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Old 06-02-2008, 12:19 AM   #1
 
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The other night my neighbor was walking around naked in front of her open window. Bedroom is on ground floor and faces a street in a large city. A peeping-tom (who, according to the rumor in the building, may have been her "friend" at some point) came up to her window and apparently said some crass things to her.

The guy was in the wrong but I think it is stupid of her to think that her behavior is all right. When I heard the story I thought either she is very naive or she wanted to be seen (but not harassed). I hope it does not happen again. No one deserves to be harassed even when she does something stupid.
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The other night my neighbor was walking around naked in front of her open window. Bedroom is on ground floor and faces a street in a large city. A peeping-tom (who, according to the rumor in the building, may have been her "friend" at some point) came up to her window and apparently said some crass things to her.

The guy was in the wrong but I think it is stupid of her to think that her behavior is all right. When I heard the story I thought either she is very naive or she wanted to be seen (but not harassed). I hope it does not happen again. No one deserves to be harassed even when she does something stupid.

She wanted to be seen. She's very foolish...any crazy person could see her and get some crazy ideas...
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This story strikes me as having a lot of information missing and possibly being subject to the "telephone operator" principle. From a couple of words in the description, it seems apparent that you did not witness it occur.
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This story strikes me as having a lot of information missing and possibly being subject to the "telephone operator" principle. From a couple of words in the description, it seems apparent that you did not witness it occur.
Ummm....no.

Yeah, a lot of the specifics *are* missing because this is a public board. If she, or someone who knows her, stumbles across this post, I would not want all the details out there. It would be embarrassing. I only posted it to comment to see if I am the only one who thought this was stupid.

But, yeah, she was naked in front of an open window. That is never cool when you face a busy street unless you want to invite a passerby to she you. I just hopes it stops there and does not invite creepies to hang around our apartment complex. The last thing we need is to have a guy lurking in the bushes in front of our building at odd hours of the night. Her stupidity could have compromised the building's safety.
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The other night my neighbor was walking around naked in front of her open window. Bedroom is on ground floor and faces a street in a large city. A peeping-tom (who, according to the rumor in the building, may have been her "friend" at some point) came up to her window and apparently said some crass things to her.

The guy was in the wrong but I think it is stupid of her to think that her behavior is all right. When I heard the story I thought either she is very naive or she wanted to be seen (but not harassed). I hope it does not happen again. No one deserves to be harassed even when she does something stupid.
1. Did she know her blinds were open? Sometimes I accidentally forget that mine are open, and will walk through the livingroom not fully dressed.

2. Was she really prancing around naked, or did she just happen to walk through the room quickly? Sometimes even when I know the blinds are open, I'll think I can just sneek by and grab something and no one will notice.

3. When you say "peeping tom" I assume you mean a man who trolls around buildings looking in windows trying to get a glimpse of a naked woman. What makes you think this guy was "peeping tom" and not some guy who just happened to be walking by and see her in her window?

4. What makes you think that she thinks her behavior is alright?

5. Really, what's not alright about her behavior?
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Is your main concern that she might be inviting unwelcome peepers or visitors into the apartment complex?

I didn't think that peepers really talked to the people they were spying on...I am not a peeper, though, so I don't know. If she's an exhibitionist, I am assuming that she knows it might attract unwelcome attention. Attention no less, but unwelcome attention sometimes.
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1. Did she know her blinds were open? Sometimes I accidentally forget that mine are open, and will walk through the livingroom not fully dressed.

2. Was she really prancing around naked, or did she just happen to walk through the room quickly? Sometimes even when I know the blinds are open, I'll think I can just sneek by and grab something and no one will notice.

3. When you say "peeping tom" I assume you mean a man who trolls around buildings looking in windows trying to get a glimpse of a naked woman. What makes you think this guy was "peeping tom" and not some guy who just happened to be walking by and see her in her window?

4. What makes you think that she thinks her behavior is alright?

5. Really, what's not alright about her behavior?
Yes to the first. I do not know for the second but she said she was sitting. Her words for the third. Four, I have no idea. Last, I only think it is not all right (stupid) an open window makes your private place a visual public space.


And yes, M2LR, that is my (and many of the women in the building) main concern. What if one of us stumbled on this guy while coming home? Or what if one of us, male or female, confronted him? I do not want creepy men hanging around because he might get a close-up of the naked girl. But, you cannot control the behavior of your neighbors. I just hope she keeps her curtains closed and the guy does not come back.
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1. Did she know her blinds were open? Sometimes I accidentally forget that mine are open, and will walk through the livingroom not fully dressed.

