The Decline and Fall of Christian America...???

I'm glad the pendulum is swinging. I grew up Catholic and attended Catholic school my entire life. Christianity today appears to be more narrow minded and conservative than it ever was when I was growing up in the 70s. In fact, I was taught to be inclusive, rather than exclusive. Modern conservatism is completely foreign to me and it scares me when political parties and legislation equate with religious affiliations.
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I'm glad the pendulum is swinging. I grew up Catholic and attended Catholic school my entire life. Christianity today appears to be more narrow minded and conservative than it ever was when I was growing up in the 70s. In fact, I was taught to be inclusive, rather than exclusive. Modern conservatism is completely foreign to me and it scares me when political parties and legislation equate with religious affiliations.
Originally Posted by mrspoppers



It is scary! It should scare all of us. It's a violation of one of the founding tenets of our democracy.
As a Christian who believes the bible is fully true, I have a lot of doctrinal differences from a pentecostal. It's not even a matter of interpretational differences, unless one of us is being intellectually dishonest, but rather differences in light of straightforward, true to the original Greek and Hebrew passages.

In times past people have thought the "end times" might be upon them and were obviously wrong. I've been hesitant to call this era close to or the end because of that, yet a lot of factors are present together that have NEVER been before. In the end believers will be few and scattered according to the bible. Many are under the mantle of Christianity, in name but not truth, and when the going gets tough, and it will soon it seems, they'll abandon it.

I might sound like a freak for having my convictions and this sense of things, but I don't believe it's right to force that view or a related view onto another. It doesn't make me militant in any sense, but having these beliefs will and are becoming synonymous with blighting human progress, and so they'll be hated.

The following passage speaks more to the inner state of man, but what's also interesting and compelling right now is how world history is unfolding in a prophetic way. The system spoken of in the book of Revelation in the NT and prophecy in the OT was before we even had the technological and logistical foundation for it. Politics and practicality is encouraging it right now. There's a movement to build the temple in Jerusalem (G.W. signed onto it), and the impetus for more of a global order while a brokering of peace in the fashion mentioned in the middle east is nearer than it has been. If the bible is empty and void, it would just be highly coincidental these aspects of history-events and societal circumstances, unfold under a prophesied dynamic.

This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come.
For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy,
Without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good,
Traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God;

Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof.

People have been sinners since the dawn of time, but that dynamic will abound, in light of the gospel going out in the world. It's also interesting that Christ said "this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come."

and "many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many. And because iniquity shall abound, the love of many shall wax cold."

That last part (bolded above) is what seems to be going on in our element, and for the most part, globally. Having the form of being of Christ while actually effectively denying him...not outright but due to deception. Throughout the ages unsound doctrine has been proclaimed and used oppressively, and people have voluntarily connected to it too. But when the light pretty much goes out-what has bearing is false but it's not oppressed upon others (like the Church of England's rule) but just what is connected to, like the mega churches furtherance of the prosperity gospel, that describes now. That's the biblical falling away, independent of external circumstances like existing under the oppression and spread of Roman Catholic rule, but light going out over the heart of men.
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I'm all for a decline. Post? Yeah, that'd be cool and all, but I'll settle for a decline.
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The prominence of religion always swings back and forth.
The prominence of religion always swings back and forth.
Originally Posted by Eilonwy
Yeah, I can remember when it started to swing in this direction in the first place — it was about 15 years ago. I read an article that said this always happens, throughout history.

They said it would last about 15-20 years, so there you go. Now we go the other way. Then we'll come back again. Rinse. Repeat.
In times past people have thought the "end times" might be upon them and were obviously wrong. I've been hesitant to call this era close to or the end because of that, yet a lot of factors are present together that have NEVER been before. In the end believers will be few and scattered according to the bible. Many are under the mantle of Christianity, in name but not truth, and when the going gets tough, and it will soon it seems, they'll abandon it.


I've thought about this too. And I've heard the same things. But I have no way to verify most of it. I keep thinking back to catastrophies of one sort or another throughout history and wondering if people were saying the same things then, e.g., the Black plague, the Inquisition, the Holocaust, the African slave trade.
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