Lindsay Lohan calls Obama "First coloured president." - Page 3

buffie · 11-14-2008, 03:40 AM

Actors and Actresses generally live in their own world. I wouldn't lend much credence to anything any of them say least of all Lindsay Lohan!

I think everything needs to be put into the context with which it was said. Is "coloured" offensive? I don't know really. Is it antiquated? Definitely. And that being said then it maybe is offensive.

I'm American but my background is German, Italian and Austrian. I've been called things like Nazi or Dumb Dego or Fascist, heck even "skinny white *****" by ignorant people.

It's all just words. I've got other things going on in my life than to let a few words get under my skin. If things got physical then I'd be worried.

Let someone say what they want but it's up to you how you respond or react. Remember, it's the second person that causes the argument.

Teach your kids the right thing to say and do. And you can only control and change yourself not others.

subbrock · 11-14-2008, 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by buffie

Actors and Actresses generally live in their own world. I wouldn't lend much credence to anything any of them say least of all Lindsay Lohan!

I think everything needs to be put into the context with which it was said. Is "coloured" offensive? I don't know really. Is it antiquated? Definitely. And that being said then it maybe is offensive.

I'm American but my background is German, Italian and Austrian. I've been called things like Nazi or Dumb Dego or Fascist, heck even "skinny white *****" by ignorant people.

It's all just words. I've got other things going on in my life than to let a few words get under my skin. If things got physical then I'd be worried.

Let someone say what they want but it's up to you how you respond or react. Remember, it's the second person that causes the argument.

Teach your kids the right thing to say and do. And you can only control and change yourself not others.

id have to disagree with that. in america we have a history of using words and backing them up with behaviors. when the term "colored" was in use, there was a behavior that followed it up. "colored" people werent allowed the same basic civil rights as whites. so maybe for those of you who would never be classified as colored, i could see why you wouldnt be offended by it. i could see why you would think it was making a comeback. i could see why words wouldnt bother you. someone can use a words, but usually there is no behavior to back it up. you still get to go home and live a happy life. but to many of those who were called colored they were assaulted, harassed, and killed because of it.

Boomygrrl · 11-14-2008, 12:31 PM

That's a little extreme. I don't think Lohan is being intimidating by using the word. I think it's a dated term. It is racist, but again, that doesn't mean the person intended to use it in a racist way.
I think most terms we use are racist: colored, person of color, minority...not necessarily in the intimidating, violent kind of way, but I think it places a whole category of people (or categories of people) into the "other" category. There are whites and then there are coloreds. There are us in the majority and them in the minority. I don't like that way of thinking. They are not equal in terms.

White vs. Colored...aren't we all different colors, from palest of white to darkest of black. Most of us are somewhere in between?

People of Color...there's us transparent white people and then people who actually have color. There's people and then there's people of color. Strange.

Minority...why is a whole group of people labeled by how many of them make up a population? White people are not called the majority group. I'm a majority...it doesn't make sense. Why would I classify someone as a minority? It puts them in the "other" category.

Why is white considered the standard to judge others on?

I am white, and I still find colored, people of color, and minority a little racist. Again, not so much that the person intends to be racist, but it just implies "other-ness" to me.

Black vs. white to me is on more equal footing. Both are colors. I don't like referring to black people as "blacks." Just like white people aren't "whites."

I give a pass to anyone that's elderly that says "colored" because it's probably more benign than words that were used when they were children. I would feel weired calling a black person "colored."

journotraveler · 11-14-2008, 08:32 PM

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FWIW, I'm not crazy about the term "people of color" either, but IMO it sounds better than "minorities", which is often the alternative.

I don't like the term "minorities." At all.

But I do refer to myself as a woman of color. My experience in this world is shaped more by the color of my skin, than by my Hispanic heritage.

You know, I definitely see your point and feel that it's true to a large degree for me as well. Esp. since I am of "ambiguous ethnicity", as some of my friends and I call it. The color of my skin has definitely shaped a lot of my experiences more than my race has.

joining in late here, but i also like "people of color." as an black american, it makes me feel connected to other brown people of varying races/ethnicities. it's inclusive. i get mistaken for a lot of other ethnicities, but no one'll ever mistake me for white. being a "woman of color" has definitely shaped my experiences in the world.

"colored" reminds me of my grandmother. or south africa, where "colored" or "coloured" was an official government classification for mixed race people and asians.

The New Black · 11-19-2008, 09:17 PM

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Along the same lines, does anyone think the NAACP should update the name of the organization?

yes!

but if they change their name, they would have to constantly follow it with "the organization formerly known as the NAACP."

What would they then be? The NAAAAP? LOL! That's just bad no matter how you slice it. Funny puns and all.

The NAABP? The NAAPC? Running out of words here...

FreeCurls · 11-19-2008, 09:40 PM

The term "colored" is NOT coming back. and for any of you all who think it is, let me tell you right now, you're wrong.

bostonwaves · 11-20-2008, 09:35 AM

I didn't think anyone under the age of 30 would even be familiar with the terminology of "colored". It would sound so archaic coming out of a young person's mouth. I just haven't heard that term used in ages.

At a minimum I find it cringe worthy.

Koukla72 · 02-18-2009, 08:11 PM

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wild~hair · 02-18-2009, 09:42 PM

That was stupid on her part.

But since from the context of her comment it's obvious she thinks that Obama being elected was a good thing racially, I'll give it a pass.

ETA: Ha, sorry I just realized that this thread is old and why it was bumped. Sorry.

Nappy_curly_crown · 02-18-2009, 10:31 PM

nm...i see this is old.

empressri · 02-19-2009, 09:42 PM

I see colored and think of the signs they used to have down south to segregate people. colored bathroom, colored water fountain, coloreds not allowed.

yogawaves · 02-20-2009, 04:44 AM

I say colored sometimes, I mean no offense by it. It is the word used when I was growing up. ( I'm 46)
but, I mostly say"african american"

Eilonwy · 02-20-2009, 04:53 AM

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It's all just words.

Those of us who are not profoundly impaired use words, and observe others' use of words, all the time. It's great that you don't let others' words make you feel upset or ashamed. But "just words" doesn't make any sense.