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She sounds like she might have a "nurturing" type of personality, so something in healthcare might suit her.

Best advice I can offer: Check the Occupational Outlook Handbook, published by the US Dept. of Labor. It might be online. It's in every library. It lists every conceivable type of job, what education is required, what the working conditions are, what the pay scales are, whether there are going to be more openings or fewer openings in the next 1-10 years, and all sorts of other factors. It is really informative. I hope that helps!
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Do ladies have any suggestions for a 20 year old who has never had a job? My daughter has volunteered @ hospice, house sat and dog sat in the past, but no paid jobs. She has been looking for two years and is very discouraged at this point.


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Originally Posted by juanab
Full-time or part-time?
If she's looking for a full-time career, my suggestion is to look into what kind of education or training she might want to do and how to make that happen.
Originally Posted by Amneris
Definitely part-time. College is her full-time job.




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She sounds like she might have a "nurturing" type of personality, so something in healthcare might suit her.

Best advice I can offer: Check the Occupational Outlook Handbook, published by the US Dept. of Labor. It might be online. It's in every library. It lists every conceivable type of job, what education is required, what the working conditions are, what the pay scales are, whether there are going to be more openings or fewer openings in the next 1-10 years, and all sorts of other factors. It is really informative. I hope that helps!
Originally Posted by curlypearl
CP, she wants to be a forensic psychologist.



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Juanab, is she ready to go to school for a very long time? At her young age, she may need to try out a few things before she is sure of her direction. I don't want to be throwing cold water on her dream but I think TV glamorizes that type of job.

Many years ago I was thinking of becoming a speech therapist and I was able to observe what they did. I decided I didn't want it. Is there any way she could contact a local police station and get in touch with a forensic psych? Maybe she could get an interview or a chance to watch what the person does.

It is so terribly difficult for young people today. I hope she gets a break!
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Juanab, is she ready to go to school for a very long time? At her young age, she may need to try out a few things before she is sure of her direction. I don't want to be throwing cold water on her dream but I think TV glamorizes that type of job.

Many years ago I was thinking of becoming a speech therapist and I was able to observe what they did. I decided I didn't want it. Is there any way she could contact a local police station and get in touch with a forensic psych? Maybe she could get an interview or a chance to watch what the person does.

It is so terribly difficult for young people today. I hope she gets a break!
Originally Posted by curlypearl
CP, I have discussed it with her. At this point, I believe it is more of an abstract, not a concrete. One moment she is sure, another moment she is not sure what she wants to be. I have explained to her it is fine at this point not know. She will figure it out as she gets further along.

Sadly, it is way more difficult for young people these days. Thanks.



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Do ladies have any suggestions for a 20 year old who has never had a job? My daughter has volunteered @ hospice, house sat and dog sat in the past, but no paid jobs. She has been looking for two years and is very discouraged at this point.


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Originally Posted by juanab
Full-time or part-time?
If she's looking for a full-time career, my suggestion is to look into what kind of education or training she might want to do and how to make that happen.
Originally Posted by Amneris
Definitely part-time. College is her full-time job.




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Originally Posted by juanab
What has she been doing to look? How often does she apply to jobs?

I don't know exactly what a forensic psychologist does, but I would imagine it involves the use some science and also spends some time at a computer and/or in an office. I'd think she could get a job at the university working part-time in an office (any office) or in a lab. If she's applying to jobs like this and not getting interviews, or if she's getting interviews and not jobs, she is probably coming across poorly for some reason.

My advice to any 20-year-old college students looking for a part-time job would be:
1. Anything that involves skills you can transfer to your future career is a better choice than retail, waitressing, etc., if the money is equal and/or money is not an issue. For many college grads, basic office skills are useful in practically any field.
2. She should be willing to do really boring, crappy work with really terrible hours and terrible pay. You have to start somewhere. Filing papers and getting coffee and answering phones for minimum wage at the admissions office, starting at 7am, for example.
3. Start with the school. Either positions AT the school (or in affiliated departments, such as a hospital, or a research lab, or off-site research groups, etc.). Since she's interested in forensics, maybe she could get something related to the school security department, and a law-enforcement direction.
4. It's a job. Just a job. To put on your resume. You don't have to like it. It doesn't have to be your dream job. Just do it.
5. You should have a real resume, have practiced interviews, and own a suit (or at least a dress shirt and dress pants). You should wear the suit to every interview. If you can see cleavage, or you can be described as "You know, the girl with the X" (where X could be anything about your hair, jewelery, makeup, clothes, etc.) then you failed in presenting yourself appropriately.
6. How many jobs have you applied to today? It's not enough. There's really no downside to applying. You get called back or you don't. If you get an interview it's great practice. Again, you're not looking for your dream job. You're just looking for SOMETHING to put on your resume that will get you to that next step. And at this point, the bar is super low--any job that can show you know how to show up on time and dressed appropriately, have manners, and can send an email will do it!
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Why on earth didn't I start waiting tables ten years ago?!

