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Old 05-04-2007, 09:09 AM   #21
 
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Here in Washington, kids only get a certain number of unexcused absenses per year. I think it's 5.
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Old 05-04-2007, 09:13 AM   #22
 
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Iris, as per district guidelines, where I live:

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Families are encouraged to take vacations when school is closed. It should be noted that absences due to family vacations are considered unexcused (illegal) in New York State.
You're about to break the law


We're going to read about this in a few months, aren't we?

"Mother gives birth in prison hospital after being incarcerated for talking child out of school for family vacation"
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Old 05-04-2007, 09:57 AM   #23
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Wow. An unexcused absence is illegal?

My parents let us stay home whenever we wanted for "mental health days." We never abused it. We all got good grades and two of us were accepted to Ivy League schools.

DJ is only in preschool and they get upset about absences also.
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Old 05-04-2007, 11:27 AM   #24
 
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My experience has been that most teachers/school officials will work with parents when the kids are going to be out even for unexcused absences if you tell them beforehand. They don't want the kids to fall behind.

The way I see it, the unexcused absence deal is to flag kids that may be in trouble. How often do we hear about abused or murdered kids that haven't been in school in weeks or months? Don't we wonder why the authorities weren't notified or no one at the school looked further into all of the absences?

I know that this is the extreme and not at all what Medussa is talking about. Just my $.02
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Old 05-04-2007, 11:32 AM   #25
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My experience has been that most teachers/school officials will work with parents when the kids are going to be out even for unexcused absences if you tell them beforehand. They don't want the kids to fall behind.

The way I see it, the unexcused absence deal is to flag kids that may be in trouble. How often do we hear about abused or murdered kids that haven't been in school in weeks or months? Don't we wonder why the authorities weren't notified or no one at the school looked further into all of the absences?


I know that this is the extreme and not at all what Medussa is talking about. Just my $.02
Very true. Or just kids whose parents don't send them to school. I know parents who don't care if their small children go to school or not. My cousin will keep her kids out of school for weeks just because she doesn't feel like taking them.

But, that being said, if the teacher knows about it beforehand, the child is doing well in school, and has regular attendance, I don't see how it should be a problem.
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Old 05-04-2007, 11:43 AM   #26
 
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Here, the money the school get is directly tied to the number of butts in the seat each day. That is why they are IMHO total freaks about kids not coming to school.

Personally, I don't give a rip. It's my family and we are gonna do it how we do it. Just to add, we are not yet in the school system, that starts in ?Sept.

(vivasmom starts weeping into her hands) LOL
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My experience has been that most teachers/school officials will work with parents when the kids are going to be out even for unexcused absences if you tell them beforehand. They don't want the kids to fall behind.

The way I see it, the unexcused absence deal is to flag kids that may be in trouble. How often do we hear about abused or murdered kids that haven't been in school in weeks or months? Don't we wonder why the authorities weren't notified or no one at the school looked further into all of the absences?

I know that this is the extreme and not at all what Medussa is talking about. Just my $.02
Very true. Or just kids whose parents don't send them to school. I know parents who don't care if their small children go to school or not. My cousin will keep her kids out of school for weeks just because she doesn't feel like taking them.

But, that being said, if the teacher knows about it beforehand, the child is doing well in school, and has regular attendance, I don't see how it should be a problem.
IMO that is abuse and so terrible for the kids.
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Here, the money the school get is directly tied to the number of butts in the seat each day. That is why they are IMHO total freaks about kids not coming to school.

Personally, I don't give a rip. It's my family and we are gonna do it how we do it. Just to add, we are not yet in the school system, that starts in ?Sept.

(vivasmom starts weeping into her hands) LOL
Yeah, that's how I feel- and we ARE in the school system. I understand the reasons behind the attendance policies, but I *hate* the undertone that I'm not equipped to make decisions about my child's education. It's another example of lowest- common- denominator policymaking.

I could go on and on, but I will stop now.

Have fun in Florida, Medussa!
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Here, the money the school get is directly tied to the number of butts in the seat each day. That is why they are IMHO total freaks about kids not coming to school.
This is what I think truly drives these policies.

CurlyCanadian Your post made me laugh.

Thanks, Cosmicfly. I plan to have fun. It's the last trip we're taking for awhile.

Oh and good news. I heard today that the Friday before Memorial Day, is going to be snow day. So, M will only be absent for 4 days.
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Here are the things that are excused in my district: illness, death in the family, court summons, religious holiday. That's it. Family vacations are definitely unexcused. The difference is that parents have to attend meetings for excessive (5 or more) UNexcused absences. Beyond that, they can end up going to court and being fined...or child services might supervise them for truancy deprived/educational neglect.
Attendance is part of adequate yearly progress (AYP). If schools have poor attendance, they won't meet AYP, and this causes problems as far as money and reputation are concerned.
Also, even if the student is a good student, they are missing valuable class time. Even if they can make up the work, they have still missed the discussions, lessons, and activities. I know some parents are good at trying to make up for that, but in my school that rarely happens. Also, I think having good attendance is an important value that a lot of our students are missing. Many of our parents and kids don't value education.
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Wow. An unexcused absence is illegal?

My parents let us stay home whenever we wanted for "mental health days." We never abused it. We all got good grades and two of us were accepted to Ivy League schools.

DJ is only in preschool and they get upset about absences also.
were you in a chicago public school by chance po ?
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