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Old 12-23-2008, 09:42 AM   #61
 
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If I was attending an event that was really important to me like this one is to Amneris, I'd bring my son too (who's just a couple months younger than JJ). I'd wear him and make my husband take turns carrying him, and yes the diaper bag issue would be a pain. It would be an ordeal but I certainly wouldn't leave him at home overnight or for a few days at this age.

ETA: It would have to be a REALLY big event though for me to go to the trouble of attending with my son. My husband and I make a point of avoiding situations that are inappropriate for or unfair to DS. But obviously this event is really important to A and it's worth it for her.
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Old 12-23-2008, 10:06 AM   #62
 
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I do not blame you on that one. I imagine CROWDS, y'know? In my mind, Mardi Gras with sober people.
Bars are staying open either 24 hours or until 4am. Many people are viewing this whole event as a massive party. I hear the city is expecting the type of drunken rioting that occurs when the Red Sox win the world series. I would be particularly careful with a toddler.
Orginally, the city council approved "last call" for 5am....that was until some of the Congressmen/women put in thier two cents. Now, city council has revised it to 4am. Restaurants are allowed to remain open 24-7 from 1/16-1/22 i believe...but they can't serve alcohol after 5am.

Amneris i think its great that you are bringing your son!!! You certainly won't be the only one (my sister is driving up from ATL with my neice who is 3 and my nephew who is 7) and all of my other family and friends that have kids are bringing them as well. I will tell you like I told all of them...I don't want you to kid yourself....they are expecting upwards of 5 million people in DC that weekend. The parade and ceremony should be peaceful enough, but I wouldn't take the kids out until the city clears out a bit...this is def not the time to get all "tourist" and try to see all the monuments and stuff. Go to the ceremony/parade and then go home (or back to your family's house...lol).
That's pretty much the plan at this point.
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Old 12-23-2008, 10:31 AM   #63
 
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And that's so cool journotraveler! My mom took my sister and I to the Berlin wall a few weeks after it opened and we were just over a year old. We have pictures and a big hunk of the wall to "remember" the experience.
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I read an NPR article last night that said they were expecting as many as FOUR MILLION PEOPLE in DC on the 20th. I plan on being one of them.

And, much as I loathe to see people put their kids on leashes at the grocery store or the mall, I can certainly understand that kind of thing for THIS kind of thing.

This is exactly why I am glad I'll be off that day. I work in the city, near the white house, and take the train in every day. I was so happy when I realized that it's a federal holiday.

I don't do crowds and my kids are horrible in such venues. I can't wear either of my kids (they are both too big) and with no access to strollers, I can't see it. Oh well, I must be one of those lame-o's. I will gladly stay home and watch on tv.

That said, go for it Amneris. And feel free to pm me if you have any q's or need anything while you are here.
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Old 12-23-2008, 11:44 AM   #65
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My son is going with a busload from school(college)
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I don't think I'd want to take a 2-year old to something that's going to be that crowded. My nephew is 2 and I don't really see him enjoying that.

But!!! He's totally going to remember it!!!
He's only going to be 18 months, but this is a very important moment for us, and I think it is important that he see it and be a part of it even if it he only remembers it through pictures and video. He is very sociable and likes being out and about so I don't think it will be a problem.
My nephew is sociable and likes being out and about too. What I meant was that the crowd isn't going to be just a crowd. 4 million people. It's going to be hard to even walk much less take care of a toddler. And I really wouldn't want him strapped to my back where I couldn't see him in that kind of crowd.

Anyway that is what I meant when I said I didn't think my nephew would enjoy something like that. Carry on.
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My nephew is sociable and likes being out and about too. What I meant was that the crowd isn't going to be just a crowd. 4 million people. It's going to be hard to even walk much less take care of a toddler. And I really wouldn't want him strapped to my back where I couldn't see him in that kind of crowd.

Anyway that is what I meant when I said I didn't think my nephew would enjoy something like that. Carry on.


