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If he's going to trash me after posting that letter publicly, then he has serious issues and is just making himself look crazy.
Originally Posted by CanItBeChristine
But he DOES have serious issues. He IS crazy. (Or seems to be.)

He routinely did things when you worked for him that made him look crazy. Clearly he could give a crap what people think about him.

I would remove him from your references. Just try it for a while. It really cannot hurt.

After the way he treated you, I don’t think he can be trusted any more than the people you worked for 7 months ago. I know he’s big in the industry, but WHO CARES if he is what is standing between you a great job? I don’t think his crazy butt is helping you at all!

I’m kind of begging you right now. Please, get rid of him.
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Last edited by wild~hair; 03-08-2013 at 01:17 PM. Reason: Edited out the swears because I am hoping for once CIBC actually reads my advice — and responds to it in any way at all.
He is not trashing me.
Originally Posted by CanItBeChristine
But it wouldn't hurt to take him off your references for a month or two, right? If you still don't get anything, or you have even less success with interviews, then you know it isn't him and you can put him back.
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I had an interview at a veterinary office and got a call back. This one looks good and I'm keeping my fingers crossed. I am fortunate that this manager looks beyond job titles at previous employers and recognizes that skills are transferable to any number of careers!

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He is not trashing me.

My other references are very close friends that I talk to all the time. One of them actually told me that nobody has ever once called him as a reference.

So that means even IF, like, five people have called my former boss as a reference, there is NO WAY that he has anything to do with me not getting the dozens and dozens and dozens of jobs I have interviewed for.

And I still stand by my thought that he is not trashing me because he put a rave letter about me on Linked-In. Publicly. He kept me in his office for years. He gave me thousands of dollars towards a creative project I worked on independently. He did not have to do that. He gains NOTHING from trashing me, especially considering it's been 2.5 years since I have worked for him. He has even given me numerous free tickets to his productions since then.

I appreciate and understand the concern, but I really do not think he's trashing me.

I also think it would look even shadier if people ask me if they can call him and I tell them no.
So on day 4 of the temp job, they had the agency call me to see if I'd be interested in a perm position (yeah I'm that awesome, lol). So now here is my dilemma, the perm position is in hr (temp is in legal). I've had some bad experiences with hr departments, and basically feel they are evil (no offense to any hr personnel out there), can I in good conscience apply for/take an hr position? Totally a personal choice I know, but I'm in a quandary.

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I also think it would look even shadier if people ask me if they can call him and I tell them no.
Originally Posted by CanItBeChristine
I don't have any names on my résumé. After an interview, I've had them ask for references right then, or they've followed in later via phone and asked. I then hand them a paper or email them the names, contact info, and titles of 3 professional references.

I'd just not have him as one of those names for awhile. Just to see.


But also, I've never had a job ask for my references when they weren't already planning to hire me as long as the references checked out. And same thing when I've been on the other side...we don't ask for someone's references until we've decided they're the one we want to hire.
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So on day 4 of the temp job, they had the agency call me to see if I'd be interested in a perm position (yeah I'm that awesome, lol). So now here is my dilemma, the perm position is in hr (temp is in legal). I've had some bad experiences with hr departments, and basically feel they are evil (no offense to any hr personnel out there), can I in good conscience apply for/take an hr position? Totally a personal choice I know, but I'm in a quandary.

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Originally Posted by TRBL
Congrats on the job offer! Speak to your temp agency contact and ask him/her what the job entails and explain why you're hesitant to accept. Then you can make an informed decision.
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Well I've been offered and accepted the position at the vets office! So glad to find an employer who understands the desire and ability to do a 180 on career! The pay is much less than I made before but I am thrilled to be off the DoD contractor path. I am also very, very fortunate that I have the support of a fabulous husband who wants me to be happy and fulfilled!

I was born to be a pessimist. My blood type is B Negative.