I've been doing all the tables all by myself, but I can't keep the tips...the girl who's training me gets them, and I'm getting regular minimum wage instead of restaurant minimum wage...so it kinda stings to see all these great tips I'm getting and not get to keep them! But at least I know what to expect in the future. The past two nights, I would have made over $100 in tips each night for less than 5 hours of work! Yikes!!!!
Originally Posted by CanItBeChristine
Hey! That's awesome! How long is your training period? 4 or 5 shifts?

And, shhhhhh!!!! Don't let the cat out of the bag! Waitresses make a lot more money than people think
Originally Posted by Rubber Biscuit

Thank you! I went in Saturday, Sunday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday and Friday for 4-5 hours each shift. I'm on my own on Wednesday this week, which is the busiest day of the week, so I hope I do okay.

I'm also working with my former drama director at a big local theatre, so I've been randomly hanging-out there. He introduced me as the "literary director" last night...hahaha...is that my title now? (I'm not getting paid.)
I like curlypearl's advice. For years I've been fantasizing about transitioning to medical writing, until I finally saw something so disgusting, I changed my mind.

Exposure to what interests her is the best path, imo.
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I like curlypearl's advice. For years I've been fantasizing about transitioning to medical writing, until I finally saw something so disgusting, I changed my mind.

Exposure to what interests her is the best path, imo.
Originally Posted by claudine19
Agreed.




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Full-time or part-time?
If she's looking for a full-time career, my suggestion is to look into what kind of education or training she might want to do and how to make that happen.
Originally Posted by Amneris
Definitely part-time. College is her full-time job.




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Originally Posted by juanab
What has she been doing to look? How often does she apply to jobs?

I don't know exactly what a forensic psychologist does, but I would imagine it involves the use some science and also spends some time at a computer and/or in an office. I'd think she could get a job at the university working part-time in an office (any office) or in a lab. If she's applying to jobs like this and not getting interviews, or if she's getting interviews and not jobs, she is probably coming across poorly for some reason.

My advice to any 20-year-old college students looking for a part-time job would be:
1. Anything that involves skills you can transfer to your future career is a better choice than retail, waitressing, etc., if the money is equal and/or money is not an issue. For many college grads, basic office skills are useful in practically any field.
2. She should be willing to do really boring, crappy work with really terrible hours and terrible pay. You have to start somewhere. Filing papers and getting coffee and answering phones for minimum wage at the admissions office, starting at 7am, for example.
3. Start with the school. Either positions AT the school (or in affiliated departments, such as a hospital, or a research lab, or off-site research groups, etc.). Since she's interested in forensics, maybe she could get something related to the school security department, and a law-enforcement direction.
4. It's a job. Just a job. To put on your resume. You don't have to like it. It doesn't have to be your dream job. Just do it.
5. You should have a real resume, have practiced interviews, and own a suit (or at least a dress shirt and dress pants). You should wear the suit to every interview. If you can see cleavage, or you can be described as "You know, the girl with the X" (where X could be anything about your hair, jewelery, makeup, clothes, etc.) then you failed in presenting yourself appropriately.
6. How many jobs have you applied to today? It's not enough. There's really no downside to applying. You get called back or you don't. If you get an interview it's great practice. Again, you're not looking for your dream job. You're just looking for SOMETHING to put on your resume that will get you to that next step. And at this point, the bar is super low--any job that can show you know how to show up on time and dressed appropriately, have manners, and can send an email will do it!
Originally Posted by Who Me?
Thanks. I will pass this on to her.




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Juanab, when I was in college, I waitressed two days a week and worked in an office two days a week. The office job was related to my major, but the waitressing job helped me pay off the tuition of every other semester, in cash. I was making $250+ a night, and I was in far less debt than my peers when we entered the real world.