I agree. I think the crowd is not going to be merely large, but scary large. Like not enough room for anything but standing in your 18 inch box of personal space. No room even to lay a baby down to change his diaper...providing it's not zero degrees blowing across his bare rump. 4 million people, all trying to use the porta potties.

TV coverage is looking better and better.
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Oh yes, I live in Reston, VA.. I am so there.:
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Old 12-23-2008, 07:13 PM   #69
 
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i took our son to see obama speak when he came to town. he's 10 and has been following the entire election and was really excited and emotional about being at a presidential rally. he understood the magnitude of this election and obama becoming president. and while i know that our son would appreciate being at any part of the inaugural events, he wouldn't have the fortitude to withstand the standing and waiting in the cold and possibly rain.

not trying to talk you out of going. but just understand how many people will be around you. you won't want to put your toddler down, even with a leash. a stroller will be cumbersome when you have people bumping and moving in, all trying to get good views.

also, keep in mind that it won't be easy to just leave when or if he becomes cranky beyond pacifying. you'd have to wade through lots of people just to get to a clearing. and consider the weather too.

i didn't let our daughter go to the election rally because i knew the whole event was going to last about 5 hours. it started at 7 pm, we had to get there by 6, and waited in an insanely long line outside in the rain before the arena opened its doors. and obama arrived close to the end of the rally. we heard speaker upon speaker, and it was even frustrating for me to sit patiently through the whole event on a school/work night. i knew our daughter would have become uncomfortable in those stadium seats within an hour and a half. and no amount of soda and popcorn would have consoled her. and she was 5 at the time. so home was the best place for her.

anyway, i sincerely hope you have a great time and hope your son is cooperative through all the excitement. get good pics!
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With "excellent connections", one can "easily" do just about anything. I think the poster was asking how regular unconnected people can go...
I see. How do regular, unconnected people get tickets?

I would guess regular, unconnected, and not rich people can't....
You think?
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Now that you have Peppy's permission to carry on, Amneris I think it will be fine. If things get hairy for you and JJ, then I'm sure you will do what you need to do to keep the both of you safe. You guys participate in Caribana/Carnival activites. It'll probably be a lot like that, with more people. But Caribana is wild and crazy (crazier than NO Mardi Gras from what I understand).

Take lots of photos and come back and share with us. I wish I could go.
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I guess I'm wondering why many responders assume that Amneris hasn't made an informed choice on attending the inauguration (with or without JJ). I'm sure she's aware of how out of control it could be. Seems like people are trying to talk her out of going. Oh well. Have fun Amneris. I'm sure JJ will appreciate it later when he realizes he was there. it will be very cool for him.

As for me. Am i going? Hell yeah! I've two sisters who live in DC (and I consider myself an honorary resident since I've spent so much time there over the last 20 years) and I told her on election night that I'm booking my room with her for the inauguration. A bunch of my family is planning to go. I was considering going as press but decided against it. I'd rather enjoy this personally.

I went to Clinton/Gore's second inauguration and that was very cool. This is going to be 100 times the size, But I can't wait. I think I'll have to take off the Monday -Wednesday just for the travel, otherwise I'll spend all my time trying to get to and from philly on the rails if I only took the Tuesday.

Anyway, I plan to be like a mailman at this event. Come rain, snow, sleet, hail, hell or highwater, I'm there!

I'd say we curlies should plan a quick meetup, but you know that'd be impossible. Can you imagine?
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LOL, curlyarca and FreeCurls. Yep, I have done Caribana with JJ already and there were lots of babies and little ones there. He loved it and it seemed most of the other small kids did too.

I was thinking a curly meetup would be nice but I don't know if it's logistically possible.
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OK, another question, for those who know the area.

It looks like you can bring strollers on the National Mall in the non-ticketed areas. I don't mind wearing J, but I don't think we can do it for hours unless we HAVE TO, and my uncle says that the goal is to get within two miles of the ceremony and then walk the rest of the way, and to try to be in place by 8am for a 10am ceremony. So a lot of standing and walking... which I expected. I will bring the Ergo but I would like to have a stroller as backup as well. SO.... because I don't know DC well... how well will I be able to see from the National Mall? How far a walk is it from the last possible stop of the metro going from Franconia Springfield? What else is around on the National Mall?

