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02-17-2009, 07:03 PM
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Join Date: May 2006
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Honor Killing?? (Violence/graphic/domestic abuse)
I think that's an oxymoron. Just call it first-degree murder.
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02-17-2009, 07:17 PM
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They created the TV station to dispel negative stereotypes about Muslims. That didn't work out too well apparently.
I wonder why he and his first wife divorced. Domestic abuse also?
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02-17-2009, 08:11 PM
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I missed that little detail. She's luck to be alive.
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02-18-2009, 01:03 PM
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This is so sad. I read about it yesterday.
Even if this is a domestic abuse case gone horribly wrong, the fact that he's Muslim and trying to dispel Muslim stereotypes will have many people thinking that this is an honor killing.
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02-18-2009, 02:09 PM
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even if it were a so-called honor killing, that should have no merit or consideration here in the united states, where it is illegal to kill someone just because she doesn't want to be married to you anymore. and if you do choose to kill someone in the united states because she doesn't want to be married to you anymore, you should be punished as any other murderer would. the part of your culture that enriches america, please bring it. but the parts that we consider unlawful, inhuman, or immoral, check it at the door. we have enough of our own home-grown crazies and hotheaded wackos to deal with.
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02-18-2009, 03:07 PM
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What's ironic is that the police had served him an order of protection, and his his wife had just filed for divorce. They have 2 small children. This has to rank close to the top of the list as the most selfish act.
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02-18-2009, 03:53 PM
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Join Date: Apr 2002
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I don't think it's ironic, I think that's why he did it. And I agree, incredibly selfish.
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02-18-2009, 03:58 PM
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Statisically, abused women are more likely to be killed by their husbands after they get an RO.
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02-18-2009, 05:38 PM
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Join Date: Mar 2008
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Beheading? He beheaded her? The last thing I want to do is sound flip about a murder, but good grief, why a beheading? Murder is bad enough, but this is unthinkable.
Or, apparently not.
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02-18-2009, 05:42 PM
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That's the preferred method of honor killings, I think.
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02-18-2009, 06:13 PM
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Join Date: Jul 2008
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Honor killings are one of those things that can give us a real wake-up call. Globally, women still have a LONG way to go.
We take so much for granted, those of us who are lucky enough to assume that such things can't possibly happen.
Not that a lot of awful, violent, woman-hating (*&^ doesn't happen in every culture.
*sigh*
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02-19-2009, 08:44 AM
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Join Date: Mar 2008
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I'm hung up on the word "honor" here.........that another person's freedom affects his honor.
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02-19-2009, 11:42 AM
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Join Date: May 2006
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He's only been charged with 2nd degree murder.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honor_killing
There are some chilling, chilling accounts of these murders in Wikepedia. It's almost unbelievable. This spans class, education, and economic levels. The most chilling are the ones where the mother helped. And one where it was done in view of 2 and 4 year old siblings.
Examples like this are to me, classic definitions of evil. It has to be stopped:
Last edited by Suburbanbushbabe; 02-19-2009 at 11:53 AM.
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02-19-2009, 12:47 PM
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I read once where it was done to a 4yo. The father found it she might not be his.
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02-19-2009, 01:17 PM
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Join Date: Feb 2006
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WOW. It sound like they're really working the "domestic abuse" angle- are they trying to say it was a crime of passion? Would that be 2nd degree murder? Of course frankly I really don't see why it should make a difference in the charges... what a great loophole for men who kill their wives while enraged.
Jesus, I can't get over the fact that he beheaded her...
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02-19-2009, 02:06 PM
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I bet she was beheaded to make sure she was good and dead. Any other way she could survive or be revived.
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02-19-2009, 02:21 PM
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http://www.buffalonews.com/cityregion/story/583859.html
The link also says:
Obvious attempt to insinuate his innocence.
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"HIV is a complex mother. Trust me I've written multiple papers and even a rap song about it." Murrcat aka Turtles
"Hope the Mail are saving space tomorrow for Samantha Brick's reaction piece on the reactions to her piece about the reactions to her piece." ~ Tweet reposted by Rou.
http://www.youtube.com/user/Kimshi4242
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02-19-2009, 02:31 PM
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Join Date: Jul 2008
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__________________
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I am the new Black.
"HIV is a complex mother. Trust me I've written multiple papers and even a rap song about it." Murrcat aka Turtles
"Hope the Mail are saving space tomorrow for Samantha Brick's reaction piece on the reactions to her piece about the reactions to her piece." ~ Tweet reposted by Rou.
http://www.youtube.com/user/Kimshi4242
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02-19-2009, 05:42 PM
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Join Date: May 2006
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It takes an especially sharp and durable kind of weapon to behead someone (like a machete). He couldn't just grab the butcher knife from the kitchen. So I'm pretty sure he planned it. But I guess beheading a woman isn't a particularly special circumstance.
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02-19-2009, 07:06 PM
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Join Date: Aug 2006
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Does NY have the death penalty? Whether or not he charged with 1st or 2nd or 12th degree, as long as he gets the needle it doesn't matter.
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