View Poll Results: How do you feel about abortion?
1. It's wrong/murder in any case 16 15.69%
2. Okay for rape/incest only 6 5.88%
3. A woman's legal right to choose 75 73.53%
4. Not sure; on the fence 5 4.90%
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How do you feel about Abortion?

Because it never has in the past. Abortion is too personal an issue with strong feelings on both sides. This is NC. no hot button topic can remain calm here, it's just the nature of the board.
Originally Posted by LisaAnn

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I'm all for abortion as long as it isn't used as a means of birth control. I think if a mistake happens, its your right to handle it...but if the mistake is made repeatedly, then you're just irresponsible and YOU should be aborted.
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Now I would disagree that it is up to the woman on an individual basis as far as where life begins... If life begins at "x" point, would that not mean terminating life after said "x" point would be murder?

I'm not saying your views are wrong, although they are obviously different from mine. I'm just saying... if it's a life, then ending it is a murder. That's just logic right? So I just assumed that most abortion supporters feel that life begins either at a certain point the pregnancy, i.e. heartbeat, movement, whatever OR at birth.

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Originally Posted by Rheanna83
I guess it's all a matter of perspective then, isn't it?
Yes, Sigi. That's my entire point... It's really not about what an abortion is, it's about whether or not it's a life. And I guess those on the fence, that's the question to decide/ask yourself.. Is it equal to a life, or is it not yet really "anything".. I don't know how to describe that?

If you belief a fetus is a life from the get-go, then you can't really find abortion to be okay, but otherwise, it's almost like a non-issue.

Does that make any sense at all?
(probably not.. lol)
Well, the way I see it is that people will have abortions or not have them based on their beliefs. Therefore, it's a case by case thing, based on individual beliefs.
I was completely pro-choice before I had my 1st son....no way could I be now
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"If you judge people,you have no time to love them"
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True Sigi.. That makes sense. But besides beliefs, what would happen if they came out and definitely proved that life began at a certain stage... Do you think that would affect anything?

I mean, you can believe that it's wrong to kill your next door neighbor, and it is. But if you don't believe it's wrong, does that mean it's okay and should be legal? Of course not, so to me the whole when life begins is important, but it can't be purely beliefs or else people could do anything and say they didn't "believe" it was wrong... so it makes it okay.

Just speculation here.. I'm not saying that is the case. I'm simply saying what if they said, no life doesn't begin until birth or yes, life begins at conception - what impact would that have? I guess it depends on what you define life as too..

It's complicated. I'm just curious as to how people feel and what makes them feel that way too?
I can't answer that question Rheanna. I will never and have never had an abortion, so it doesn't really effect me. It's an individual's choice that they will have to live with. If she believes that life begns at conception and she decides to abort, then that she will have to live with her choice. It really is just an individual's perception that will be the basis for her decision on whether or not to abort.
I can't answer that question Rheanna. I will never and have never had an abortion, so it doesn't really effect me. It's an individual's choice that they will have to live with. If she believes that life begns at conception and she decides to abort, then that she will have to live with her choice. It really is just an individual's perception that will be the basis for her decision on whether or not to abort.
Originally Posted by Sigi
Makes sense. Good points. . .
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This is a really hard question. I believe that life begins at conception. I also believe that we all make choices about having sex with/without birth control. You can't expect to have unprotected sex and not get pregnant.....that's what our bodies are meant to do. I understand some people have gotten pregnant on birthcontrol too....but a lot of people don't take it right. If you can't accept the consequences of sex (babies) then 1) you shouldn't be having it or 2) make sure you are protected/fixed. I wouldn't consider having an abortion, but I wouldn't hold it against anyone who chose to. It is YOUR body...and your choice.....so maybe for me I'm prolife, but for everyone else prochoice? I think it IS ridiculous that some women use abortion as a form of birthcontrol.

