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Old 04-08-2007, 02:23 PM   #41
 
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I will be in the next month or two if my grant is not renewed. I really want to start my own arts education non profit but.....
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I'm finishing up my Master in Arts Administration and looking for a non-profit job doesn't have to be arts related at this point but every job I'm seeing is asking for 3-5 years experience. I really don't understand how I can get that when I'm just starting out.

Do I have to get with a company any way I can and then kind of get promoted into it? Internship my way into it? I'm really at a loss on what kind of things I should be doing. I've done some intersnhsips but some of the people I'm going to school with already have Development Director positions and I'm curious how they got into it.
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I'm finishing up my Master in Arts Administration and looking for a non-profit job doesn't have to be arts related at this point but every job I'm seeing is asking for 3-5 years experience. I really don't understand how I can get that when I'm just starting out.

Do I have to get with a company any way I can and then kind of get promoted into it? Internship my way into it? I'm really at a loss on what kind of things I should be doing. I've done some intersnhsips but some of the people I'm going to school with already have Development Director positions and I'm curious how they got into it.
You apply for those jobs that ask for 3-5 years experience. Those are just "pie in the sky"...what they HOPE to get in an employee. If you have done internships and you have people who will give you A-1 recommendations, then GO FOR THOSE JOBS.

Someone on another board told me once to apply to any job for which I meet 75% of the qualifications, so that's what I do.

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Right now my dilemma is this: do I look for teaching jobs (think I would like to do that eventually, maybe right now but not necessarily) or do I look for something closer to what I have now, but better?
Meegs, what kind of teaching job would you eventually like and what field are you in? Being a teacher myself, naturally I'm curious...
Current field: publishing. Would like to teach at a two-year college. That's what my current internship is right now. Yes, I am taking classes, doing an internship and working full-time--I am insane. To cut an extremely long story short, right now my choices are:

1. Look for full-time teaching job now. Tenure-track jobs are hard to find, and I'd have to be open to moving to the job for at least the first few years. I don't want to move--that's the main drawback of this plan.

2. Keep my current job or find a new job and adjunct for a few years to get some experience and increase my chances of finding a teaching job w/o moving. Drawback: at least two more years of an insane schedule similar to the one I've endured for the last two years. Sooner or later I have to start having a life.

3. Stick w/ something closer to my current job and keep the teaching thing in my back pocket for a little while.

Decisions, decisions!

I did finally get a call back from that other job. I have an interview.
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I'm finishing up my Master in Arts Administration and looking for a non-profit job doesn't have to be arts related at this point but every job I'm seeing is asking for 3-5 years experience. I really don't understand how I can get that when I'm just starting out.

Do I have to get with a company any way I can and then kind of get promoted into it? Internship my way into it? I'm really at a loss on what kind of things I should be doing. I've done some intersnhsips but some of the people I'm going to school with already have Development Director positions and I'm curious how they got into it.
You apply for those jobs that ask for 3-5 years experience. Those are just "pie in the sky"...what they HOPE to get in an employee. If you have done internships and you have people who will give you A-1 recommendations, then GO FOR THOSE JOBS.

Someone on another board told me once to apply to any job for which I meet 75% of the qualifications, so that's what I do.

Good luck!
Whew!! Thanks, PH. That thought just occurred to me today as I was thinking my "job" thoughts. I'm gonna get cracking soon then.
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Well, I just had a very promising interview. But, that's the only one of three that I'd even consider. If I don't get it, then . . . back to the drawing board.

Good luck to those of you that also have/had promising interviews.
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I'm finishing up my Master in Arts Administration and looking for a non-profit job doesn't have to be arts related at this point but every job I'm seeing is asking for 3-5 years experience. I really don't understand how I can get that when I'm just starting out.
Do I have to get with a company any way I can and then kind of get promoted into it? Internship my way into it? I'm really at a loss on what kind of things I should be doing. I've done some intersnhsips but some of the people I'm going to school with already have Development Director positions and I'm curious how they got into it.
I have this problem too. I have a Master in Project Management and I have yet to see an ad that doesn't require 5+ years experience. I went on 1 interview and when I told the guy I had a masters but no experiece the guy says annoyed "that is academic, what about real life?"

Seriously, I don't know that the masters is worth it since the only way to get to get the job is getting promoted.
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What is going on this week? Any luck in the job search/ Any sob stories?

Nothing for me this week. No call backs.
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Count me in!

Laid off three weeks ago!

Since them...

1.) Turned down one job that really wasn't a wise career move. No regrets!

2.) Had a very successful phone interview but didn't meet with the woman in person because it really wasn't anywhere near my field.

3.) Had a GREAT interview with a big newspaper company on Monday. Felt like I nailed it, then they called me to come back on Friday!

4.) After that interview on Friday, I am meeting for another position with a newspaper!
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Wow Christine, all that in just 3 weeks??

How many resumes are you able to send out a day?

Sounds like you definately can pick and choose. I''ve only had 4 interviews over the last 3 months plus 2 last summer.
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I know! It's weird. I also had an interview with a publishing house that I didn't get, but I didn't really want it...

I have high hopes for the callback on Friday, especially since they said they were only calling back two people!

I DO send out a gazillion resumes, but have learned to start reading job ads carefully and deciding if I actually want to before I do so!!!!!
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Also, Violets, I see you're in NJ...so am I, but my last job was in NYC and I'm looking there once again...where are you looking?
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I DO send out a gazillion resumes, but have learned to start reading job ads carefully and deciding if I actually want to before I do so!!!!!
I've learned this too.
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I DO send out a gazillion resumes, but have learned to start reading job ads carefully and deciding if I actually want to before I do so!!!!!
I've learned this too.
When I had my first jobhunt (It took me two years after college to find a full-time job!) I would apply apply apply without even READING the ads. Ugh...learned my lesson.

