was too old, saying that I would probably have a hard time "keeping up" with everyone there. What a crock! I'd been free-lancing for them for years. The position I was applying too was for something I was already doing on a daily basis and the head of the department wanted me on staff. I could NOT get past HR! (oh, sorry, that rant sneaked in there! )

I did not have responsible or punctual in there and will definitely add them. Not to rewrite my cover letter but here's a list of key words from it:

Accurate; timely; hard worker; great attitude; sunny disposition; professional; dedicated; adept at learning new software; problem solver; manage multiple jobs/tasks on tight timelines; self-starting autonomy with a good deal of team work; strong written and verbal communication skills; love being around people; kindness; empathy; discretion.

Of course these are all within the context of the CL so the tense is correct depending on the use in the sentence. UGH!!! this is so hard. I hate tooting my own horn. This job hunting stuff is excruciating!


I guess I should try the functional resume again now that I'm looking in a different field. Thanks!!!
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Last edited by eche428; 10-13-2011 at 08:31 PM. Reason: more thoughts...
I actually don't want to jynx myself and talk about how great today's interview went...................................
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Eche, help me understand. If you use a typical (not functional) resume, people will see that you did something different and are trying to switch into medical registrar (or whatever they call it). Is that right? Does that work against you? I mean, that is what you are trying to do, and people do switch careers all the time so why should people count you out for that reason?

I think it sounds like an excellent career move for you because it sounds as though you have all the aptitudes and characteristics that the job requires. I have also been interested in that work but I was told that in NYC you must be bilingual. I'm assuming that isn't an issue where you are, or that you know another language, since that doesn't seem to be the problem.

You mention that you talked with people who are currently doing this work. Are you friendly enough with any of them to ask them if they would forward your resume to their HR dept.?

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I hate agencies! I got a call from an agency about another job - identical to the one I just accepted but paying $25,000 more.

The agency lady that was trying to get me to interview for this higher paying position said I sold myself short. She said with my background I should have asked for a much higher salary. She implied I was kind of a fool to be working for the salary they offered.

My little bubble of happiness was kind of punctured. I probably should have negotiated for a higher salary, but I was so anxious to get a job that all I could think was -- say YES - grab it - they are offering you a job and you want it! This agency woman made me feel kind of crappy - agencies....grrrr!

I'm 66, out of work for more than 2 years due to brain surgery, voice isn't normal due to surgery - I think I'm lucky to get any kind of job! On the plus side, I look younger than my age, have great skills and superb references, but I still feel grateful to have the job. I'm competing with hordes of much younger people and the job market is awful. Am I really selling myself short?
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Last edited by curlypearl; 10-13-2011 at 10:17 PM.
I hate agencies! I got a call from an agency about another job - identical to the one I just accepted but paying $25,000 more.

The agency lady that was trying to get me to interview for this higher paying position said I sold myself short. She said with my background I should have asked for a much higher salary. She implied I was kind of a fool to be working for the salary they offered.

My little bubble of happiness was kind of punctured. I probably should have negotiated for a higher salary, but I was so anxious to get a job that all I could think was -- say YES - grab it - they are offering you a job and you want it! This agency woman made me feel kind of crappy - agencies....grrrr!

I'm 66, out of work for more than 2 years due to brain surgery, voice isn't normal due to surgery - I think I'm lucky to get any kind of job! On the plus side, I look younger than my age, have great skills and superb references, but I still feel grateful to have the job. I'm competing with hordes of much younger people and the job market is awful. Am I really selling myself short?
Originally Posted by curlypearl
I hate agencies too, curlypearl! Try to ignore her bubble bursting. You got the job you wanted and who knows if what she's saying is really true. I've come to take anything and everything an agency says with a large salt lick. I know this is really cynical but a lot of them just out right lie. It seems like a profession that has become a "say anything to get a contact" type of profession. Ignore her. You did great!!!

Eche, help me understand. If you use a typical (not functional) resume, people will see that you did something different and are trying to switch into medical registrar (or whatever they call it). Is that right? Does that work against you? I mean, that is what you are trying to do, and people do switch careers all the time so why should people count you out for that reason?

I think it sounds like an excellent career move for you because it sounds as though you have all the aptitudes and characteristics that the job requires. I have also been interested in that work but I was told that in NYC you must be bilingual. I'm assuming that isn't an issue where you are, or that you know another language, since that doesn't seem to be the problem.

You mention that you talked with people who are currently doing this work. Are you friendly enough with any of them to ask them if they would forward your resume to their HR dept.?