In addition, I do think waitressing has many transferrable skills, and would like to point out a few:

1. You are the PR rep for your company to a certain number of people each and every night. You learn how to spin the negative into a positive. You learn to be 'on' all the time, whether you feel like it or not.

2. Time management. If you are waiting on 5 - 8 tables, all at different stages in their dining experience, all with different needs and personality types, you learn to prioritize your tasks.

3. Problem solving. A variety of problems crop up on a daily basis. You have to think on your feet to solve them.

Just wanted to offer a different perspective, since in my experience, I've known quite a few post-grads who struggled financially and thought that I'd point out the merits of waiting tables!
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- Character is how you treat those who can do nothing for you.
Juana has she looked into becoming a certified nursing assistant (CNA)? It's relatively easy and there can be plenty of opportunities for as-needed and part time.

Where is she located?
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Originally Posted by Poodlehead
@RB She would love to have a waitressing job.

@Curly We are in FL. Don't you have to get training for CNA?


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Last edited by juanab; 08-26-2012 at 11:20 AM.
so, i've applied to about 15 places this week. Yet, my mother has called me 4 times today about jobs from the same website, that aren't anywhere near where i'm going to be living. She keeps acting like its my fault I have no job. I've been out of school less than a month and already had 2 interviews with no success. Most places say they'll take 3 weeks to get back to me or so. I just don't know what to do in the mean time. All the money I have is saved up for when I have to start paying back student loans next month. My mother just says she's trying to push me, but her pushing ended up with me in tears today. It seems i'm either over qualified or underqualified for everything. I'm thinking of taking up TIG welding. They seem to be in hot demand up here.
Originally Posted by kstan
I think 2 interviews in a month is pretty great, honestly...
When I first moved to England my plan was to get a job then in a couple of months, move out and be in my own. I was living at my fiancées parents where he lives. Now if I would have done that, I'd be homeless. The job I had lasted exactly 3 months. Then the cut backs came. I was last in, first out. As living with your parents/in laws might be a choicei was glad I had that choice. Employment is so bad here that it took me a year to find the crap job I'm in. Now we don't live free of charge. We pay rent and buy most of our own food. We could mice out by what happens if me or my fiancée loose our jobs....then what? I know how it can be to live on your own. It was hard for me to make that adjustment, going from living alone to living with parents. It may not be perfect but it beats living in a dump where something might happen to you.


@RB She would love to have a waitressing job.

@Curly We are in FL. Don't you have to get training for CNA?


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Originally Posted by juanab
I went to school in Florida! Where are you located?

My first thought is to look for work at a country club... One of the best jobs I ever had! They are not all like this, but I think I made $9/hr plus tips. It was 18% gratuity on all checks and I usually made around $200 for 5-6 hours of work. Plus, I was home by 10:30! Plenty of time to get ready to... study...

p.s. The country clubs start hiring late October/early November to prepare for the upcoming season.
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- Character is how you treat those who can do nothing for you.
@RB She would love to have a waitressing job.

@Curly We are in FL. Don't you have to get training for CNA?


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Originally Posted by juanab
I went to school in Florida! Where are you located?

My first thought is to look for work at a country club... One of the best jobs I ever had! They are not all like this, but I think I made $9/hr plus tips. It was 18% gratuity on all checks and I usually made around $200 for 5-6 hours of work. Plus, I was home by 10:30! Plenty of time to get ready to... study...

p.s. The country clubs start hiring late October/early November to prepare for the upcoming season.
Originally Posted by Rubber Biscuit
We live in the Tampa Bay area. There is a country club right down the street from us!




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I had applied for a job earlier this year and got an interview, but wasn't given the job. The manager was really nice and promised to keep me on file (like they always say they'll do). Fast forward a couple months and I see a new opening. I emailed the manager to ask if it is okay for me to apply and I haven't received a response.

Did I miss up? Should I still go ahead and apply?
I ain't thirsty. There's plenty of fish in the sea, but I don't want all of them, can I have some standards? Or do we just have to settle, for someone's who meh and will do.
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Sure, KayB. Just apply - no harm done from asking the manager in advance, but not necessary. What's the worst that can happen - they can just not hire you.

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Thanks, CP. I know that sometimes firms will review resumes that are already on file before deciding to place ads for a post. I wanted to know if I was wasting my time (in a sense).


Hopefully the fact that I interviewed before and was proactive in emailing the manager will score me some brownie points.
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