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Old 09-22-2008, 08:26 PM   #1
 
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I have a 2002 Chevy Cavalier. I am trying to make it last until i am done with all my college endeavors and then buy myself a new Honda Civic. I have had issues with a rotating noise for years and numerous garages have replaced the brakes, machined the rotors, replaced the rotors, replaced the tires, had a front end alignment and the noise is still there. It has gotten progressively worse in the last month. It is a rotating, friction noise like something is getting caught and is sliding against something else while driving. It almost sounds like a flat tire going around and around. The car also shimmies a bit. I took it into the garage today and they replaced the left wheel hub assembly and bearing. The car was fine for awhile but then started making the rotating friction noise just like before. Anyone else have similar issues with a Cavalier or another compact car? I am taking it back to the same garage in the morning because they need to find out what is really wrong. I didn't spend 300 dollars to get minimal results.
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Does the noise happen all the time when the car is on (something to do with the engine) or is it only when the car is moving (something to do with the suspension/etc.)?

SO and I think it's something to do with a bearing, but you said that you just had one replaced. A belt could make a rubbery rotating kind of noise, but those usually squeak when they're unhappy.

As for the shimmy, my car does that between specific mph's; I write it off as a tick in the transmission or bad alignment.
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My car made a weird scratchy rotating noise. It was a ball bearing. The top and bottom. I had it replaced, and then two weeks later, the other side went. It's super annoying. Hope you figure out what it is soon!
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I don't have any suggestions, but just wanted to give you support.
I hate dealing with garages that think women are idiots. I've been treated poorly by places before and have taken my business elsewhere, but it still burns me. I'm the one who drives my van, I'm the one who can describe the problem, etc, yet they only listen to my husband [who can be more clueless than I but apparently due to anatomy must know more]. Fortunately I found a garage that listens to me and respects me and never talks down to me.
I really hope this place finds the problem for you and gets it solved.
There are supposed to be websites that expose problems with cars but I don't remember the names. They also list unadvertised recalls on vehicles, etc.
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Does the noise happen all the time when the car is on (something to do with the engine) or is it only when the car is moving (something to do with the suspension/etc.)?

SO and I think it's something to do with a bearing, but you said that you just had one replaced. A belt could make a rubbery rotating kind of noise, but those usually squeak when they're unhappy.

As for the shimmy, my car does that between specific mph's; I write it off as a tick in the transmission or bad alignment.
The noise happens when the tire is rotating, i can also feel the vibration of the friction with my foot when i press on the gas or brake. The faster i go the louder the rotating noise is, so it has something to do with the general area of the tire, brake, axle, bearing. Several garages have dicked me around about it and i am just thinking about taking it to a Chevy dealer. If someone tries to replace my brakes or machine my rotors again i am going to scream. This has been done four times in the last two years by different garages because they think it is the cause of the noise. Maybe this is just a sign to start looking at new cars or at least a really good excuse too!!!! The SO wants a new car first but his 98 Ford S10 runs without any difficulty.

Thanks for your support everyone!!!!!
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I don't have any suggestions, but just wanted to give you support.
I hate dealing with garages that think women are idiots. I've been treated poorly by places before and have taken my business elsewhere, but it still burns me. I'm the one who drives my van, I'm the one who can describe the problem, etc, yet they only listen to my husband [who can be more clueless than I but apparently due to anatomy must know more]. Fortunately I found a garage that listens to me and respects me and never talks down to me.
I really hope this place finds the problem for you and gets it solved.
There are supposed to be websites that expose problems with cars but I don't remember the names. They also list unadvertised recalls on vehicles, etc.
I get this too.... In fact last year my brakes were wearing thin and really needed replaced. I always know that telltale clicking noise. I took it to Scott's Tire and Auto to get new tires and have them look at the brakes. They replaced my tires but told me the brakes had another 10,000 on them and that the particular brand i had was always loud. I told my SO this when he got home and he looked at my brakes and said even he could tell they needed replaced!!! I took it to another garage that replaced the brakes and gave me the old ones in a box. My So took the old brakes to Scott's Tire and asked them why their experienced mechanics missed the fact that there was no brake pad left on one and said there was 10,000 miles left on crappy brakes. He turned them into the Better Business Bureau. The SO is at work during the day so his buddy is coming with me tomorrow to help get this issue taken care of.
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DH says probably bad axle or caliper. He says he may be wrong, but from the description and what has already been done that's his best guess.

He said if it's going through brakes fast it's most likely the caliper is frozen. And that in his experience no brake pads last for 10,000 miles. He's worked 10 years as a mechanic for a dealership that does also does rentals and no brake pads have ever lasted that long, and they've tried every brand.
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DH says probably bad axle or caliper. He says he may be wrong, but from the description and what has already been done that's his best guess.

He said if it's going through brakes fast it's most likely the caliper is frozen. And that in his experience no brake pads last for 10,000 miles. He's worked 10 years as a mechanic for a dealership that does also does rentals and no brake pads have ever lasted that long, and they've tried every brand.
Thanks!!! Does he think i should take it to a Chevy dealership? Everyone else seems to be jerking me around. I have been to private garages and chain garages with no luck.
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DH says probably bad axle or caliper. He says he may be wrong, but from the description and what has already been done that's his best guess.

He said if it's going through brakes fast it's most likely the caliper is frozen. And that in his experience no brake pads last for 10,000 miles. He's worked 10 years as a mechanic for a dealership that does also does rentals and no brake pads have ever lasted that long, and they've tried every brand.
Thanks!!! Does he think i should take it to a Chevy dealership? Everyone else seems to be jerking me around. I have been to private garages and chain garages with no luck.
In his experience dealerships rip people off the most. But that might be a regional thing. If your running out of places, I might give it a shot.