I also think it would look even shadier if people ask me if they can call him and I tell them no.
Originally Posted by CanItBeChristine
I don't have any names on my résumé. After an interview, I've had them ask for references right then, or they've followed in later via phone and asked. I then hand them a paper or email them the names, contact info, and titles of 3 professional references.

I'd just not have him as one of those names for awhile. Just to see.


But also, I've never had a job ask for my references when they weren't already planning to hire me as long as the references checked out. And same thing when I've been on the other side...we don't ask for someone's references until we've decided they're the one we want to hire.
Originally Posted by Who Me?

I do not have references on my resume.

MANY times, a job ad will require references when you apply. The ad will ask for 3 references. I have used his name, ad well as the letter he wrote for me, which people always comment on and make a big deal over. (And I know I've said this before, but he PUT THIS LETTER ON LINKED-IN HIMSELF.) "Hey, I'm checking-up on CanItBeChristine? She worked for you for years, you wrote this rave letter for her which you published publicly, and you funded her off-Broadway production?" "She's terrible, don't hire her." It makes no sense.

We can say whatever we want about him, but he's also a very savvy businessman and knows what he is doing. He would not risk a lawsuit, which I would have if he was defaming me.

I'm not entertaining this conversation anymore. I know you all mean well, but I'm the one who knows this guy. Despite everything else, and from what my best friend in the office has even told me, he was FILLED WITH GUILT for having to let me go and my friend even told me I had him in the palm of my hand because he felt so guilty.
I applied for 4 jobs today! Well, maybe 3...one was on monster and seemed to be posted by an agency and sounded very similar to one of the ones I applied to directly through the company website. I hope I hear something! The last time I applies for a job I didn't hear anything for a couple months!
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I think I got an offer on the spot today???

Will type more when I'm at a comp.
Originally Posted by CanItBeChristine
What? WHAT? And I'm supposed to go to bed, not knowing the details????

cibc, you tease!!!
Originally Posted by KurlyKae
Haha, sorry!

So, the job was to be a publicist to theatre on a much smaller scale than what I worked on previously, which is okay with me!

The owner of the company was only a year older than me, and before I went-in, I researched him a bit and just told myself, "You have nothing to worry about. You've probably done as much as he has previously, and all he's done differently was start his own firm!"

He came-right out and said, "You're my second interview and I really don't feel the need to interview anybody else because I think you have the perfect background for the job."

He said we'll need to talk logistics. The job is part-time (20 to up to 35 hours a week, though, which is better than 10!) and I'll need to figure-out what exactly I want to do...ideally, I think I need to find another part-time job in the city and make the move, but for the meanwhile, I'll have to make my retail job in NJ and this one work.

It's actually a GREAT hourly wage, though, and I'm very happy with THAT!

I don't want to put the cart before the horse because I've been disappointed and lead-on SO MANY TIMES and if this guy drops me after this, it will be the ultimate, "WHAT THE EFF?" moment.

A former co-worker of mine (at my last theatre press job) went on to replace this guy at his last job, so I told him he could call him for a reference.

I texted my friend to give him a heads-up that he'd be calling and he said, "He already called. I gave him a glowing recommendation and told him how much everybody in the community really loves you."

It would be SO AMAZING to be back in the NYC theatre industry. I really miss it, and the energy, and while this one wouldn't involve as many celebrities and big events as the last job, I'd get to work on a lot of different kinds of plays and meet tons of people.

Soooooooooooooooo.

I mean, welllllllllllllllllllllllll.

I'm going to keep this on the down low for a while,and I only told one friend and I basically said, "I really don't want to tell anybody that I got a new job until I've successfully been there for 10 years or until I have a new play premiering that's a huge success."

I'm trying to relax, and telling myself that, like my friend told me a few weeks ago, I don't NEED or want this steady 9 to 6 day job and I'll never find success in that. If this job works-out, and then also the freelancing book job works-out (I emailed them again yesterday to check in, haven't heard back yet), then I could be in really good shape, and then I also never know when I'm going to get the next production of my own stuff.
Originally Posted by CanItBeChristine

So, after everything I've gone through with jobs, I was apprehensive to really tell anybody about this, but I started this job last week!