CIBC: I hear you!
Originally Posted by curlypearl
I don't know why I've had issues with non-traditional resumes. BUT I must say I ran into it with three different HR people but at only one company. So I shouldn't throw out the idea just because of that one company. I have found people look at me side-eyed because they see me as "downgrading" my career. I guess some people think if you've worked to get to a high level in one profession why on earth would you want to change professions and do something "less"? Yes. I've actually had people use those exact words to me. I don't see what anyone does as "less" or "beneath" or "downgrading" but others do and I guess I've run into people who are particularly vocal about their opinion. Seems like some people feel the need or the right to give you their unsolicited thoughts these days.

I'm sending you a PM if you don't mind.
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I actually don't want to jynx myself and talk about how great today's interview went...................................
Originally Posted by CanItBeChristine
I don't want to jinx it either (though I don't really believe in that!) but I'm crossing everything I have for you Christine!!!
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Add me to the list of people who hate agencies!

Some of the ones I have gone to have had the SWEETEST, most helpful people...in the beginning. And they would send me on interviews for jobs they said paid twice as much as I was making with my last job.

And then I wouldn't hear from them for months!!!

I think you did the right thing, curlypearl...there's no guarantee that you would have gotten that other job they called you about, and if the salary really doesn't feel like enough after a while, could you keep looking?
Me too Christine. Keep us posted.
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Thanks for support, Eche and CIBC. I'm feeling much better this morning, and CIBC, you are right - if I feel the salary isn't enough I can always keep looking, but right now, I'm just so happy that I got a job and it seemed that the person I would report to was pleasant. One never knows for sure until one actually is in the job - but I'm hopeful and excited! I start on Monday.
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My mom turned down that job

I guess crying poverty and constantly saying she'll have to sell her home is just a lot of fun for her.
Thanks for support, Eche and CIBC. I'm feeling much better this morning, and CIBC, you are right - if I feel the salary isn't enough I can always keep looking, but right now, I'm just so happy that I got a job and it seemed that the person I would report to was pleasant. One never knows for sure until one actually is in the job - but I'm hopeful and excited! I start on Monday.
Originally Posted by curlypearl
Good luck on Monday, curlypearl. And please check back in here and let us know how it's going.
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And thanks everybody!

My interview went so well!

It was for an Associate Producer position in one of the big theatre charities. I think it sounds like a GREAT way to get back into the business, but also be in a nicer environment where people are doing good instead of only looking-out for themselves (like my last office.) The salary's awesome (well, probably would look sad to some of you, haha, but a lot more than I was making.)

I met with two people who kept saying, "Awesome!" "Amazing!" "Fantastic!" It made me feel good, but I don't know if they're that nice and complimentary to everybody.

I emailed them both separately to thank them (very different emails) and one of them emailed me right back to thank ME and CC'd the other woman that was in with us.

Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.

Want it.
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Thanks for support, Eche and CIBC. I'm feeling much better this morning, and CIBC, you are right - if I feel the salary isn't enough I can always keep looking, but right now, I'm just so happy that I got a job and it seemed that the person I would report to was pleasant. One never knows for sure until one actually is in the job - but I'm hopeful and excited! I start on Monday.
Originally Posted by curlypearl
I'd also take what that agency woman said with a grain of salt. There's no guarantee you'd have gotten the job she wanted to send you out for.

11 years ago, I interviewed for some customer service position at a startup dot.com and was offered the job. Then a temp agency I was working with offered me a temp position at a managed care company. Both positions paid around the same hourly salary. However, I wasn't certain about the long term future at the dot.com so I took the temp job (This was around the time of the dot com bust). The manager at the dot.com got nasty when I turned down the job, saying I was making a mistake and that I'd have unlimited opportunities for advancement. That temp job I took turned into a permanent one within a month. I was at the managed care company for 8 years. I haven't heard anything about the dot com in years and I presume they went under some time ago. I never regretted that decision.
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It's so hard to know at the time, isn't it? ^ Glad it turned out well for you.

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CIBC!

A story for you:

I keep hearing from one of my contacts from my recent brief time at a paper. It was getting so that I began to wonder what his intentions were; whether he was going to ask me out, or start telling me about his own job search.

Today he finally came out with it: he wants me to see if I can work in any references to his employer (a local park district) in my other work (which is business -oriented). He thinks it would be a nice perk for both of us. No pay for me, but free press for his employer.

I said, "Wow --- what a networker you are!" And then of course I said if I could ever help him I would, blah,blah,blah, while I roll my eyes as I type.

The nerve of some people is truly amazing, huh?

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