Sarah Palin's speech

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But shouldn't she compare herself to Biden, not Obama?
Originally Posted by Myradella3
That's what I keep wondering, but some of her supporters do the same thing and totally ignore how she matches up to Biden.

As far as her taking shots at Obama... Biden did the same to McCain during his speech. I wish they'd all just focus on explaining exactly why they feel they would be a better choice to run the country. I swear, sometimes it's like watching a group of elementary school children fighting. I wouldn't be surprised if one of them busted out with, "Yeah? Well... you're just a stupidhead!"
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i think she did a good job.
i like the way she looks too.
this is interesting...

http://www.newyorker.com/talk/2008/0...urevitch?yrail
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I'm afraid I had to change the channel before she finished. I couldn't listen to her anymore. Her voice is grating and her speech had no substance. I turned it on with an open mind, but there's no way I can vote for McCain with her as his running mate.
I think she came across as strong and confident.

I'm sure she is comparing her experience with Obama's instead of Biden's because everyone keeps saying she has no experience to run the country if something were to happen to McCain. She is simply addressing that question.

Of course she had speech writers helping her. . . you don't think Obama didn't? I listened to her more to see how she conveyed herself giving the speech. She is definitely no shrinking violet.
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I thought her speech was delivered very well - she's articulate and a fighter. I especially liked her "pitbull with lipstick" line and her bit about offering support for families with special needs kids. BUT since my two biggest concerns happen to be women's right to choose and the environment, there's no possible way I would ever support her. I thought McCain might be palatable, but with this VP choice, he's swinging too far to the right for me. Go Obama!
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I'm afraid I had to change the channel before she finished. I couldn't listen to her anymore. Her voice is grating and her speech had no substance. I turned it on with an open mind, but there's no way I can vote for McCain with her as his running mate.
This is exactly how I felt, although I made it through the whole speech. I tried to listen with an open mind, despite the fact that she stands for everything I'm against, but I was so incredibly uncomfortable with her speech. I'm really surprised, actually, that so many people think it was successful. It lacked substance. It was not serious (which, of course, I realize was a rhetorical strategy, using humor to get people on her side and deflect from the issues). It was offensive in its snarky and ignorant attacks on Obama. Also, I was really surprised that she spent half the speech talking about her family considering all of the scandal that's come out in the past few days. I think she should give up on the "family values" angle. I did, however, think the stuff about her oldest son was effective. I'm sure a lot of people listening thought it was refreshing to hear someone supporting the war who has a child fighting there.
I think she came across as strong and confident.

I'm sure she is comparing her experience with Obama's instead of Biden's because everyone keeps saying she has no experience to run the country if something were to happen to McCain. She is simply addressing that question.

Of course she had speech writers helping her. . . you don't think Obama didn't? I listened to her more to see how she conveyed herself giving the speech. She is definitely no shrinking violet.
Originally Posted by munchkin
I know she had speech writers, Bush, Obama, Reagan, Frist....everyone has them. But there were questions last week about who wrote Obama and Biden's speech so I was just well, making a point.

Since I'm sure the Reps are going to win, I sure hope she's ready and McCain is healthy.
I think she came across as strong and confident.

I'm sure she is comparing her experience with Obama's instead of Biden's because everyone keeps saying she has no experience to run the country if something were to happen to McCain. She is simply addressing that question.

Of course she had speech writers helping her. . . you don't think Obama didn't? I listened to her more to see how she conveyed herself giving the speech. She is definitely no shrinking violet.
Originally Posted by munchkin
I know she had speech writers, Bush, Obama, Reagan, Frist....everyone has them. But there were questions last week about who wrote Obama and Biden's speech so I was just well, making a point.

Since I'm sure the Reps are going to win, I sure hope she's ready and McCain is healthy.
Originally Posted by Myradella3
Republican strategists would disagree with your assessement:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CrG8w4bb3kg
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I wish her speech had outlined more of her own ideas as to what she plans on doing about making health care affordable, cleaning up the environment, fixing the economy, helping the poor, fixing America's reputation around the world, etc.
As far as her taking shots at Obama... Biden did the same to McCain during his speech. I wish they'd all just focus on explaining exactly why they feel they would be a better choice to run the country. I swear, sometimes it's like watching a group of elementary school children fighting. I wouldn't be surprised if one of them busted out with, "Yeah? Well... you're just a stupidhead!"
Originally Posted by utopiastars
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how is she a great woman? she is in a powerful position, and what has she DONE for women? not much, if at all.
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how is she a great woman? she is in a powerful position, and what has she DONE for women? not much, if at all.
Originally Posted by stefathena