The man actually told me I was hired by emailing me from my new work email address (which I thought was cute.)

He's very nice, and was in a similar volatile entertainment office as I was before he started his own firm (partially because he got fed-up with the abuse!)

He sent-out a mass email to everybody in the community telling them I was there now, and I got a lot of very nice responses from people who remembered me from my last position.

Like I said, I am very cautious and apprehensive at the moment...I can't help it after everything I've seen in offices and the type of people I've dealt with.

It's part-time for now, so I'm staying at the store. (I'm working 7 days a week next week, so I'm just going to have to make sure I'm eating right and taking care of myself!)

I also interviewed in person for that Christian Youth Theatre (they were SO nice and the job is just a 20-hour a week remotely done job) and then the British company FINALLY gets back to me and says "Sorry we've been out of touch, can you talk later today?" and I said, "Sure, call me after 3:30 when I'm off of work!" Annnnnnnnnnnnnnnd that was Monday. Never heard from them again!
Congrats, CIBC!! Good luck.

We told you CIBC that it will work out!!! didnt we?!?! WHOO HOO!! You're on your way now!!! I'm telling ya!! You better mention us when you get your first Tony!!
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I also interviewed in person for that Christian Youth Theatre (they were SO nice and the job is just a 20-hour a week remotely done job) and then the British company FINALLY gets back to me and says "Sorry we've been out of touch, can you talk later today?" and I said, "Sure, call me after 3:30 when I'm off of work!" Annnnnnnnnnnnnnnd that was Monday. Never heard from them again!
Originally Posted by CanItBeChristine
Both of these are remote jobs, right? That would be so amazing if you could quit the store and be working on part-time job in person in NYC, and another remotely from home!!

If I were you I'd call back the British company today with a friendly, "Hi, this is CIBC, I'm just following up on your call from earlier this week. I'd love to keep in touch". Can't hurt. They seem super busy, and I can imagine your number just sitting on someone's desk and lingering on someone's to-do list.
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I absolutely hate it when I am applying for a job on-line and their system requires you to complete every single data entry field about your entire life history without copying and pasting before you can move to the next page, of oh, say, 12 pages and then BAM on the last page, you can attach your flippin resume. Grrr. PIA.
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Thank you very much, everyone.

Funny story, the day I started the new job, a casual friend of mine who is a critic emailed me and asked if I wanted to go to a concert with her and write about it for her website. I had nothing else to do, so I went, and guess who is sitting a few rows ahead of me???

My former boss of 3 years!

I've seen him around the community here and there over the past 2 years, but I always hide from him.

The show I was at was a concert that is held once a month with different people and my friend goes every month. When she saw my former boss was there, she said, "This is SO weird, I have NEVER once seen him here and now the first time you come, he's sitting right there..."

I told her, "I'm going to go over to him at intermission and give him a very warm hello."

She was like "ARE YOU SURE?"

I felt like I had to do that, to prove that I wasn't going to let him scare me every time I saw him around, that if I was going to be part of the community in ANY way, I had to just let go of him, that he does not own the theatre community and I have just as much right to be there as he does.

And I did just that!

Honestly, going up to somebody that hurt you that much and being pleasant is the hardest thing you will ever do.

He was with a former co-worker of mine, who jumped right up and gave me a big hug and kiss and smile, and my former boss gave me this awkward hand squeeze and tight smile and an "You look great" (and I said, "And you look like a creepier and older James Woods...")

I walked back to my seat and honestly felt like if I could do THAT, I could do ANYTHING.
I had 2.5 hours worth of interviews yesterday for the perm position where I've been temping. I think they went well. Writing 5 personalized thank you notes, on the other hand, was a pain in the butt.

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Good luck TRBL!!! It will have been worth it to write those notes when you land that job. Keep us posted
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