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@RB She would love to have a waitressing job.

@Curly We are in FL. Don't you have to get training for CNA?


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Originally Posted by juanab
I went to school in Florida! Where are you located?

My first thought is to look for work at a country club... One of the best jobs I ever had! They are not all like this, but I think I made $9/hr plus tips. It was 18% gratuity on all checks and I usually made around $200 for 5-6 hours of work. Plus, I was home by 10:30! Plenty of time to get ready to... study...

p.s. The country clubs start hiring late October/early November to prepare for the upcoming season.
Originally Posted by Rubber Biscuit
We live in the Tampa Bay area. There is a country club right down the street from us!




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Originally Posted by juanab
She would have to take & pass the CNA exam. She can take a prep class for the exam if she wants. A quick google exam will let you know any companies in the area that offer the class.

Once she has certification she can look into hospitals, assisted living facilities, home care, day care, hospice, etc. Shifts can range in hours but hospitals typically offer 12 hour shifts and schedules can be flexible. If she's interested you can pm me and I can give you some more info. Just an idea since it seems like she enjoys caring for people & sciences

On another note has she looked into working at Publix or Starbucks? I've heard Publix is a great employer & I worked at Starbucks during undergrad and enjoyed working for the company.
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Originally Posted by Poodlehead
I feel like it should be easier to get a job with Starbucks considering how many of them there are! I've applied a bunch of times at various times in unemployment, and have never gotten calls.

I haven't gotten a single call for anything office-related the past two weeks. Trying not to get nervous.
Thanks, CP. I know that sometimes firms will review resumes that are already on file before deciding to place ads for a post. I wanted to know if I was wasting my time (in a sense).


Hopefully the fact that I interviewed before and was proactive in emailing the manager will score me some brownie points.
Originally Posted by kayb
I think brownie points should come with a side of brownies. Seems reasonable, doesn't it?
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I still would love to work in a hotel in a tourist heavy area. I would love to be a concierge.

I went to school in Florida! Where are you located?

My first thought is to look for work at a country club... One of the best jobs I ever had! They are not all like this, but I think I made $9/hr plus tips. It was 18% gratuity on all checks and I usually made around $200 for 5-6 hours of work. Plus, I was home by 10:30! Plenty of time to get ready to... study...

p.s. The country clubs start hiring late October/early November to prepare for the upcoming season.
Originally Posted by Rubber Biscuit
We live in the Tampa Bay area. There is a country club right down the street from us!




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Originally Posted by juanab
She would have to take & pass the CNA exam. She can take a prep class for the exam if she wants. A quick google exam will let you know any companies in the area that offer the class.

Once she has certification she can look into hospitals, assisted living facilities, home care, day care, hospice, etc. Shifts can range in hours but hospitals typically offer 12 hour shifts and schedules can be flexible. If she's interested you can pm me and I can give you some more info. Just an idea since it seems like she enjoys caring for people & sciences

On another note has she looked into working at Publix or Starbucks? I've heard Publix is a great employer & I worked at Starbucks during undergrad and enjoyed working for the company.
Originally Posted by goldy
Publix, yes. Starbucks, no. I have been passing all of this along to her. Thank you ladies.




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Not sure I agree with living with parents is always a choice. Its always said by older generations - and yet I see a lot of people of my generation (pretty much most people I went o uni with and friends from school) who are back living at home and no... a lot of them don't have many options right now.

Sure, now I could probably just about move out into somewhere very dodgy and sharing with other people, but it would leave me no money to save. And I could be jobless again come November if I am unable to find a new job immediately. Not a good position to be in.

However, when I was unemployed for 9 months - no I didn't have any other options.

I'm just a little tired of hearing that if you wanted to move out - you would find a way. Yes - the way I would do that, and the way I'm sure many people have in the past, is to work long hours at several crappy jobs. The great flaw in that plan of course, is when you cannot find even one crappy job to begin with.
Originally Posted by kat180
I think that people in their early 20s (wow - only about 10 years younger than me and I feel old now!) are more "picky" and that's why they don't see it as a choice. Sure, you might have to live somewhere "dodgy" and have a ton of roommates and you might not be able to save money, but who says living somewhere nice alone and saving money are requirements?

