To the person who PMed me today...

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I think it's interesting that her other post like this one (what, like 8 months ago?) got a VERY different overall reaction.

Could be this one is just getting more negative feedback because its' the second time the OP has posted it, but I still find it interesting how much general opinion changed, from "you go girl"/good spirits to condemnation for essentially the exact same thing.
Originally Posted by MimsTX

Maybe because the second time around seems to be asking for attention to the situation? That's the first thing that came to MY mind. Especially since there are other ways to handle it.
I think it's interesting that her other post like this one (what, like 8 months ago?) got a VERY different overall reaction.

Could be this one is just getting more negative feedback because its' the second time the OP has posted it, but I still find it interesting how much general opinion changed, from "you go girl"/good spirits to condemnation for essentially the exact same thing.
Originally Posted by MimsTX


Maybe because the second time around seems to be asking for attention to the situation? That's the first thing that came to MY mind. Especially since there are other ways to handle it.
Originally Posted by Meghuney
Yeah, like I said, that could very possibly be the situation. I can kind of understand that.

It just really struck me how different the reaction is. Night and day. Personally, I don't see the point in posting it up like this, but I don't think HC deserves some of the scathing comments she's received as a result. *shrug*
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Oh come on. Honeycurls isn't logged on, so she can't defend herself. I neither know nor care what her motivations were in posting this thread.
Originally Posted by Eilonwy
Is this like a new rule from the board police?

I will be sure to check the "who is online" list before I post.

Sheesh.
Originally Posted by M2LR

This made me laugh so hard!!!!!!!

i need a copy of that rule book...
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Can we block PMs from people?

If not, why not just them one saying what you said on here, it's obvious that they'd read it. Or, you could have just ignored it and moved on?

I understand that if it's harrassment, you'd want mods to know, but I am not understanding why you'd bring it up here for all to see.

Not being snarky, just curious.
Originally Posted by M2LR
You mean nosey- I know I am!
Originally Posted by Spider
LOL! I love it! Spider...the only one to tell it like it is!! I appreciate your honesty, Spider!

To the NC.com self-appointed ethics police...luckily I couldn't care less what you think. Your collective assessment of my motives is of no interest to me. RCW...you have GOT to be kidding me!!! GTFOH! Pot? Meet Kettle. Inflammatory? You wrote the handbook on that.

This person did something inexcusable and used the board to wrongly publicly (and via PM) inflame some very raw emotions at my expense once upon a time. This is something I will never forget, nor will I ever forgive. I actually lost sleep over it. At that time, I did seek Gretchen's assistance in dealing with the situation, which she quickly diffused, and I was able to debunk the ridiculous allegations of the PMer. If I wanted to be truly inflammatory, I would have told THAT whole story here, complete with names.

The quickest way to douse these thread fires is to remove the fuel. With each "ITA with so and so" posting, this thread is bumped right back up to the top of the page. So, it's difficult for me to believe that it's that distasteful. Spider nailed it. I'm sure the PMer will inevitably satisfy some of your curiosities by looking to some of you for support, thereby revealing the identity. Be patient.

Oh, and BTW...good one nynaeve77. Yet another RCW Pot-meet-Kettle moment. Love it!!
Originally Posted by Honeycurls
Sorry honeycurls... I am guilty of having bumped this because I though the "board police" comment was hilarious... and I think your comments above are pretty funny too! Gotta love a woman with guts who's not afraid to tell it like it is. You do what you gotta do...
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I recall it and what HC did was not "inexcusable." It may have been before you, MBFT.
Originally Posted by Phoenix
Inexcusable or not, I'm now dying to know what it was!!
"And politically correct is the worst term, not just because it’s dismissive, but because it narrows down the whole social justice spectrum to this idea that it’s about being polite instead of about dismantling the oppressive social structure of power.
Fun Fact: When you actively avoid being “PC,” you’re not being forward-thinking or unique. You’re buying into systems of oppression that have existed since before you were even born, and you’re keeping those systems in place."
Stolen.
Oh come on. Honeycurls isn't logged on, so she can't defend herself. I neither know nor care what her motivations were in posting this thread.
Originally Posted by Eilonwy
Is this like a new rule from the board police?

I will be sure to check the "who is online" list before I post.
Originally Posted by M2LR
I think you're blowing what I said out of proportion. I just thought it was a particularly trivial reason for people to gang up on a poster, and ganging up on a poster really only works if that poster is offline. I did not make any suggestions or demands regarding others' behavior, so I don't know where the "board police" thing comes from.