When it comes to rape/incest I'm on the fence. I don't think I could carry a child that was part mine & part someone I didn't even know.....if I did have it.....what if the child found out he/she was the result of a rape? Imagine what that would do to them..Hmm...there are so many issues I just don't know. Personally, I can just say that I couldn't have an abortion because I wouldn't be able to sleep at night. I've never really taken the time to THINK about abortion. I guess that's why my thoughts are all jumbled.
Everybody on here knows I am completely pro-life, from conception until natural death. Nobody can tell me that this baby kicking the crap out of me all the time isn't alive!
I think it's a woman's personal choice, but I don't like the idea of abortion as birth control. Rape, incest, medical necessity... is understandable. I wish it didn't have to happen at all though, but respect the right/choice for each circumstance.
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No abortion for me. Couldn't do it. see below.

Of course in my unplanned preggy situ, I was 1. 31 years old 2. Stable job 3. loving BF now DH. (who knows How I would have handled it)

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I'm pro-choice. Now that I've had a child I don't think I could ever have one myself, but I will not make that decision for others, since I've never walked in their shoes. I think the decision is between a woman, her conscience, her god (if she beleives in any), her doctor (if there are medical issues) and her partner (unless said partner is an asswipe, an abuser, etc). People like me, her neighbors and the government have no business interfering.
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I'm pro-choice. Now that I've had a child I don't think I could ever have one myself, but I will not make that decision for others, since I've never walked in their shoes. I think the decision is between a woman, her conscience, her god (if she beleives in any), her doctor (if there are medical issues) and her partner (unless said partner is an asswipe, an abuser, etc). People like me, her neighbors and the government have no business interfering.
Originally Posted by geeky
I couldn't agree more with anything you posted. I couldn't do it and I think it's wrong, however - I can't make a decision and SHOULDN'T make a decision for anyone else.
I'm actually more pro-choice now that I'm a parent, than before. Having a child isn't something to take lightly. I'd rather someone KNOW they don't want to parent and have an abortion than have a child they didn't want and regret. I love my son more than anything in the world, but I never wanted children. I was guilted into keeping him. I don't regret him, and I actually look forward to having another child, but I DID NOT want to have a child when I got pregnant.

I am 100% pro-choice for any reason.
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I'm pro-life. Now that being said I would never hold it against a person who had decided to have an abortion. I'm sure they don't need someone esle standing there calling them a baby killer and so I won't ever do that. I'm not one of those stand outside the clinic and yell at the women going in. But at the same time I have to say that I think there are other choices out there for unwanted pregnancies. I am a firm supporter of adoption. You know I've said before that one of my husband's very good friends was a baby concieved during a rape and his bio mom decided to give him up for adoption rather than abort him and I think that was a very brave thing to do. I just think there are so many families out there who can have kids and want to adopt that I feel adoption is the best choice.

As far as when does life begin I believe it begins at conception. Other wise wouldn't the deffintion of a fetus be a paricite (sp) and I don't think I could bond with a paricite (sp again) like I did with my baby while I was pregnant.
As far as when does life begin I believe it begins at conception. Other wise wouldn't the deffintion of a fetus be a paricite (sp) and I don't think I could bond with a paricite (sp again) like I did with my baby while I was pregnant.
Originally Posted by picklesgirl
First of all, a parasite is always a living creature, by definition. So if life begins at conception, that would not preclude the embryo from being a parasite.

Second, according to the Dictiobnary.com definition of parasite (see below), an embryo or fetus does certainly fit the bill. There can be emotional benefits and it benefits the survival of the species, but being pregnant does not help you as an individual organism.

par·a·site (păr'ə-sīt')
n.

1. Biology. An organism that grows, feeds, and is sheltered on or in a different organism while contributing nothing to the survival of its host.
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I couldn't do it and I wish others wouldn't do it. I'm not going to stalk anyone outside of an abortion clinic to dissuade them, but when it's time to vote, I will vote my conscience. Why shouldn't I? Because others don't agree? Because others believe differently? That's *why* we vote -- to attempt to impose our beliefs on others. No different than any other issue.
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