Nothing is stopping anyone from applying for unemployment or assistance or doing menial labour and moving out, except that they want a better standard of living, which their parents provide. That's fine, but you (general) are LUCKY if your parents are willing to let an adult child live at home rent-free, provide food for them, let them use their car, TV and all the rest of it. Yet I hear so many adults living at home complaining about their parents and the way they live and their rules / habits etc.

That's why people say it's a choice. If you (general) choose not to want the hard-knock life and to stay in the relative comfort of your parents' home, but then complain non-stop about your parents, people are going to suggest that you move out or remind you that you're making a choice so you shouldn't act like a victim.

Of course, in some cultures, living at home until marriage or unless away at school is assumed and expected and that's a whole other discussion.
Originally Posted by Amneris
Exactly. No one said it's a good choice, but it IS a choice. Even if the choice is be homeless or live with your parents, it's STILL a choice. But I also think that if something terrible happened and a lot of the 20-somethings could no longer live with their parents, they wouldn't all be homeless either...they'd end up living in crappy apartments with lots of roommates and no cable or internet connection and eating ramen noodles every day maybe...it's just that so many 20-somethings don't see it as a choice. They don't realize that having your own room (heck, your own bed!), a tv, good heat, etc. aren't "necessities" you can't live without!
Originally Posted by Who Me?
Call me a spoilt 20-something year old but I don't consider being homeless a choice. Its certainly not an option anyone makes unless they have serious problems at home.

Don't you think you're doing just a bit of a disservice to the younger generation? I'm kind of getting tired of hearing how we all expect to have the luxuries we grew up with without working for them. I'd quite happily live in a crappier apartment with friends but its not been an option for the past two years. It's not been an option for a lot of people I know. I'm hopeful, however, that it will be soon. That's not to say they're aren't people in their 20s who could move out if they really wanted to. And thats not to say there aren't people who have never really worked for anything in their lives and live of their parents money well into adulthood. But I object to the general statement that its true for everyone. For example - I have a friend who was unemployed for a year. She final got an internship where she works 40+ hours a week, for barely any money. You don't get to claim benefits if you are doing an internship.

I've claimed unemployment benefits. I couldn't even have afforded student accommodation on what I received. It's not as easy as it seems.

Out of curiosity, how much were you (gy) earning at 24? I know my parents were married and had a house for several years by that age. Things have changed a lot in a short amount of time.
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Last edited by kat180; 08-27-2012 at 05:53 PM.
I also can probably name at least ten friends off the top of my head who do indeed live on their own...and get MAJOR help from the families...some parents just outright pay all of their rent. I have a friend whose mom paid her $2500 a month rent (for a Union Square studio) for two years while she tried to "make it" as a make-up artist at 32. It didn't work-out, she moved back home. I have another friend who comes from a very wealthy family and his parents pay his rent and he comes and goes as he pleases between the coasts.

I think that people in their early 20s (wow - only about 10 years younger than me and I feel old now!) are more "picky" and that's why they don't see it as a choice. Sure, you might have to live somewhere "dodgy" and have a ton of roommates and you might not be able to save money, but who says living somewhere nice alone and saving money are requirements?

Nothing is stopping anyone from applying for unemployment or assistance or doing menial labour and moving out, except that they want a better standard of living, which their parents provide. That's fine, but you (general) are LUCKY if your parents are willing to let an adult child live at home rent-free, provide food for them, let them use their car, TV and all the rest of it. Yet I hear so many adults living at home complaining about their parents and the way they live and their rules / habits etc.

That's why people say it's a choice. If you (general) choose not to want the hard-knock life and to stay in the relative comfort of your parents' home, but then complain non-stop about your parents, people are going to suggest that you move out or remind you that you're making a choice so you shouldn't act like a victim.

Of course, in some cultures, living at home until marriage or unless away at school is assumed and expected and that's a whole other discussion.
Originally Posted by Amneris
Exactly. No one said it's a good choice, but it IS a choice. Even if the choice is be homeless or live with your parents, it's STILL a choice. But I also think that if something terrible happened and a lot of the 20-somethings could no longer live with their parents, they wouldn't all be homeless either...they'd end up living in crappy apartments with lots of roommates and no cable or internet connection and eating ramen noodles every day maybe...it's just that so many 20-somethings don't see it as a choice. They don't realize that having your own room (heck, your own bed!), a tv, good heat, etc. aren't "necessities" you can't live without!
Originally Posted by Who Me?
Call me a spoilt 20-something year old but I don't consider being homeless a choice. Its certainly not an option anyone makes unless they have serious problems at home.

