damn hillary!

It was an inspiring speech, but I'm not sure she said enough to support Obama. I felt she could have been more specific in saying why Obama is the most qualified candidate...especially given her attacks during the primary on specifically why she didn't think he was the most qualified candidate at that time. She did a very good job of reminding Democratic voters that they should be in it for the good of the party, and the country, and not just for her. And I also think she was great at taking jabs at McCain and stating why he should not be in office.

I don't know, I just think her speech lacked sincerity. I don't feel it will be enough to convince her die-hard supporters/PUMA folks to vote for Obama come November.
Originally Posted by preciousjewel76
I hear what you were saying but do you think she'd have been believable if she did this. Everyone knows they are not "friends" and don't have love for each other. We need to get over that. She did what she needed to do last nite.


On another note -Hillary looked good. I do wish she'd wear something other than pant suits. Not relevant, I know. AND Chelsea has turned into a lovely girl. I loved her hair (yes, I loved it straight -I'm ducking from the flying pots and pans now)...

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It was an inspiring speech, but I'm not sure she said enough to support Obama. I felt she could have been more specific in saying why Obama is the most qualified candidate...especially given her attacks during the primary on specifically why she didn't think he was the most qualified candidate at that time. She did a very good job of reminding Democratic voters that they should be in it for the good of the party, and the country, and not just for her. And I also think she was great at taking jabs at McCain and stating why he should not be in office.

I don't know, I just think her speech lacked sincerity. I don't feel it will be enough to convince her die-hard supporters/PUMA folks to vote for Obama come November.
Originally Posted by preciousjewel76
I hear what you were saying but do you think she'd have been believable if she did this. Everyone knows they are not "friends" and don't have love for each other. We need to get over that. She did what she needed to do last nite.


On another note -Hillary looked good. I do wish she'd wear something other than pant suits. Not relevant, I know. AND Chelsea has turned into a lovely girl. I loved her hair (yes, I loved it straight -I'm ducking from the flying pots and pans now)...
Originally Posted by wavezncurlz
No, I agree with you - that wouldn't have been very believable. Especially since she will likely run again in 4 years. Maybe my expectations were too high, LOL. But my concern is that the folks who were going to vote for McCain because they were upset that Hillary lost weren't given a good reason to vote for Obama last night. I guess we'll just have to wait and see.

I also agree that Hillary looked radiant & refreshed last night. I think the break has done wonderful things for her. Both she and Obama were looking worn out at the end of the primary.
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I think Bill really answered the WHY OBAMA question last night. At least in my mind he did.

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speaking of great speeches....wasn't John Kerry great last night too!
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I need to find his on Youtube. I finally gave in and had to go make that dang PB and banana sammich they've been talking about in the other thread.

I watched Clinton's and Joe Biden's. I need to read up on him. He seems like a very nice man, but honestly I've never paid attention to him. Clinton rocked, like always. I noticed he worded his endorsement carefully though. He said Barack Obama is the right MAN for this job. Not the right person or candidate but man. He's no dummy.
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frau i LOVE your avatar. your hair is getting long!! care to post your regimine, or maybe just pm me
Originally Posted by luvmylocs
lol! you mean you need to send me your regimen! your locs were so long and today your hair looks fantastic! much better than mine ever looked at that length.

sadly, my hair is always at the trial and error stage.
as soon as i finally "get it" i move on to the next phase.
when my hair was short i would wash it everyday. it didn't matter what product i used it grew quickly and healthy. i didn't even moisturize my hair so it was always kind of dry and parched looking, lol.

now that it's longer i only wash once a week.
i use suave clarifying or dr. bonners shampoo.
i use pantene relaxed and natural conditioner and sometimes the pantene conditioning mask that comes in the jar.
when i can afford it (and when my daughter doesn't take them with her to college) i'll keep the following on hand:
OYIN
whipped butter
honey hemp conditioner
grand poo bar shampoo
whipped shea butter
brown sugar pomade
link

QHEMET
olive cream conditioning detangler
alma and olive heavy cream
link

i don't have any of these products now and have been product free for the last 3 months (no $$$ )

i trim my hair once or twice a year.

feel free to give me your regimen!
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I am a political junkie - both by hobby and by soon-to-be profession - so I watched almost all of the convention last night. I watched the role call early in the night and was so moved when Hillary Clinton spoke for the New York delegation and closed the voting. Just watching the crowd erupt and seeing so many people crying was such a big deal for me. I'm a very strong Democrat and it made me really proud of my party.