2. Was she really prancing around naked, or did she just happen to walk through the room quickly? Sometimes even when I know the blinds are open, I'll think I can just sneek by and grab something and no one will notice.

3. When you say "peeping tom" I assume you mean a man who trolls around buildings looking in windows trying to get a glimpse of a naked woman. What makes you think this guy was "peeping tom" and not some guy who just happened to be walking by and see her in her window?

4. What makes you think that she thinks her behavior is alright?

5. Really, what's not alright about her behavior?
Yes to the first. I do not know for the second but she said she was sitting. Her words for the third. Four, I have no idea. Last, I only think it is not all right (stupid) an open window makes your private place a visual public space.


And yes, M2LR, that is my (and many of the women in the building) main concern. What if one of us stumbled on this guy while coming home? Or what if one of us, male or female, confronted him? I do not want creepy men hanging around because he might get a close-up of the naked girl. But, you cannot control the behavior of your neighbors. I just hope she keeps her curtains closed and the guy does not come back.
Just remember to keep yourself safe, don't walk around when it's dark out, keep doors locked, etc. That's all you can really do.
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I think it's a stupid thing to do. You never know who is going to see you and what ideas they're going to get. Not only a fear of creepy people hanging about to watch you (and possibly trying to break in), but what if your boss walks by? "Oh, I think this is So-and-So's building... OH MY!"

I would guess she's an exhibitionist if she was sitting there naked even though she knew the blinds were open. If the "peeping tom" was a former "friend" of hers, maybe it was intentional to spite/entice/whatever him?
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In my experience, one does not need to do something as obvious to get a peeping tom. It doesn't even matter if your naked. All it takes is a small crack in your curtain. If they want to, they will find a way.
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The other night my neighbor was walking around naked in front of her open window. Bedroom is on ground floor and faces a street in a large city. A peeping-tom (who, according to the rumor in the building, may have been her "friend" at some point) came up to her window and apparently said some crass things to her.
Maybe they were playing some sort of "game"?
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That's so stupid. I don't get exhibitionists. Last summer one of the neighbors came out to play with her kid at the playground by our apartment(our back door opens on to the playground and the window by our dinner table overlooks the playground) in a mini skirt and no panties. Then proceed to lay on the ground knees bent so everyone got a full view of her lady bidness. Klassy.
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The other night my neighbor was walking around naked in front of her open window. Bedroom is on ground floor and faces a street in a large city. A peeping-tom (who, according to the rumor in the building, may have been her "friend" at some point) came up to her window and apparently said some crass things to her.

The guy was in the wrong but I think it is stupid of her to think that her behavior is all right. When I heard the story I thought either she is very naive or she wanted to be seen (but not harassed). I hope it does not happen again. No one deserves to be harassed even when she does something stupid.
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1. Did she know her blinds were open? Sometimes I accidentally forget that mine are open, and will walk through the livingroom not fully dressed.

2. Was she really prancing around naked, or did she just happen to walk through the room quickly? Sometimes even when I know the blinds are open, I'll think I can just sneek by and grab something and no one will notice.

3. When you say "peeping tom" I assume you mean a man who trolls around buildings looking in windows trying to get a glimpse of a naked woman. What makes you think this guy was "peeping tom" and not some guy who just happened to be walking by and see her in her window?

4. What makes you think that she thinks her behavior is alright?

5. Really, what's not alright about her behavior?
Yes to the first. I do not know for the second but she said she was sitting. Her words for the third. Four, I have no idea. Last, I only think it is not all right (stupid) an open window makes your private place a visual public space.


And yes, M2LR, that is my (and many of the women in the building) main concern. What if one of us stumbled on this guy while coming home? Or what if one of us, male or female, confronted him? I do not want creepy men hanging around because he might get a close-up of the naked girl. But, you cannot control the behavior of your neighbors. I just hope she keeps her curtains closed and the guy does not come back.
I'm confused. Is this topic because you're worried about your safety due to stupid actions of a fellow tenant, or because you think the guy shouldn't have shamed her?
Was she walking around or sitting? You said 2 different things. Did you hear the man, or did she tell you what he said?