Don't you think you're doing just a bit of a disservice to the younger generation? I'm kind of getting tired of hearing how we all expect to have the luxuries we grew up with without working for them. I'd quite happily live in a crappier apartment with friends but its not been an option for the past two years. It's not been an option for a lot of people I know. I'm hopeful, however, that it will be soon. That's not to say they're aren't people in their 20s who could move out if they really wanted to. And thats not to say there aren't people who have never really worked for anything in their lives and live of their parents money well into adulthood. But I object to the general statement that its true for everyone. For example - I have a friend who was unemployed for a year. She final got an internship where she works 40+ hours a week, for barely any money. You don't get to claim benefits if you are doing an internship.

I've claimed unemployment benefits. I couldn't even have afforded student accommodation on what I received. It's not as easy as it seems.

Out of curiosity, how much were you (gy) earning at 24? I know my parents were married and had a house for several years by that age. Things have changed a lot in a short amount of time.
Originally Posted by kat180
I know, kat, and no one is saying it's easy or blaming anyone for their hard times, but we're just saying that living at home is a choice, with specific reference to CIBC's friend. In most cases, it isn't "live with parents or be homeless." If my husband and I ever find it too tough to make it on our own, both sets of parents have made it clear their doors are always open for us and the kids, but I'd have to be extremely desperate to even contemplate it. I wasn't reacting so much to the fact that people find it necessary to be at home as to the fact that they find it necessary to be at home but then complain instead of being thankful they do have a support system keeping them off the streets.

How much was I earning at 24? It's hard to recall specifics, but from singing, maybe $10-15K a year or so, from teaching maybe another $8-9K, plus writing stuff off and getting a nice tax return, and then I had another part-time job for maybe another $10K. I didn't find that to be enough, so shortly after that, I took a full-time office job. I agree the market did seem to be better and that was less than 10 years ago.
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Thanks, CP. I know that sometimes firms will review resumes that are already on file before deciding to place ads for a post. I wanted to know if I was wasting my time (in a sense).

That would be rather nice.


Hopefully the fact that I interviewed before and was proactive in emailing the manager will score me some brownie points.
Originally Posted by kayb
I think brownie points should come with a side of brownies. Seems reasonable, doesn't it?
Originally Posted by claudine19
That would be rather lovely.
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Tomorrow, I wait for the first time totally on my own (even though I'm sure I'll be able to ask lots of questions if I need to, since everyone is very nice.) I'm nervous!!! It's "burger night". I haven't eaten beef in over ten years, but I'm determined to be a fantastic burger sever, darnit....................

Everyone's supernice, there are SO many regulars, and it's hardly some high class place with a lot of snooty clientele. I worked enough retail to know that some people you'll just never make happy and never to take it personally.

I have an interview on Tuesday for an organization that works with kids and theatre. I actually checked the staff page and it's ALL women. I kept saying I was sick of working for all of these catty artsy men (I know, I know. Don't generalize...but that's what I'm running into time and again!). The office I temp'd in March-May was all women, and was the most positive office I've ever been in.

(Made the mistake of telling my mother about this new office! She said, of course, "Are they lesbians?" BANGS HEAD.)

So, I'm going in to meet with them on Tuesday morning, and then with a staffing agency I had two friends highly recommend me.

If waitressing keeps going well, I might just keep interviewing and "play the field" if I get another offer and not settle for the first thing that comes around. Can I be honest? I am TERRIFIED of offices at this point. I know I need to build-up my confidence to the point that if I ever DO end-up in an office full of jerks and they treat me like crap and fire me again, it won't get to me at all. I mean, this last office didn't really hurt me nearly as much as the others have, so I guess that's a start.

I went to see a new therapist today (I started seeing a free one through my township last winter, and then started working and stopped going. She moved so I went to see a new one today.) She told me that it clearly sounds like, logically, I know what the problem is and that it's not me, and not to let it all get to me. I kept telling her that my goal is to just not end-up as depressed as I've been in the past. I really don't want to go there again, but part of me keeps nagging myself, "HOW DID YOU LOSE ANOTHER JOB? WHAT THE EFF IS WRONG WITH YOU?"
CIBC, I think office work has gotten much more difficult than it used to be. We are expected to be up on all the new technology which changes overnight and often our jobs have gray areas, like having to do personal work for our supervisors, or having to work irregular hours and unpaid overtime.