She hasn't done anything FOR women, and, frankly, I'm scared about what she'll do TO women. This woman is all about her own power, not about any other woman's power. Look what she did to her own daughter...shamed her in front of an entire country, the entire world. That's an example of what she has in store for the rest of womankind.
I really like her. I liked her speech. She's very personable, just as Obama is.
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I found the overall tone of her speech to be incredibly snarky and sarcastic. I truly approached listening to her with an open mind, but I was left with a bad taste in my mouth.
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how is she a great woman? she is in a powerful position, and what has she DONE for women? not much, if at all.
Originally Posted by stefathena


She hasn't done anything FOR women, and, frankly, I'm scared about what she'll do TO women. This woman is all about her own power, not about any other woman's power. Look what she did to her own daughter...shamed her in front of an entire country, the entire world. That's an example of what she has in store for the rest of womankind.
Originally Posted by RedCatWaves
Aside from the abortion issue, which we obviously don't all agree on, what else are you talking about? Isn't what she's done or will do for everyone, also for women because we make up at least half of the population? And how come no one complains about what the male candidates are or aren't doing for men?

And I fail to see how she shamed her daughter. Her daughter got pregnant - her mom had nothing to do with that - and the story was going to come out anyway. I thought the statement I read from Palin about it was very loving and non-judgmental.
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Aside from the abortion issue, which we obviously don't all agree on, what else are you talking about? Isn't what she's done or will do for everyone, also for women because we make up at least half of the population? And how come no one complains about what the male candidates are or aren't doing for men?
Originally Posted by PixieCurl
This is where I take this way off the original track....

One of the problems is, men (specifically white men) have the most opportunities right now. I've posted at length about my observations about the Good Ol' Boys network - and how in my experiences rather than being sinister, it's a matter of helping out, working with, and promoting those with whom those in power are most comfortable. And for white men, that is more often going to be fellow white men than someone who looks different. It's not intentional racism at all, but a part of that institutional racism people mention. So if you do something to help minorities or women, you are giving them more opportunities - which means white men have to share those opportunities. In effect, it then appears you are hurting white men. You're not truly doing that - you're just giving them competition.

Women still make FAR less than their male counterparts for the same job, same experience. Minorities as well. There are still many more men able to get viagra on their health insurance than women able to get birth control pills. There are still many women who don't understand their own bodies, who feel shame if they enjoy sex (married or not), who get pregnant not because they want to, but because they are not knowledgeable enough about their cycles to understand when they are most fertile. So far, Governor Palin gives the impression she has no desire to see equal pay enforced. Along with her opposition to hate crime legislation, she gives the impression she would prefer nothing to help ensure equal pay as well. And she is against sex education in schools. While I don't have a problem with someone being against being taught about actual sex in school, I do have a problem with someone being against teaching young women about their bodies and their cycles. Even a woman who waits until marriage to have sex and never uses birth control deserves to understand what is happening as she hits puberty, menopause, what her fertility is, and what's happening while pregnant. In *my* sex education classes, those were the types of things we learned. Not how to be un-Christian or something. We actually were recommended to wait until marriage, as we were taught there are emotional repercussions, and possible consequences from having sex - best handled with a committed partner.

I do believe that the previously mentioned things make Sarah Palin a negative influence for women. At the same time, having a mother of a young child running for VP has made me adjust how I look at women in some ways. I wanted to be disgusted with that, then had to admit if it were a man with a 4 month old, I would not feel the same way. So she IS making us overturn some preconceptions. Some of us, at least. I find that a positive about her candidacy.

I feel as if her anti-hate crime legislation stance is in stark contrast to Biden, who authored the Violence Against Women legislation, and who encourages education of women about their bodies. While he can't make us get used to the image of a woman running for a high office, I believe that Biden has already done more for women than Sarah Palin. And it's interesting to me to see that stark contrast in his actions and her stated beliefs (since we haven't seen her in the national spotlight enough to truly see her actions.)
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I really like her. I liked her speech. She's very personable, just as Obama is.
Originally Posted by 2happy
I agree
I think she came across as strong and confident.

I'm sure she is comparing her experience with Obama's instead of Biden's because everyone keeps saying she has no experience to run the country if something were to happen to McCain. She is simply addressing that question.

Of course she had speech writers helping her. . . you don't think Obama didn't? I listened to her more to see how she conveyed herself giving the speech. She is definitely no shrinking violet.
Originally Posted by munchkin
I know she had speech writers, Bush, Obama, Reagan, Frist....everyone has them. But there were questions last week about who wrote Obama and Biden's speech so I was just well, making a point.

Since I'm sure the Reps are going to win, I sure hope she's ready and McCain is healthy.
Originally Posted by Myradella3
http://www.redstate.com/diaries/reds...er-speech-bec/
BTW I thought her speech was great last night. She sounded great, she was confident and she rocked the convention.

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