Before I met him, I used to get jerked off by mechanics all the time. I can tell you my trick I picked up.

First of all get yourself the mechanical book at a auto-parts store or library. It has trouble shooting in it, so you can have a general idea of what is wrong. Then I would take it to several places have them look at it. Compare shop even with diagnosing the problem. It's not unusual to get several different answers. And I would go with the person who's guess was closest to mine, or if several of them had the same answer the cheapest. And ALWAYS buy your own parts. Part stores frequently pay off mechanics to buy their parts exclusively and they aren't always the best price or quality.

But towards the end, I never let other people work on my car. They all kept messing it up. Then one day I realized I was perfectly qualified to **** my own car for a lot cheaper. You'd be surprised how many simple things shops will charge you an arm and a leg for.

Good luck finding a good mechanic, they are a rare jewel nowadays it seems. That's why I married mine
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DH says probably bad axle or caliper. He says he may be wrong, but from the description and what has already been done that's his best guess.

He said if it's going through brakes fast it's most likely the caliper is frozen. And that in his experience no brake pads last for 10,000 miles. He's worked 10 years as a mechanic for a dealership that does also does rentals and no brake pads have ever lasted that long, and they've tried every brand.
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Be careful b/c if that sucker freezes up your tire will freeze. I would not drive it. I know better said than done tho! g/l
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Could be the wheel bearings or tie rods. I've been replacing these on my car for the last year (various ones as various times). Right now it's the right front wheel bearing; when I hit about 45-50 mph it starts to have bad humming grinding noise and gets worse if I turn on a curve going right.

Each one of these trips is anywhere from $350-600 for my car.
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I was thinking of the calipers since you didn't mention them in all of the breakwork you had done.
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I would guess the calipers too.

My ball joints are bad and they squeak, not grind. A bearing might grind/whine but not usually when it's moving very fast and both ball joints and bearings clunk when you turn. Or that's been my experience.

You can do what I do: take it to the dealership for the diagnositc. It's usually not more than $90 (mine is $50). They will usually get it right as they are used to dealing with your make and model and year. Price out the work there, then price it out at some other places you trust. If it's not much different, get it done at the dealership, if it is, then get it done at the garage.
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Thanks guys for all your help!!!! I called one of my mechanic friends and he said it sounded like the calipers also but he is too far away (about 16 hours lol ) to check it. I have not heard from the garage since i dropped off the car 4 hours ago and i am getting ready to call them right now!!!
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DH says probably bad axle or caliper. He says he may be wrong, but from the description and what has already been done that's his best guess.

He said if it's going through brakes fast it's most likely the caliper is frozen. And that in his experience no brake pads last for 10,000 miles. He's worked 10 years as a mechanic for a dealership that does also does rentals and no brake pads have ever lasted that long, and they've tried every brand.
Thanks!!! Does he think i should take it to a Chevy dealership? Everyone else seems to be jerking me around. I have been to private garages and chain garages with no luck.
In his experience dealerships rip people off the most. But that might be a regional thing. If your running out of places, I might give it a shot.

Before I met him, I used to get jerked off by mechanics all the time. I can tell you my trick I picked up.

First of all get yourself the mechanical book at a auto-parts store or library. It has trouble shooting in it, so you can have a general idea of what is wrong. Then I would take it to several places have them look at it. Compare shop even with diagnosing the problem. It's not unusual to get several different answers. And I would go with the person who's guess was closest to mine, or if several of them had the same answer the cheapest. And ALWAYS buy your own parts. Part stores frequently pay off mechanics to buy their parts exclusively and they aren't always the best price or quality.

But towards the end, I never let other people work on my car. They all kept messing it up. Then one day I realized I was perfectly qualified to **** my own car for a lot cheaper. You'd be surprised how many simple things shops will charge you an arm and a leg for.

Good luck finding a good mechanic, they are a rare jewel nowadays it seems. That's why I married mine
LOL, maybe i will have to dump the SO and marry a mechanic. Maybe you should rent your hubby out to the rest of us for car work!!! My hubby works with computers so he fixs the 3 computers in the house when they are broken or need work. He is pretty handy with any electronic equipment. So i guess he is useful for something and i will keep him around. I could always get a mechanic as a side dish, LOL!!! I will look for the book next time I am at the auto parts store!!! Thanks for the advice.
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Dont u hate when u take yur car in to any garage and get screwed cuz yur a women. My uncle, cousins, past bfs, guy friends , guys friends who work in the car world and even my own mom knows alot about cars so i have learn from them. I always make sure i have a good warrenty on every car i own , usually a 5-6 yr warrenty , front to back bumper plus extras, minus wear n tear like brakes , tires etc. ill take my car in to my guy friends if its not covered under warrenty, things like brakes and whatnot i get done by them , less hassle , i trust them , and its so much more cheaper than gettin yur brakes or whatever done at a garage or dealer. When a full inspection is due on my car , i take it to my guy friends and they do it for me but i have learned what to look for if anything needs replaced, plus my mom works in the car industry and any parts i need its cheaper to be able to get thru her since she gets a discount , it helps esp when car parts can be alot these days if u get directly somewhere else. If i have to take it to a garage which is very rare , guys will say one thing whats wrong and ill catch them on it whats right and they look at me like wow shes onto us, we cant screw her lol .
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My Dad and I just replaced my front brakes over the weekend. Parts for pads, rotors and calipers was about $270 for decent parts - no after market stuff. I have a 2003 Grand-Am.
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My boyfriend had a problem very similar to what you are describing, and it was a bad axle.
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My Dad and I just replaced my front brakes over the weekend. Parts for pads, rotors and calipers was about $270 for decent parts - no after market stuff. I have a 2003 Grand-Am.
My husband is doing the front brakes on our 2004 Corolla this weekend for about that price. Wish us luck!
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