Above all, with the economy so lousy, management can afford to let us go at the drop of a hat, because there will be 50 others waiting in line to get our job.

If you are doing well with waitressing, maybe ease up on yourself and coast a bit. Don't take something working in an office if the little warning voice in your head goes off. Good luck to you!
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Yeah if the waitressing thing is working out and giving you time to write why not stick with that rather than looking for more office work. Neither are great fun I know lol, but in some ways I'd prefer waitressing to sitting in an office all day long.
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Exactly. No one said it's a good choice, but it IS a choice. Even if the choice is be homeless or live with your parents, it's STILL a choice. But I also think that if something terrible happened and a lot of the 20-somethings could no longer live with their parents, they wouldn't all be homeless either...they'd end up living in crappy apartments with lots of roommates and no cable or internet connection and eating ramen noodles every day maybe...it's just that so many 20-somethings don't see it as a choice. They don't realize that having your own room (heck, your own bed!), a tv, good heat, etc. aren't "necessities" you can't live without!
Originally Posted by Who Me?
Call me a spoilt 20-something year old but I don't consider being homeless a choice. Its certainly not an option anyone makes unless they have serious problems at home.

Don't you think you're doing just a bit of a disservice to the younger generation? I'm kind of getting tired of hearing how we all expect to have the luxuries we grew up with without working for them. I'd quite happily live in a crappier apartment with friends but its not been an option for the past two years. It's not been an option for a lot of people I know. I'm hopeful, however, that it will be soon. That's not to say they're aren't people in their 20s who could move out if they really wanted to. And thats not to say there aren't people who have never really worked for anything in their lives and live of their parents money well into adulthood. But I object to the general statement that its true for everyone. For example - I have a friend who was unemployed for a year. She final got an internship where she works 40+ hours a week, for barely any money. You don't get to claim benefits if you are doing an internship.

I've claimed unemployment benefits. I couldn't even have afforded student accommodation on what I received. It's not as easy as it seems.

Out of curiosity, how much were you (gy) earning at 24? I know my parents were married and had a house for several years by that age. Things have changed a lot in a short amount of time.
Originally Posted by kat180
I know, kat, and no one is saying it's easy or blaming anyone for their hard times, but we're just saying that living at home is a choice, with specific reference to CIBC's friend. In most cases, it isn't "live with parents or be homeless." If my husband and I ever find it too tough to make it on our own, both sets of parents have made it clear their doors are always open for us and the kids, but I'd have to be extremely desperate to even contemplate it. I wasn't reacting so much to the fact that people find it necessary to be at home as to the fact that they find it necessary to be at home but then complain instead of being thankful they do have a support system keeping them off the streets.

How much was I earning at 24? It's hard to recall specifics, but from singing, maybe $10-15K a year or so, from teaching maybe another $8-9K, plus writing stuff off and getting a nice tax return, and then I had another part-time job for maybe another $10K. I didn't find that to be enough, so shortly after that, I took a full-time office job. I agree the market did seem to be better and that was less than 10 years ago.
Originally Posted by Amneris
I agree with you there

On a separate note. I'm thinking of trying for an internship in a publishing house, see if that's a career path for me. I'd love to work in something to do with books and an opportunity to move up in the work place in the future. But the lack of earning is giving me pause. I'm very aware I only have just over 2 months until my current jobs finishes.
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Well, I made one mistake tonight (completely didn't realize a table was mine and never went over and they complained.)

But...

Now I know how dumb I feel when that happens and it will NEVER HAPPEN AGAIN.
Oh CIBC, if you had a nickel for all the mistakes I've made, you'd never have to work again.

I got fired when I tried waitressing. It's hard!

Take heart Tomorrow will be better.
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She is nagging me that the difference between me and herself is that if SHE was working at this restaurant SHE would make a fashion statement (out of the t-shirt, athletic pants and sneakers) so she would look nice and feel good about herself. I am ready to SCREAM AT her! I was supposed to move out!

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