I think she's asking for a world of trouble by parading herself like that. Sure, it's her right, but by every action has a consequence, good and/or bad. If one chooses to act in a way out of the norm, one must be prepared for backlash. If she didn't want crass comments, then keep the clothes on with windows open, or clothes off with shades closed.
If you see the man lurking about, call the police. Check your lease to see if there's anything about creating an unsafe living area, and check with the landlord to find out if there's anything that can be done to encourage her to keep the curtains closed. If necessary, you always have the option to just talk to her first, in a reasonable manner, and inform her of your concern for safety.
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That's so stupid. I don't get exhibitionists. Last summer one of the neighbors came out to play with her kid at the playground by our apartment(our back door opens on to the playground and the window by our dinner table overlooks the playground) in a mini skirt and no panties. Then proceed to lay on the ground knees bent so everyone got a full view of her lady bidness. Klassy.
This reminds me of a cousin of mine, Sarah. Her mother (my aunt) had a similar level of 'klassiness'. She'd invite male colleagues from her school (where she worked as a social worker) over for family dinners and get-togethers and not wear appropriate clothing.

As a child, Sarah never verbally complained, but it was obvious she was mortified: whenever she wore dresses or skirts she always wore them with a pair of shorts underneath, she often wore baggy, gender-neutral clothing, in effect she overcompensated for her mother by the way she dressed herself.

It was just sad.

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I'm confused. Is this topic because you're worried about your safety due to stupid actions of a fellow tenant, or because you think the guy shouldn't have shamed her?
Was she walking around or sitting? You said 2 different things. Did you hear the man, or did she tell you what he said?

I think she's asking for a world of trouble by parading herself like that. Sure, it's her right, but by every action has a consequence, good and/or bad. If one chooses to act in a way out of the norm, one must be prepared for backlash. If she didn't want crass comments, then keep the clothes on with windows open, or clothes off with shades closed.
If you see the man lurking about, call the police. Check your lease to see if there's anything about creating an unsafe living area, and check with the landlord to find out if there's anything that can be done to encourage her to keep the curtains closed. If necessary, you always have the option to just talk to her first, in a reasonable manner, and inform her of your concern for safety.
I do not live in her flat and she did not say what he said. She said it was crass and I left it at that. One can only imagine what he would have said. Neighbors were woken.Police were called. Maybe this is enough of a deterrent for both of them.

She said she was sitting when it happened by not fully dressed (whatever that means) when she opened the curtain.

I started the thread for many reasons: vent because a lot more happened, which I am not sharing, thinking about my safety, to see if any one else thinks this is stupid, etc.

Why would anyone want someone to be harassed? It is up to her to protect herself but if someone hurts her it is all the fault of that person. She was stupid but what he did is criminal in this city.

Anyway, I think there is more to this story about her relationship with the person who talked to her, which could create an unsafe situation for all of us.

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Ewww. Very klassy.
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Anyway, I think there is more to this story about her relationship with the person who talked to her, which could create an unsafe situation for all of us.
That is part of what I meant in my first reply. I have no opinion on this, because it's impossible to have anything but the most vaguely informed one based on the information given. There is clearly so much of the story missing that I don't jump to conclusions about any of it.
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This story strikes me as having a lot of information missing and possibly being subject to the "telephone operator" principle. From a couple of words in the description, it seems apparent that you did not witness it occur.
Ummm....no.

Yeah, a lot of the specifics *are* missing because this is a public board. If she, or someone who knows her, stumbles across this post, I would not want all the details out there. It would be embarrassing.

I'm confused as well.

Here you say you witnessed it, later in the thread you report that the woman said she was sitting as though her version of the events is all you have to go on. In order to witness something, you have to see it.



As far as the concerns you raise ... it seems to me that this is just part of living in a city or town. I mean, there are crazies everywhere. Watch out for yourself, but obviously you can't account for everything, and you'd drive yourself crazy if you tried.
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This is confusing to me. 1st she is naked walking around in front of her open blinds then she is sitting half dressed. The guy who came up to her window may be someone she knows. Does he live at the apartment complex? Why would you feel that you aren't safe if it is someone she knows & he is at her window. If you want our opinions then we really need to know the whole story.
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Old 06-03-2008, 11:36 AM   #20
 
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you know, in certain neighborhoods i notice a LOT of people having their windows wide open, especially at night!! now during the day is one thing, but sometimes i wonder if people are exhibitionists lol.

iara, i see you know about klass starting with a k lol
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