The Decline and Fall of Christian America...???

http://www.newsweek.com/id/192583

Discuss.
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Best thing that could happen to this country. We need to keep gods out of politics.
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I was just reading that online.
I saw this article this morning. Got to finish reading it before I can discuss.
I'm more than OK with this.

What does "Christian America" even mean?

And did it ever even really exist?
I am okay with this as well, but I think that this part of the article is good:

Let's be clear: while the percentage of Christians may be shrinking, rumors of the death of Christianity are greatly exaggerated. Being less Christian does not necessarily mean that America is post-Christian. A third of Americans say they are born again; this figure, along with the decline of politically moderate-to liberal mainline Protestants, led the ARIS authors to note that "these trends … suggest a movement towards more conservative beliefs and particularly to a more 'evangelical' outlook among Christians." With rising numbers of Hispanic immigrants bolstering the Roman Catholic Church in America, and given the popularity of Pentecostalism, a rapidly growing Christian milieu in the United States and globally, there is no doubt that the nation remains vibrantly religious—far more so, for instance, than Europe.
This paragraph is basically what I was looking for while reading the article.
Good pt
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A post-christian America?!? Sounds delightful. I hope I live to see the day.
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From Wikipedia:

Theologically, most Pentecostal denominations are aligned with Evangelicalism, in that they emphasize the reliability of the Bible and the need for the transformation of an individual's life through faith in Jesus. Pentecostals generally adhere to the doctrine of biblical inerrancy, believing that the Bible has definitive authority in matters of faith, and adopt a literalist approach to its interpretation.

I can't say this bodes well, to my way of thinking.

Last edited by ninja dog; 04-08-2009 at 12:50 PM.
From Wikipedia:

Theologically, most Pentecostal denominations are aligned with Evangelicalism, in that they emphasize the reliability of the Bible and the need for the transformation of an individual's life through faith in Jesus. Pentecostals generally adhere to the doctrine of biblical inerrancy, believing that the Bible has definitive authority in matters of faith, and adopt a literalist approach to its interpretation.

I can't say this bodes well, to my way of thinking.
Originally Posted by ninja dog

I think it bodes very well...for the end of christianity in America. As christian sects become more and more devout and entrenched in the literalness of the bible, they will lose the mainstream moderate christians. Once that happens, all that will remain are the extremists...who will become a joke (they sort of already are). The moderates would have gone on for many more generations, but it is the extremists who will make them not want to be known as christians any more.
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From Wikipedia:

Theologically, most Pentecostal denominations are aligned with Evangelicalism, in that they emphasize the reliability of the Bible and the need for the transformation of an individual's life through faith in Jesus. Pentecostals generally adhere to the doctrine of biblical inerrancy, believing that the Bible has definitive authority in matters of faith, and adopt a literalist approach to its interpretation.

I can't say this bodes well, to my way of thinking.
Originally Posted by ninja dog

I think it bodes very well...for the end of christianity in America. As christian sects become more and more devout and entrenched in the literalness of the bible, they will lose the mainstream moderate christians. Once that happens, all that will remain are the extremists...who will become a joke (they sort of already are). The moderates would have gone on for many more generations, but it is the extremists who will make them not want to be known as christians any more.
Originally Posted by RedCatWaves
Honestly, I think that's wishful thinking. Every weekend, I note the half-empty parking lot of the Episcopalian church I attend on the occasional holiday, versus the packed-to-the-gills Pentecostalist palaces occupying vast tracts of countryside.
yeah, I think the numbers of us (extremists) are increasing.
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A pox on thee, Phoenix! Get thee to a nunnery.

Just kidding. But you knew that, right?
yeah, I think the numbers of us (extremists) are increasing.
Originally Posted by Phoenix
I can't tell. My church is growing, but it's transfer growth. I think the easy believism that has become popular in the mega-churches in my area are deceptive when it comes to actual numbers.
There's no such thing as global warming. Chuck Norris was cold so he turned up the sun.
A pox on thee, Phoenix! Get thee to a nunnery.

Just kidding. But you knew that, right?
Originally Posted by ninja dog
Hee!
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Okay. I don't want to tease too hard or offend you. Your religion is YOUR business.
No, it's cool.
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I am okay with this as well, but I think that this part of the article is good:

Let's be clear: while the percentage of Christians may be shrinking, rumors of the death of Christianity are greatly exaggerated. Being less Christian does not necessarily mean that America is post-Christian. A third of Americans say they are born again; this figure, along with the decline of politically moderate-to liberal mainline Protestants, led the ARIS authors to note that "these trends … suggest a movement towards more conservative beliefs and particularly to a more 'evangelical' outlook among Christians." With rising numbers of Hispanic immigrants bolstering the Roman Catholic Church in America, and given the popularity of Pentecostalism, a rapidly growing Christian milieu in the United States and globally, there is no doubt that the nation remains vibrantly religious—far more so, for instance, than Europe.
This paragraph is basically what I was looking for while reading the article.
Originally Posted by M2LR
Well, ****. I'm nowhere near as optimistic as RCW on this. We're screwed.
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Newsweek has changed formats and become pretty stupid/inflammatory. I wouldn't take its articles too seriously. A recent cover story was, "Lincoln versus Darwin." WTF??

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