What's the weather like there right now?
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^^^they were saying on CTV News last night that the weather is expected to be around 0C/32F next week. so about the same as a temperate Toronto winter day.
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I'm sooo jealous! My sister is seeing a guy who requested tickets before election and he got 4 so she is going too! I'm sooo jealous! I'm flying in Friday and a little nervous about all the traffic and exhausted from work and dont feel like I've gotten much rest since my last trip..the rush hasn't kicked in yet.
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OK, another question, for those who know the area.

It looks like you can bring strollers on the National Mall in the non-ticketed areas. I don't mind wearing J, but I don't think we can do it for hours unless we HAVE TO, and my uncle says that the goal is to get within two miles of the ceremony and then walk the rest of the way, and to try to be in place by 8am for a 10am ceremony. So a lot of standing and walking... which I expected. I will bring the Ergo but I would like to have a stroller as backup as well. SO.... because I don't know DC well... how well will I be able to see from the National Mall? How far a walk is it from the last possible stop of the metro going from Franconia Springfield? What else is around on the National Mall?

What's the weather like there right now?
Franconia Springfield is the end of the blue line...so if I were you, I would take the blue line all the way to the Federal Triangle stop, or even the Simthsonian stop. That way you are not that far walking from the National Mall, and you are near places where you can stop and sit down if you need to with J. I'll tell you now..its gonna be HELL getting on metro with the crowds and a baby stroller. It MIGHT be easier to take the blue line to Metro Center, switch to the red line, and take it to Union Station which is on the north side of the Capitol. ITs a bit of a longer walk, but the crowds might be lighter that way, espically since I'm sure security is going to be tight over in that area. From Union Station there is a free bus that runs to the national mall also. If you want to get as close as possible (read bigger crowds, but better view) then take the blue line to Federal Center SW...You will be right on the southside of the capital and the mall, and closer to where the swearing in will be.

No matter where you are, honestly, you are not going to see a darn thing unless you have a ticket. The National Mall is a little over a mile long from the steps of the Capital (where the swearing in will take place) to the Washington Monument (which is where Federal Triangle and Metro Center stops will put you off). Total from the steps of the Capital to the Lincoln Memorial (which is the entire National Mall), its almost 2 miles).

From what I've heard, they will have TVs set up all over the place for people to view the ceremony. Also, if you are trying to see Obama, you might have better luck just going to the parade route and getting a spot. They were selling tickets to the parade for $25 for the bleachers on ticketmaster. I plan on getting there early (like 8am) with my camping chairs and setting up shop!
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If I was attending an event that was really important to me like this one is to Amneris, I'd bring my son too (who's just a couple months younger than JJ). I'd wear him and make my husband take turns carrying him, and yes the diaper bag issue would be a pain. It would be an ordeal but I certainly wouldn't leave him at home overnight or for a few days at this age.

ETA: It would have to be a REALLY big event though for me to go to the trouble of attending with my son. My husband and I make a point of avoiding situations that are inappropriate for or unfair to DS. But obviously this event is really important to A and it's worth it for her.
Even though I'm SUPER late, I agree with the bolded. If I had a chance to go with Ty, I might just do it. Pain or not. It's a huge deal. Of course he wouldn't remember it. But ehhh, just something about knowing I was there with my Black, 3-year old son would mean a lot to me. VERY sentimental. I'd probably kick myself in the arse after I'd gotten there, though. lol

I'm still gushing over how our kid's generation (Pix, Am and anyone else with itty bitty kiddos) will be the first to realize that there is nothing "odd" about having a Black president or a woman running for president.

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How/where do you change a diaper in something like that?? Will he nap in the carrier?
Good luck!
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Weather in DC - 13 degrees????


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