Lots of people here are criticizing what the OP wrote. Why can't I state my mild annoyance with what they wrote? And you may (or possibly may not) remember that I have a reason to sympathize with people experiencing PM craziness.
Originally Posted by Eilonwy

Nope, not necessarily - people have been ganged up on many times when they are on line as well.
I think your remark came off as policing the board because of the "oh come on" which seemed dismissive and contemptuous of other peoples' opinions.
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Can we block PMs from people?
Originally Posted by M2LR
If you put someone on your Ignore list they can't send you PMs. At least, I think- that's the way it works on other boards, anyway.
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I recall it and what HC did was not "inexcusable." It may have been before you, MBFT.
Originally Posted by Phoenix
Inexcusable or not, I'm now dying to know what it was!!
Originally Posted by MichelleBFT
Tell me about it!!!
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Is this like a new rule from the board police?

I will be sure to check the "who is online" list before I post.
Originally Posted by M2LR
I think you're blowing what I said out of proportion. I just thought it was a particularly trivial reason for people to gang up on a poster, and ganging up on a poster really only works if that poster is offline. I did not make any suggestions or demands regarding others' behavior, so I don't know where the "board police" thing comes from.

Lots of people here are criticizing what the OP wrote. Why can't I state my mild annoyance with what they wrote? And you may (or possibly may not) remember that I have a reason to sympathize with people experiencing PM craziness.
Originally Posted by Eilonwy

Nope, not necessarily - people have been ganged up on many times when they are on line as well.
I think your remark came off as policing the board because of the "oh come on" which seemed dismissive and contemptuous of other peoples' opinions.
Originally Posted by Amneris

And who really says to themselves "Boy, I sure don't agree with what that person said on that thread. Let me reply and tell them I don't agree. OH WAIT! They ARE not apparently logged on. Let me wait until later...when I see that they are on to post my opposing response. That is only fair!".
Can we block PMs from people?
Originally Posted by M2LR
If you put someone on your Ignore list they can't send you PMs. At least, I think- that's the way it works on other boards, anyway.
Originally Posted by Gemini13
See, now, if putting people on ignore didn't get such a nasty rap around here, perhaps we wouldn't be having this delightful conversation.

I still vote +1 for this thread. Friggin hilarious. But then again, I'm a hater. Always have been.
"And politically correct is the worst term, not just because it’s dismissive, but because it narrows down the whole social justice spectrum to this idea that it’s about being polite instead of about dismantling the oppressive social structure of power.
Fun Fact: When you actively avoid being “PC,” you’re not being forward-thinking or unique. You’re buying into systems of oppression that have existed since before you were even born, and you’re keeping those systems in place."
Stolen.
Oh come on. Honeycurls isn't logged on, so she can't defend herself. I neither know nor care what her motivations were in posting this thread.
Originally Posted by Eilonwy
Is this like a new rule from the board police?

I will be sure to check the "who is online" list before I post.

Sheesh.
Originally Posted by M2LR
Or you can just PM Eilonwy before making any posts to make sure you get her personal approval. Of course, if she doesn't like you PM'ing her, then she will start a thread much like this one. Good times.
To Trenell, MizKerri and geeky:
I pray none of you ever has to live in a communist state.

Geeky is my hero. She's the true badass. The badass who doesn't even need to be a badass. There aren't enough O's in cool to describe her.

I think you're blowing what I said out of proportion. I just thought it was a particularly trivial reason for people to gang up on a poster, and ganging up on a poster really only works if that poster is offline. I did not make any suggestions or demands regarding others' behavior, so I don't know where the "board police" thing comes from.

Lots of people here are criticizing what the OP wrote. Why can't I state my mild annoyance with what they wrote? And you may (or possibly may not) remember that I have a reason to sympathize with people experiencing PM craziness.
Originally Posted by Eilonwy

Nope, not necessarily - people have been ganged up on many times when they are on line as well.
I think your remark came off as policing the board because of the "oh come on" which seemed dismissive and contemptuous of other peoples' opinions.
Originally Posted by Amneris

And who really says to themselves "Boy, I sure don't agree with what that person said on that thread. Let me reply and tell them I don't agree. OH WAIT! They ARE not apparently logged on. Let me wait until later...when I see that they are on to post my opposing response. That is only fair!".
Originally Posted by Meghuney
And don't you have to scroll down to the bottom of the index page to see who is logged on... if they haven't set it to private?

Once I'm on the non-hair discussion forum I don't usually go back to that page.
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geeky (and others)...

you're defending people's right to gang up on people? a civil right, for sure
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Can we block PMs from people?
Originally Posted by M2LR
If you put someone on your Ignore list they can't send you PMs. At least, I think- that's the way it works on other boards, anyway.
Originally Posted by Gemini13
See, now, if putting people on ignore didn't get such a nasty rap around here, perhaps we wouldn't be having this delightful conversation.

