Rhianna and Chris Brown dating again

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You would think that when a guy beats the hell out of you it would be an eye-opening experience. I know how she feels, but it is surprising (to me anyways) how someone so accomplished and loved feels like she needs someone that is abusing her.
I think that the media on this and celeb reactions being things like, "it's their business", and "people make mistakes" justified his actions IN HER MIND, when she is the abused one and is already, in a way, brainwashed by him and looking for ways to justify what he did to her.

Sorry for ranting but I just came off of the "say anything" thread...
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I feel so bad for her. Her bruises can't possibly be healed, and she is back with the person who did it.
He will beat her again and again and again. Eventually something in her mind will click and he won't be able to sweet talk her into coming back. I just hope it doesn't take her too long to leave him.


I think that the media on this and celeb reactions being things like, "it's their business", and "people make mistakes" justified his actions IN HER MIND, when she is the abused one and is already, in a way, brainwashed by him and looking for ways to justify what he did to her.

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They say that the average woman dealing with DV goes back to her attacker about 7 times before she leaves him for good. Who knows what number this time will be for her, I just hope that she doesn't get seriously injured or killed before she finally decides that she has had enough.

I have to admit that this case is not so easy for me to comprehend. Part of me is like who is Chris Brown that he could make you forgive & forget so easily? This woman is beautiful, famous, and makes a good deal of money. I feel like she could have 10 Chris Brown's at her beck and call if she wanted. Heck, I'd feel like that if I were in her situation now, and I'm just average ol' Curlycurlies.

It makes me wonder a little about her home life, esp. since hearing/reading the lukewarm statements that her dad has made.
I'm not surprised. Actually, I'm surprised that it took this long for them to get back together.

I hope that you all are wrong. I hope that he never hits any woman ever again. I hope that Chris Brown gets the help he needs to deal with the abuse he watched his mother recieve so that he doesn't continue down the path to being an abuser. And I hope that eventually, this will be something that they BOTH can put behind them and they can move on with thier lives....together or apart.
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she loves him and they are very young so i'm not surprised. i feel sorry for her and him. i wish this never happened. i hope they both get counseling (separately). i hope they both emerge from this stronger and better.

sorry if i missed this but is rhianna's mother still alive? i've never heard mention of her before or through this but her dad has been quoted. just curious. i know cb turned to his mother immediately.
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Stupid girl.
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she must not think she's the sht.
first of all, didn't he cheat on her?
wasn't that the cause of this whole matter?
so he's been fooling around behind her back plus he beat her for confronting him about it?
yet, she goes back to him?
they're at diddy's house?
what does this say about diddy?
what does this say about jayz?
what does this say about the entire hip hop community?
it says:
black women ain't sht. the only thing of value to black men is their pleasure and money.

as for her family? i have no respect for them.
i've heard pamela anderson's friends and family speak out against tommy lee when they were having troubles.
and correct me if i'm wrong, but pam and tommy were married.
chris brown is a big NOBODY in my book.
she could have anyone else.

damn, has she no pride or dignity??
i wouldn't go back to him even if inwardly i wanted to just to save face.
eww...
she must not think she's the sht.
first of all, didn't he cheat on her?
wasn't that the cause of this whole matter?
so he's been fooling around behind her back plus he beat her for confronting him about it?
yet, she goes back to him?
they're at diddy's house?
what does this say about diddy?
what does this say about jayz?
what does this say about the entire hip hop community?
it says:
black women ain't sht. the only thing of value to black men is their pleasure and money.
Originally Posted by frau
Thank you. I thought I was the only one who had questions.



as for her family? i have no respect for them.
i've heard pamela anderson's friends and family speak out against tommy lee when they were having troubles.
and correct me if i'm wrong, but pam and tommy were married.
Originally Posted by frau
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she must not think she's the sht.
first of all, didn't he cheat on her?
wasn't that the cause of this whole matter?
so he's been fooling around behind her back plus he beat her for confronting him about it?
yet, she goes back to him?
they're at diddy's house?
what does this say about diddy?
what does this say about jayz?
what does this say about the entire hip hop community?
it says:
black women ain't sht. the only thing of value to black men is their pleasure and money.

as for her family? i have no respect for them.
i've heard pamela anderson's friends and family speak out against tommy lee when they were having troubles.
and correct me if i'm wrong, but pam and tommy were married.
chris brown is a big NOBODY in my book.
she could have anyone else.

damn, has she no pride or dignity??
i wouldn't go back to him even if inwardly i wanted to just to save face.
eww...
Originally Posted by frau
I think if you send your 16, 17 year old daughter abroad to become a star your priorities are likely somewhat different than other parents (NC police... is that judgmental, LOL?) Rihanna's dad was also a known drug user/seller in Barbados for years and not a part of her life so I'm not sure how effective he's been as a father.

I don't know that this is an indictment of the hip hop community as much as it is a general sad state of affairs for Black women in general. Hip hop is only reflecting what music execs want people to think and I think Black women were vulnerable long before hip hop. But it's sure not helping right now.

There are so many Black female celebrities who have been through bad treatment by trifling men, as I said on the other thread (Halle, Whitney, Tina Turner....) Yes, I know there are women of all colours who are abused and domestic violence is a problem for everyone, but I think in the Black community Black women are more likely to end up with trifling/abusive men because of the whole perceived dynamics of a shortage of Black men, Black women generally not being desirable to men of other races as much as are other women, etc.