Plus, tons of staffing agencies called me then and even some now. I don't really like dealing with those places, since I've gotten a lot of interviews without them.
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Also, Violets, I see you're in NJ...so am I, but my last job was in NYC and I'm looking there once again...where are you looking?
Commuting to NYC would be over an hour for me. Kind of impossible to do with a 4 year old. I need to find something close to my house ( central NJ)
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I just got a call on Friday from Accenture. They have a Senior Instructional Designer position available for either a May or a July start. I told her the July start would be better for me. We tentatively scheduled my interview for Thursday; she'll follow up on Monday with the details.

I nearly accepted a job with them last fall but then there was a huge shakeup at my work, so literally out of the goodness of my heart, I stayed. But now things are calm again and I'm ready to get the hell OUT of academia and back into the corporate world.

Also, the pay is better this time around, by nearly $4000. Go figure.

Alsoalso, there's way more room for advancement there than there is at the U. The rate we're going over here I could grow old and retire without moving up an inch. Or getting a raise (the average staff raise is 1% per year).
OOH, good job-getting-thoughts for you PH! Are you interviewing today? Good luck!
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Right now my dilemma is this: do I look for teaching jobs (think I would like to do that eventually, maybe right now but not necessarily) or do I look for something closer to what I have now, but better?
Meegs, what kind of teaching job would you eventually like and what field are you in? Being a teacher myself, naturally I'm curious...
Current field: publishing. Would like to teach at a two-year college. That's what my current internship is right now. Yes, I am taking classes, doing an internship and working full-time--I am insane. To cut an extremely long story short, right now my choices are:

1. Look for full-time teaching job now. Tenure-track jobs are hard to find, and I'd have to be open to moving to the job for at least the first few years. I don't want to move--that's the main drawback of this plan.

2. Keep my current job or find a new job and adjunct for a few years to get some experience and increase my chances of finding a teaching job w/o moving. Drawback: at least two more years of an insane schedule similar to the one I've endured for the last two years. Sooner or later I have to start having a life.

3. Stick w/ something closer to my current job and keep the teaching thing in my back pocket for a little while.

Decisions, decisions!

I did finally get a call back from that other job. I have an interview.
Congrats!

I'm in the English field too. If you want to go into CC teaching in that discipline, I would recommend trying to get some experience teaching at one of the local schools before thinking of a full-on academic job search. Obviously right now your schedule doesn't sound like this is an option (I sympathize: I work full-time and teach 2 grad classes and serve on a bunch of MFA thesis committees!), but maybe down the road you could fit in a class or two. Teaching as an adjunct will really improve your chances (either with a local school or for future out-of-area schools you'd apply to) if/when you make the transition to looking for more permanent teaching work. This experience I think is especially important if your ultimate goal is to teach in a 2-year school; they really want to see that you've got experience in an institution that focuses on the CC goals/mission.

Sadly, though, the academic job market is just bleak, bleak bleak, no matter what your field. And so fiercely competitive. If you want to talk any more about any of this, feel free to PM me...
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Today's updates!

1) First, I went to the newspaper company for a second interview. I WANTED IT SO MUCH! The first interview with them went SO well, and I think I just built it up too much in my head and started stressing too much I didn't sleep much last night (my dog was walking around making noise all night too!) and wasn't my best today I met the director of the division, and I wasn't in there too long. I feel like I rambled. HOWEVER...maybe I can hope that I made enough of an impression on the HR woman and the other lady I met with on Monday and maybe when they're making their decisions, those two can root for me in case the director wasn't sure of me...

2) After that interview, I went to the newspaper and I really am not interested in this position, even though it's a huge paper and the building's great and seemed like a nice place to work. I was a little bummed after my first interview, so I think I just "didn't care" and was pretty relaxed, plus, the lady was VERY nice...we talked for a while, then she made me wait to see if the manager was available to meet with me, but he wasn't, so she asked me if I could come back next week. I'm going on Tuesday.

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I swear interviews are the worse. They are so completely draining. The last few interviews it seems have been out of state and it always happens that as soon as I get in my car to leave I get intensely tired, I could just curl up right there in the parking lot and take a nap.
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Aren't they!? I had one at 11 AM and then one at 2 today. I was on the train by 4 and had been looking forward to reading, but instead, conked out!

I could seriously write a BOOK about the interviews I went on after graduation...2 years, 9,354 interviews...

-one place shook my hand, said, "Welcome aboard!" and didn't hire me!

-one with an INCREDIBLY creepy man who asked me, "Are you a good liar? This job is about not managing my office, but managing my personal life...I have a very interesting personal life...you would have to learn to be very discreet. (Offered me the job on the spot. I called him later and told him I couldn't, because I had asthma. He was a heavy smoker and smoked in the office!)

-one for a play licensing company, which I was actually quite interested in, and the HR woman went on and on and on to me about how horrible the boss was. "You will feel happy at the end of each day because you have survived another day. He will make you feel lower than dirt. You are not allowed to talk to him in the elevator. IF you're not interested, tell me now. It is your get out of jail free card!" (wow).

-some dude who gave me the third degree of why I had been out of college "soooooooo" long (1.5 years at the time) and was still at my college job (working in a bookstore!) I wanted to belt him! Geeze, I'm sorry if my current job isn't good enough for you, but I'm obviously applying and interviewing!
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