I still vote +1 for this thread. Friggin hilarious. But then again, I'm a hater. Always have been.
Originally Posted by MichelleBFT
I don't think putting people on ignore gets a nasty rap... I think posting "SEE THIS IS WHY I'M GOING TO PUT YOU ON IGNORE" gets a nasty rap, and justifiably so. I am sure the people ignoring people without saying a word about it are not getting a nasty rap.
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If you put someone on your Ignore list they can't send you PMs. At least, I think- that's the way it works on other boards, anyway.
Originally Posted by Gemini13
See, now, if putting people on ignore didn't get such a nasty rap around here, perhaps we wouldn't be having this delightful conversation.

I still vote +1 for this thread. Friggin hilarious. But then again, I'm a hater. Always have been.
Originally Posted by MichelleBFT
I don't think putting people on ignore gets a nasty rap... I think posting "SEE THIS IS WHY I'M GOING TO PUT YOU ON IGNORE" gets a nasty rap, and justifiably so. I am sure the people ignoring people without saying a word about it are not getting a nasty rap.
Originally Posted by Amneris
ITA Amneris. Saying out loud "I'm putting you on ignore" is an attention seeking behavior. Whether Honeycurls meant to get attention by posting this thread, it sort of comes across that way. (I don't mean any offense by that statement.)
geeky (and others)...

you're defending people's right to gang up on people? a civil right, for sure
Originally Posted by Phoenix
Yes that is exactly what I am defending. Me and my mysterious cleek of "others".


Code:
For the sarcasm/subtext challenged:
I am mocking the notion that you have to check
whether someone is online or not before you
can respond to them. Because a negative 
response while someone is not online auto-
matically constitues ganging-up and 
harrassment
To Trenell, MizKerri and geeky:
I pray none of you ever has to live in a communist state.

Geeky is my hero. She's the true badass. The badass who doesn't even need to be a badass. There aren't enough O's in cool to describe her.
M2? Do that? P'shaw...

Oh and GREAT post, Honeycurls. You nailed it, AGAIN!
Originally Posted by Phoenix
Oh, by the way, since you are agreeing with Honeycurls here, and likely the mysterious PM'er was not online to defend herself when you posted this WHY ARE YOU GANGING UP ON HER?
To Trenell, MizKerri and geeky:
I pray none of you ever has to live in a communist state.

Geeky is my hero. She's the true badass. The badass who doesn't even need to be a badass. There aren't enough O's in cool to describe her.
"ganging up"? That is what annoys me. HOW is anybody ganging up? I have not spoken to Amneris, Geeky, Amanda or M2LR in ages. But then again..you know that crazy group of ladies. That group of Amneris, Geeky and M2LR. They are ALWAYS getting together and ganging up on people. Always agreeing and spouting their nonsense in agreement with each other. PLEASE.

If anything, we just all happen to have the same opinion.

If you put someone on your Ignore list they can't send you PMs. At least, I think- that's the way it works on other boards, anyway.
Originally Posted by Gemini13
See, now, if putting people on ignore didn't get such a nasty rap around here, perhaps we wouldn't be having this delightful conversation.

I still vote +1 for this thread. Friggin hilarious. But then again, I'm a hater. Always have been.
Originally Posted by MichelleBFT
I don't think putting people on ignore gets a nasty rap... I think posting "SEE THIS IS WHY I'M GOING TO PUT YOU ON IGNORE" gets a nasty rap, and justifiably so. I am sure the people ignoring people without saying a word about it are not getting a nasty rap.
Originally Posted by Amneris

IIRC, it was the notion of putting people on ignore at all that got that thread last year all hot and heavy. I for one am 100% in favor of putting people you don't like or who annoy you on ignore, though I wouldn't ever ever ever ever tell that person (in public, no less!!) that I was doing it. And never have. Simply admitting that I had used it ever was grounds to call me out. I don't care if people think I'm lame for using it, whatever. I just think it's interesting, is all, that the exact feature that's villianized is the one that would have saved us from this thread.
"And politically correct is the worst term, not just because it’s dismissive, but because it narrows down the whole social justice spectrum to this idea that it’s about being polite instead of about dismantling the oppressive social structure of power.
Fun Fact: When you actively avoid being “PC,” you’re not being forward-thinking or unique. You’re buying into systems of oppression that have existed since before you were even born, and you’re keeping those systems in place."
Stolen.

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