I agree - they're young, married, no children - why not call it a day and try to work on their issues? And as for Diddy letting them stay in his house - again, call me judgmental if you want, but why would you as a person in your 40s be encouraging ANY 19, 20, 21 year olds who are unmarried with no kids to live together anywhere for any reason, even if there wasn't an allegation of abuse? I don't hear that any music industry moguls have offered them counselling or an intervention or a safe house.
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I just don't get it WHY!? WHY! WHY! I know some women go back because they are afraid or can't manage financially. Isn't she getting counseling? No counselor in their right mind would tell her this is OK!!
Something about the tone of these posts just doesn't sit well with me. I mean calling the girl "stupid"?!?!? She's been the victim of abuse...and we all know that victims of abuse tend to go back many times before they finally leave. I don't know how many of you actually have known people that have been abused, but coming out and condeming the person usually is counter productive and actually alienates them from the people that could help them leave thier abuser.

I can't judge Diddy's actions because I don't know the behind the scenes stuff that's going on. Both Chris and Rihanna have much more money than the average 19 and 21 year old. They could have just went to some hotel and had it slashed across the front page that they were together complete with pictures. Maybe Diddy is trying to shield them from that...because right now, its "rumored" they are together. And since no one knows the behind the scenes stuff...how do we not know that Jay-z or any other hip hop folks have not provided council them in private (sepertely or together)? As a matter of fact, several hip hop artists have come out and stated publicly that what CB did was wrong.

At this point, I don't know what speaking out publicly about this will do....espically since she may have gone back to him. She may view an attack on him and the situation as an attack on HER....which may serve to push her closer to him and away from people who care about her. If people are speaking with her privately, then I hope they continue so that she (and CB) can get the help they both need. IMO, thier relationship has never been "healthy" from the beginning.
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Something about the tone of these posts just doesn't sit well with me. I mean calling the girl "stupid"?!?!? She's been the victim of abuse...and we all know that victims of abuse tend to go back many times before they finally leave. I don't know how many of you actually have known people that have been abused, but coming out and condeming the person usually is counter productive and actually alienates them from the people that could help them leave thier abuser.
Originally Posted by Nappy_curly_crown
I have been in an abusive relationship, he dumped me then begged for me back. I did go back to him, ended up being abused again and have had emotional and trust issues ever since. It was was stupid of me to put up with that crap and go back for more. My previous post stands.
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Something about the tone of these posts just doesn't sit well with me. I mean calling the girl "stupid"?!?!? She's been the victim of abuse...and we all know that victims of abuse tend to go back many times before they finally leave. I don't know how many of you actually have known people that have been abused, but coming out and condeming the person usually is counter productive and actually alienates them from the people that could help them leave thier abuser.
Originally Posted by Nappy_curly_crown
I have been in an abusive relationship, he dumped me then begged for me back. I did go back to him, ended up being abused again and have had emotional and trust issues ever since. It was was stupid of me to put up with that crap and go back for more. My previous post stands.
Originally Posted by curlylaura
I wasn't making my comment to make u "take back what u said". I'm sorry that you were in an abusive relationship, but i am glad that you made it out so that you can put all this behind you. hopefully, you can get the some help with your trust issues. However, I wonder that if people had called u stipud and belittled you in public while u were with this guy, would that have been in anyway benificial? I doubt it.
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Something about the tone of these posts just doesn't sit well with me. I mean calling the girl "stupid"?!?!? She's been the victim of abuse...and we all know that victims of abuse tend to go back many times before they finally leave. I don't know how many of you actually have known people that have been abused, but coming out and condeming the person usually is counter productive and actually alienates them from the people that could help them leave thier abuser.
Originally Posted by Nappy_curly_crown
I have been in an abusive relationship, he dumped me then begged for me back. I did go back to him, ended up being abused again and have had emotional and trust issues ever since. It was was stupid of me to put up with that crap and go back for more. My previous post stands.
Originally Posted by curlylaura
I wasn't making my comment to make u "take back what u said". I'm sorry that you were in an abusive relationship, but i am glad that you made it out so that you can put all this behind you. hopefully, you can get the some help with your trust issues. However, I wonder that if people had called u stipud and belittled you in public while u were with this guy, would that have been in anyway benificial? I doubt it.
Originally Posted by Nappy_curly_crown
I was just explaining why I think she's being stupid going back to him using my experience. I don't think abusive people ever change no matter how much they say they have. But if she has to go back to learn a life's lesson then so be it (that's what I stupidly did) I just hope she has a good support network.
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nappy_curly_crown,
we want her to be strong. if not for herself, but for the example she is setting for others. we want the people around her to be strong for her even though she may want him back and want to forgive him. i know that there is love there and you just can't squash that in an instant, but there are some things that have to take priority over your feelings: your safety.
he did not marry this woman. she owes him nothing. HE WAS CHEATING ON HER. those are 2 significant reasons why she should pay it dust and keep it movin' (<not sure what that means but it sounds cool when gay men say it and i think it applies).

as for diddy. remember when he tried to hit laurie ann gibson with a chair on making the band WITH THE MTV CAMERAS ROLLING?
In the complaint filed with Manhattan cops May 11, Gibson said she got into a heated argument with Diddy and celebrity judge Michael Bivins during the April 25 filming of the MTv Shows at a branch of New York Sports Club in Greenwich Village.
Gibson said the two men started yelling and cursing at her when she told them the dancers had been given only a day to practice in order to see what they would do in a crunch.
Bivins then allegedly grabbed her while Diddy picked up a chair and threatened her. She said she broke free, tried to run and Bivins allegedly grabbed her once again. Then she left, the complaint stated.
Sources said Diddy fired her during the angry exhange - and at one point yelled for the MTV cameras to be shut off.
for the life of me, where are all the women who have been abused in the hip hop community?? why aren't they speaking out??

no, she's not stupid, but the adults around her with experience are.

(wth? it's snowing like crazy here)
This makes me sad. I wish she just stayed far away from him.

It makes my heart hurt to think of the jail time I would be doing if some man EVER laid a finger on one of my daughters...
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