I was also really impressed with Bill Clinton's speech - he definitely covered the "he's ready for the job" aspect that Hillary Clinton left out.

Joe Biden made me cry - I don't know a whole lot about him, but what I do know makes me like him a lot. I loved seeing his family on the stage at the end - they remind me of my big, Irish-Catholic family - and then having Barack come out as a surprise was very cool (I wish MSNBC hadn't spoiled the surprise, though).

John Kerry was also really impressive. Where was that fire and strength when he was running for president? I loved how he turned the "flip-flop" thing back on McCain.

A theme that has run through each of these speeches is that Barack Obama will lead the way to a better future. There has been a lot of talk about family/generations and giving our children and grandchildren a better future. There's also been a lot of talk about moving toward the future rather than staying in the past. I think it's really brilliant in its simplicity. How can you argue with, "We need to build a better future?"


After watching all those speeches, I am even more excited for the main event tonight. This is my Super Bowl!
I watched the role call early in the night and was so moved when Hillary Clinton spoke for the New York delegation and closed the voting.
Originally Posted by badgercurls
what?? i missed that but my mother told me about it and you know what? i would've wanted to beat hillary down!

yes, it shows unity and shortened the darn program so that we weren't watching biden speak at 2 am in the morning BUT! what about the delegates from the different states all wanting to get their turn to speak on camera! she ruined it for the states after new york! poor things. it's like you wait 4 years just to have your 15 seconds of fame and she took it all away just like that.

if i was from north dakota or vermont, i'd be mad at mrs. clinton right now.
(lol)
It's not secret which way I lean politically, but Hillary's speech was magnificient. Not magnificent in that I agree with her, but rather in its capacity to inspire and energize the crowd.

I also happen to think it was an "unofficial" kick-off for her 2012 campaign.
Originally Posted by Scarlet
ITA, I'm not a fan of Hillary and would probably never vote for her, but over the last several months I've started to admire her a bit, I even found myself rooting for her a little (dear lord did I just write that?)
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frau i LOVE your avatar. your hair is getting long!! care to post your regimine, or maybe just pm me
Originally Posted by luvmylocs
lol! you mean you need to send me your regimen! your locs were so long and today your hair looks fantastic! much better than mine ever looked at that length.

sadly, my hair is always at the trial and error stage.
as soon as i finally "get it" i move on to the next phase.
when my hair was short i would wash it everyday. it didn't matter what product i used it grew quickly and healthy. i didn't even moisturize my hair so it was always kind of dry and parched looking, lol.

now that it's longer i only wash once a week.
i use suave clarifying or dr. bonners shampoo.
i use pantene relaxed and natural conditioner and sometimes the pantene conditioning mask that comes in the jar.
when i can afford it (and when my daughter doesn't take them with her to college) i'll keep the following on hand:
OYIN
whipped butter
honey hemp conditioner
grand poo bar shampoo
whipped shea butter
brown sugar pomade
link

QHEMET
olive cream conditioning detangler
alma and olive heavy cream
link

i don't have any of these products now and have been product free for the last 3 months (no $$$ )

i trim my hair once or twice a year.

feel free to give me your regimen!
(this is my thread and i can guano it if i want to!)
Originally Posted by frau
hey girl,

i hadn't been back in this thread....thanks for sharing your regimine!

mine is super simple. i deep condition once a week. every day i wet my hair in the shower (not saturate) and smoosh in some type of leave in, afro detangler or karen's body beautiful or giovanni direct. that's it. my hair hasn't been getting a lot of attention. i trim according to the lunar charts probably 3 times a year. i like to massage my scalp. i use castor oil/jojoba for a scalp massage.
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